What are Hillary’s major, signature accomplishments in her public life?

[Jarqui]

Clinton’s Achilles Heels (blog by Andrew Sullivan, Feb 2014)
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/threads/clintons-achilles-heels/

But more importantly for me is the inability of her supporters to answer a simple question. I was having dinner with a real Clinton fan the other night, and I actually stumped him (and he’s not easily stumped). What have been Hillary Clinton’s major, signature accomplishments in her long career in public life? What did she achieve in her eight years as First Lady exactly? What stamp did she put on national policy in her time as Senator from New York? What were her defining and singular achievements as secretary-of-state?

Maybe readers can answer those questions. I’m a little stumped.

The readers below this blog (at the link) attempt to answer it without much success in my opinion and apparently, in Sullivans.

Like Andrew Sullivan, I too am still a little stumped.

She's been in Washington politics longer than Tricky Dick Nixon was before he got elected president - maybe the longest in US political history. (??)

This came up again with her chameleon politics, flip-flop from
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/

"You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center," Clinton told the audience at a Women for Hillary event in Ohio. "I plead guilty."

to "I'm a progressive who gets things done.”

Let's not argue about her being a "moderate progressive", ok? Thanks.

Which got me asking myself again, like Sullivan, "what is she talking about? what things has she got done?" and I've asked that in threads and got crickets.

And I don't mean she tagged along or hopped on board when it was politically safe. I mean she took something, ran with it and achieved something notable - a "signature accomplishment".

[dsc]

1. Andrew hates Hillary with the intensity of a thousand suns

He literally said she has cooties. No really, he said that. Oh and he is a right winger who published lies to defeat her health care plan.

[SamKnause]

2. David Brock

Hillary knows all about right wingers.

[Jarqui]

3. I don't care about that stuff. Water under the bridge. I think he asked

a good question here.

I do not see that as a big crime or right wing plot. It's just a rather simple, straightforward question. And not an unreasonable question for one who seeks the highest office in the land.

And for a right wing guy. he sure seemed to like Obama for a time there ...

[Voice for Peace]

54. I have the same question and it's valid.

Also I don't think Andrew's rw.
I met him socially after I'd worked briefly n theater with his husband.

It has always puzzled me: hillary's touted experience.

[m-lekktor]

19. Everybody adored Andrew Sullivan when he gushed over President Obama though.

I agree with you about him, btw. I am NOT a fan of his even though I also hate Hillary with the intensity of a thousand suns!

[dsc]

26. I am by no means part of that everybody

[Motown_Johnny]

67. and that is your list of her major accomplishments?

Nice job.

Keep it up.

[dsc]

72. actually those have been supplied repeatedly including by me but with no fucking answer

but here is a list one more fucking time. And I had better get an answer. She paved the way for the Iran deal by getting China and Russia to agree to apply sanctions and start negotiations. She stopped several severely anti gay laws in Africa. She appointed the first person at State that dealt with world wide gay rights. She improved the lot of women world wide while first lady by publicly challenging governments on their horrible treatment of women. In the wake of 9/11 she helped get bills passed to rebuild and help first respondors.

[riversedge]

4. You need to visit her website first instead of asking others to do your work for you.

[Jarqui]

6. I have

You don't have to try to answer the question ..

[asuhornets]

5. What has

Bernie Sanders accomplished in his 25-year term in Congress?

The so-called anti-Establishment candidate.

[Jarqui]

7. start a thread on that

I had thought of that question as well

[senz]

11. Bernie Sanders is one of the best progressive legislators.

You can start here:

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

[DrDan]

24. and how many of his bills have been passed in his 25-year career?

[senz]

27. All of the above.

And that's not the entire list, either.

Bernie gets things done. Good things.

What did Hillary get done?

[DrDan]

75. all the amendments . . . how many of the bills did he introduce?

[madokie]

33. Hey bro' in case you missed this link here it is again

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you


what exactly has Hillary done that you all are so proud of?

All of the things listed at this included link I'm proud of. Hows that for a reason for the season, HUH, huh, huh

None of it had anything to do with his gender either. Hows that for effectiveness?

[DrDan]

74. no - didn't miss it - did he sponsor anything in that list? Looks like amendments

only to me . . . . bro

[left-of-center2012]

8. She stands by her man Bill.

over
and
over
and
over
again

[senz]

9. Glad someone's taking a good look at Hillary's outlandish claims.

She carpetbagged to New York and ran for senate on her family name. She was a mediocre senator with nothing to show for her time except for two disastrously bad votes.

She was handed the SOS position where, once again, she accomplished nothing except for terrible decisions and record profits for weapons manufacturers who donated huge sums to her family and their foundation.

Hillary's career: mediocrity and corruption.

[ieoeja]

48. She wasn't even handed the *full* SoS position.

Special Envoy to the Middle East was removed from the State Department to White House staff before she was sworn into office. It was moved back the day Kerry was sworn in. And I think we can all agree that the Middle East would have been the most important State Department issue.

Implies quite a bit about what Obama really thinks of her.

[karynnj]

62. Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan were removed too

With Biden getting Iraq and Holbrooke getting the other two.

[senz]

65. The DAY Kerry was sworn in? Wow. I had not known that.

One can only imagine the meetings Obama must have had with his advisers before giving Hill SOS.

I wish he could have found another way to protect himself from a 2012 primary challenge.

[procon]

10. If your thoughts are aligned with Andrew Sullivan, perhaps DU is not

the best place to dump off these rightwing talking points that are intended to bash Democrats. You claim that you're looking for a "signature accomplishment" -- and Google is your best friend -- but that's not the correct metric to measure Clinton's -- or Sanders's -- political efficacy.

It is not the role of a member of the Senate to go it alone, but to seek alliances and co sponsors who can support legislation containing many, and often divergent causes. Still, bills only advance with broad bipartisan support in both chambers... and we all know how well that's worked out in the GOP Controlled Congress.

And Secretaries of State are part the president's staff, like it or not, not independent actors with their own agenda, and the president is the one who directs all those foreign policy efforts.

[Jarqui]

20. Hillary claims she's "a progressive that gets things done"

So my question about "what has Hillary done? What are her signature achievements?" is not merely a right wing talking point (by a blogger who supported Obama)

It's a fair question to ask about someone running for the highest office in the land when they claim they're "a progressive that gets things done"

Step up to the plate and answer it if you can.

[procon]

22. And did you not find any of the innumerable lists

and citations from the countless news articles that pop up Google sufficient in depth and quantity to satisfy your thirst for knowledge?

With a wealth of so much information only a click away, here you are demanding that total strangers serve as your own personal research assistant... why is that? When you aren't even willing to go discover the answers on your own, I rather suspect that information seeking isn't your true motive.

[jeff47]

29. From such massive lists, surely you could have picked one thing. (nt)

[procon]

43. Surely your Google works the same as everyone else's, yeah? nt

[jeff47]

44. My Google is finding she renamed a post office.

And lots of claims about "started to..." and "brought awareness to..."

[procon]

46. That's excellent, Jeff.

Now that you've got that far, I have every confidence you'll find everything you didn't really want to know.

[jeff47]

71. Except there is nothing there.

Just failures and "started _____".

What did she get done?

[madokie]

34. I'm over half the way through this thread and nothing

not one person has come up with a single thing. Oh, there's been a lot of what of it's but nothing of substance
I guess it just goes to show that the Hillary hasn't done squat for us peons out here

[askew]

40. I've spent years asking this question and have never gotten a real answer.

I may get a recap of her resume (which aren't accomplishments). I am not asking what positions she has held, but what she did why she held them.

I can rattle off a list of signature accomplishments for every politician that I've seriously supported. Yet, diehard Hillary supporters can't do the same. It's weird.

[DCBob]

12. Hillary's resume

Hillary's resume.

• Graduate of Yale Law School, where she was one of just 27 women in her graduating class.
  
• Young lawyer for the Children’s Defense Fund where she worked to help enact legislation to help children with disabilities in Massachusetts.
  
• Lawyer for the Congressional Committee investigating President Nixon.
  
• First Lady of Arkansas where she worked to improve educational standards and health care access for the people of Arkansas.
  
• First Lady of United States where she worked to reform our health care system and helped create the Children's Health Insurance Program. Here is where she learned what Republicans are capable of doing when faced with a strong intelligent aggressive woman.
  
• U.S. Senator for New York, probably the most diverse, complex and important state in the country.. economically, financially, politically, and diplomatically. While Senator she worked to secure funding to rebuild New York after 9/11 and fought to provide health care for first responders who were contaminated at Ground Zero. Also helped to expanded TRICARE so that members of the Reserves and National Guard and their families could get better access to health care.
  
• Ran for President in 2008 where she learned the hard way what it takes to win.
  
• Served as Secretary of State for 4 years. She was instrumental in starting to restore America’s standing in the world. She helped build a coalition for tough new sanctions against Iran that brought them to the negotiating table and brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas that ended a war. She also was a forceful champion for human rights, internet freedom, and rights and opportunities for women and girls, LGBT people and young people all around the globe.
  

[jeff47]

15. Odd you couldn't actually answer the question in the OP. (nt)

[DCBob]

17. Yes I did.

Read again without your Bernie bias.

[jeff47]

23. No, actually you just rattled off her resume. It didn't list a singular/major achievement.

See, when you have to say "worked towards" or "started", she didn't actually get the job done.

[DCBob]

25. Yes it did.

If I had to pick her most significant accomplishment would be her role in our relationship with Iran which led to the nuclear deal. I know she didn't make the final decisions but she surely played the key role in developing and implementing the sanctions against Iran during her time as SOS which ultimately led to the nuclear agreement after she left. That will likely be President Obama's greatest legacy which will be shared by both SOS's Clinton and Kerry.

[jeff47]

28. Her role where she constantly antagonized Iran?

Creating an incredibly hostile relationship that our allies and Kerry had to repair?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/iran-hillary-clinton-hostages

Aside from your claim being pretty full of bullshit, you still couldn't come up with something she actually got done.

She's supposed to be the one with results. What did she get done?

[DCBob]

30. That's your take but that's not reality.

She gets credit for her role.. sorry if that goes against your desperate baseless biased claims.

Read this for the reality..

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-she-helped-usher-iran-negotia/

[madokie]

35. Whoa

Thats my take too Bob. What has she done?
run for the senate and won but skipped out after two years of her second term
wore two or three jet engines out as SoS running all over the globe, mostly soliciting donations to HER families foundation. sounds to me like anyway
run for the Presidency but had to drop out cause, well you know why. No one liked her but a few diehards wanting to see a woman president worse than anything
I'm looking but I can't find a single thing she's done yet. that was good for us that is

Oh well I guess its bull that she's the one who gets things done, huh
Where as Bernie now, he's done some stuff while in office. The link can be found here in this thread on a few of those things. Alternet link btw

[DCBob]

37. Sorry to hear you are afflicted with the same bias as the previous poster.

Hope you get well soon!

[jeff47]

38. That still isn't getting something done. Kerry got it done, whether or not she laid the groundwork.

The claim is Clinton gets things done. What did she actually get done?

[DCBob]

39. It is to me.. sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative.

[jeff47]

41. So...Clinton doesn't actually get things done? Why is she claiming she does? (nt)

[DCBob]

76. So you dont understand the meaning of accomplishment.

[askew]

50. Yep, the stalled Iran Deal went through after she left and Kerry took over.

He also got the Climate deal done that Hillary botched so badly in Copenhagen. Not to mention the Cuba deal.

Kerry has been the most consequential SOS in at least 25 years.

[Herman4747]

69. Yeah, & she's still hostile toward Iran!!! n/t

[askew]

51. Just like when she claims credit for Obamacare by saying it was called Hillarycare first.

Hillary doesn't get any credit for Obamacare. She failed miserably trying to pass healthcare. That's the facts. You don't get a gold star for trying in politics.

[nichomachus]

16. Job titles on a resume are meaningless

We need to see real accomplishments

"Learning the hard way how to win" is hardly an accomplishment.

What you presented her is a padded resume and one which any competent hiring manager would immediately consign to the trash.

[DCBob]

18. There are numerous accomplishments listed there.

A non-biased reader would see it.

[askew]

47. That is such a bunch of gobblygook.

Graduating from law school is not a signature issue or accomplishment. Nor is vague BS like "forceful champion for human rights".

This is a list of signature accomplishments.

Martin O'Malley - In Maryland:

- Raised Minimum wage to $10.10
- Increased Education Spending and Made Maryland Top State for Education for 5 years.
- Froze tuition at public colleges for 5 years.
- Maintained Maryland's AAA Bond Rating thru the recession.
- Enacted DREAM Act, took in more child refugees per capita than any other state, Gave Driver's Licenses to Undocumented Americans.
- Ended Death Penalty, commuted remaining death row convictions to life in prison.
- Restored Voting Rights to ex-felons.
- Created the largest wind farm on the east coast.

For Hillary, this shouldn't be that hard since she has so few signature accomplishments. Here is what I have:
- Assisted Kennedy and Hatch to Pass CHIP - Note this was their accomplishment. Hillary played a minor role in this as First Lady.
- Worked with Biden and Obama to enact Iran Sanctions.
- Brokered a temporary ceasefire in Gaza.

For someone who spent 4 years as SOS and 8 years in the Senate, that is a pretty paltry list. I could have added another 15 significant items to O'Malley's list.

The 9/11 Healthcare bill didn't pass until well after Hillary left Congress.
As for TRICARE, Hillary was one of many people who worked on that bill. It certainly wouldn't be her signature accomplishments. She got dinged by factcheckers for exaggerating her role in this back in 2007.

[Voice for Peace]

56. I'm surprised to read health care for first responders

First I've heard that about anyone except jon stewart.

[DrFunkenstein]

13. Securing $100M in Funding For The Military Junta in Honduras Following 2009 Coup

One email exchange discovered in the recently released batch of State Department communications reveals that Clinton personally signed off on continuing the flow of US funds to the putsch regime in Honduras in the fall of 2009 — even as the White House was telling the world that such aid had been suspended.

That White House-invoked aid suspension, which was supposed to apply to all programs implicated under Section 7008, should also have included any funds being provided to Honduras through a US-backed aid agency known as the Millennium Challenge Corporation. MCC is funded by taxpayers and overseen by a board that is chaired by the Secretary of State. But despite the White House policy on aid suspension to Honduras, the MCC continued to send millions of dollars monthly to the putsch regime in Honduras.

In fact, a Narco News investigation at the time showed the MCC delivered $10.7 million to Honduras in the two months following the June 28 coup and had another $100 million or so in contractually committed funds in the pipeline to be delivered in 2010. As chair of the MCC, Clinton should have been well aware of this flow of dollars to a regime deemed illegitimate by her boss, President Obama, but proof of that direct knowledge could not be verified previously.

The State Department email trail recently made public, however, shows for the first time that Clinton did know that MCC funding was continuing to pour into Honduras — even as publicly the White House, as well as the State Department, were telling the nation that such US aid had been suspended.

..

If Clinton listed Honduras as a prohibited country in terms of Section 7008, the balance of the $100 million in MCC funds slated for the Honduran regime would be suspended. If not, the aid would continue to flow.

As important, the wording of the email from the State Department legal advisor makes clear that the MCC funding did fall into the category of US aid that would be suspended under a Section 7008 trigger event, such as a “military coup.” And the Obama administration’s position at the time was to suspend immediately all aid to Honduras that is subject to Section 7008, whether it was officially triggered or not.

Regardless, Clinton did not act to prohibit Honduras from receiving the MCC funding. A copy of the Sept. 16, 2009, Federal Register shows the report the MCC board sent to Congress includes Honduras as a nation still eligible to receive assistance.

And so, over the balance of 2009 and through most of 2010, MCC funds continued to flow into the coffers of the Honduran coup regime and its successor government, which was empowered by the suspect November 2009 elections and embraced by pro-putsch lobbyist Lanny Davis and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2015/07/emails-show-secretary-clinton-disobeyed-obama-policy-and-continued-fund

No wonder Henry Kissinger is such a Clinton fan.

[elias49]

60. Reminds me of Reagan's Arms for hostages deal

from the 80s.
Once again, Hillary lags the 21st century.

[jeff47]

14. She renamed a post office. (nt)

[GoneOffShore]

21. Making lots of money from Goldman-Sachs speaking fees?

[Bad Thoughts]

31. Making more talented women "wait their turn?" eom.

[frylock]

32. kick

[awake]

36. over 35 posts and yet I have not seen one accomplishment

lots of things that others accomplished that she takes credit for "starting"but nothing great that can be pointed to that she completed.

[Cheese Sandwich]

42. Getting rich off "public service"

[99Forever]

45. Kicking

[kath]

49. 4 hours, 30+ posts, and still......

Nothing.

[DrFunkenstein]

52. Using 9/11 To Justify Unrelated Iraq Invasion AND Wall Street Donations?

SANDERS: Well, why do they make millions of dollars of campaign contributions? They expect to get something. Everybody knows that.

CLINTON: Oh, wait a minute, senator. You know, not only do I have hundreds of thousands of donors -- most of them small. And I'm very proud that for the first time a majority of my donors are women, 60 percent. So I represented New York, and I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked. Where were we attacked? We were attacked in downtown Manhattan where Wall Street is. I did spend a whole lot of time and effort helping them rebuild. That was good for New York. It was good for the economy, and it was a way to rebuke the terrorists who had attacked our country.

---

Before entrusting Bush with authority to invade Iraq:

"I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year's terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am."

[Maedhros]

53. Well she did help engineer the destruction of Libya, which helped destabilize North Africa

and spread violence into Mali and Birkina Faso. She even gloated about it on national TV in her own "Mission Accomplished!" moment.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

55. Direct from the source

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/seven-hillary-clintons-biggest-accomplishments/

This is the biggest, best 7 accomplishments they could name. Most of them are of the vague, "helped to...", "fought for...", and so on.

One of them, laughably, is "Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad."

[Jarqui]

58. "2. Helped provide millions of children with health care"

Children’s Health Insurance Program. CHIP
Clinton role in health program disputed
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/14/clinton_role_in_health_program_disputed/?page=full

But the Clinton White House, while supportive of the idea of expanding children's health, fought the first SCHIP effort, spearheaded by Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, because of fears that it would derail a bigger budget bill. And several current and former lawmakers and staff said Hillary Clinton had no role in helping to write the congressional legislation, which grew out of a similar program approved in Massachusetts in 1996.

"The White House wasn't for it. We really roughed them up" in trying to get it approved over the Clinton administration's objections, Hatch said in an interview. "She may have done some advocacy [privately] over at the White House, but I'm not aware of it."

"I do like her," Hatch said of Hillary Clinton. "We all care about children. But does she deserve credit for SCHIP? No - Teddy does, but she doesn't."
....
Asked whether Clinton was exaggerating her role in creating SCHIP, Kennedy, stopped in the hallway as he was entering the chamber to vote, half-shrugged.

"Facts are stubborn things," he said, declining to criticize Clinton directly. "I think we ought to stay with the facts."
...
But privately, some lawmakers and staff members are fuming over what they see as Clinton's exaggeration of her role in developing SCHIP, including her campaign ads claiming she "helped create" the program. The irritation has grown since Nov. 1, when Clinton - along with fellow senators and presidential candidates Barack Obama, Chris Dodd, and John McCain - missed a Senate vote to extend the SCHIP program, which was approved without the votes of those lawmakers.

In fairness, she did help some but from the above, she wasn't the driving force or critical piece.

[Jarqui]

59. "7. Negotiated a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas."

Mideast crisis strains Clinton legacy
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/hillary-clinton-legacy-mideast-biggest-accomplishment-108924

"The truce Clinton helped forge has fallen apart less than two years later"
"The developments over the past several days underscore the challenge Clinton faces should she try to use her State Department record as a plank on which to run for president."

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

64. That last quote made me chuckle a bit

[Jarqui]

61. "6. Helped expand health care and family leave for military families."

DU discussed that here:

Hillary Clinton's Resume Padding re: The Family and Medical Leave Act
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4999875

Again, it's not false. She got on board and co-sponsored but didn't really lead the charge.

[Jarqui]

66. "5. Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad."

DOMA, came out against gay marriage slow to flip-flop on that

[Jarqui]

68. "1. Fought for children and families for 40 years and counting."

TWO CLINTON AIDES RESIGN TO PROTEST NEW WELFARE LAW
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/12/us/two-clinton-aides-resign-to-protest-new-welfare-law.html

Hillary Clinton often boasts about helping children, but she betrayed them as First Lady
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/

... passing the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (PRWORA). PRWORA was based on legislation first proposed by Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. The act was opposed by the left-wing of the Democratic Party, but the Clinton administration joined hands with Republicans and conservative Democrats to push it through.

As part of PRWORA, the Clinton administration axed the Aid to Families with Dependent Children federal assistance program, which had been created 61 years before by the Social Security Act, in the New Deal. They replaced it with the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, which was drastically weaker and — as the name stresses — temporary.

Hillary, as First Lady, advocated strongly for the restructuring of welfare. Her former co-workers at CDF, on the other hand, were infuriated. CDF founder and President Marian Wright Edelman declared that President Clinton’s “signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children.”

“Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics,” the CDF president told Democracy Now in a 2007 interview. At the time, CDF “profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so,” Marian Wright Edelman explained.

The Worst Thing Bill Clinton Has Done
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1997/03/the-worst-thing-bill-clinton-has-done/376797/

Has she helped children? Yes

But she's hurt them too. So this claim doesn't exactly leave one puffing their chest out with pride. There's a mixed history

[Jarqui]

70. The last two:

"3. Helped get 9/11 first responders the health care they needed."

Where was Hillary when Jon Stewart needed help?

Short lived help.

"4. Told the world that “women’s rights are human rights.”"

Speech in Beijing. That might be her greatest achievement so far.

I'd seen the list. I thought it was weak for one claiming "I am progressive who gets things done".

I think it would be more accurately stated :

"I'm a moderate who pretends to be progressive to get votes and I like to help others who have the initiative to get something done so I can take more credit than I deserve for their work."

Maybe that's her signature achievement.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

73. You should post all of these as an OP

[Ino]

57. Oh, oh... I know!

She visited more countries than any other Sec of State!

And she visited them for just that reason... bragging rights (on our dime)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/11/30/clinton-staff-urged-her-visit-more-countries-secretary-state/zKuFUSEHQRj9QbYEa1r8hL/story.html

Seven months before Clinton left office, a top aide suggested to her that she still had “plenty of time” to “run up the score on total countries” and set a globe-trotting goal of 110 countries, according to an e-mail released Monday.

The e-mail, sent by Clinton press aide Philippe Reines three years ago, casts a political light on one of Clinton’s core talking points as a candidate for president: that she was a nonpolitical and hard-working secretary of state, who, as she frequently notes, visited 112 countries.
(snip)
The subject line for the e-mail is: “100 and counting . . .”; Reines included a list of 94 countries that Clinton hadn’t yet visited for her to “choose from,” as he put it. Some of the countries had asterisks by them.

“Asterisks appear next to countries you visited prior to becoming SecState, but not since — so they would count,” Reines wrote.

[AtomicKitten]

63. Cashing checks from Wall Street.