2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Not Truthful About Wall Street Speaking Fees
Anderson Cooper: "But did you have to be paid $675,000 [for three speeches to Goldman Sachs]?"
Hillary Clinton: "Well, I don't know. That's what they offered."
Hillary is veering from the truth when she suggests her $225,000 per speech fee, paid three times by Goldman Sachs, was "what they offered."
It was not what they offered -- it was what Team Hillary demanded.
A review of her 2014 tax return posted on her website shows that $225,000 was her minimum fee.
She received $225,000 for 34 of the 41 speeches listed on her tax return. Of the remaining 7 speeches, two were for 250,000 and the others for $265,000, $275,000, $285,000, $305,000 and $400,000. In total she received $9,680,000 for these speaking engagements in 2013.
Wall Street firms funded 14 of her 41 talks. In addition to Goldman Sachs, the list includes Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, Fidelity Investments UBS and Bank of America. Her benefactors also include hedge funds and private equity firms like Apollo Management and Kohlberg, Kravis, Roberts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/hillary-not-truthful-abou_b_9185412.html
merrily
(45,251 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I will freely admit I get a level of satisfaction watching Bill feeling he
needs to attack Bernie.
So many blew off Bernie, looks like that has changed.
He said the dumbest thing today, paraphrasing...No one who took money
from Goldman-Sachs should be president. He said it like that is the
most ridiculous standard EVER.
I just laughed and laughed..unfucking believable.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Response to Punkingal (Reply #12)
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Dress and all!!
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Well, I never worshipped but at the time thought that Wild Willie, Hill, Al and Tipper were pretty darned cool...after the previous Reigns of Terror.
But...then I learned and the more I learned about him and her...yuk!
cali
(114,904 posts)He's disgusted me for over 20 years.
appalachiablue
(41,132 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Its not just a problem of honesty.
Its a problem of hoggish greed and corruption at the very heart of a candidate.
$29,512 PER HOUR.
That is what she was paid...
That is not what a person who is promising change to the status quo receives. I guarantee that.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)It was only until patriots like Howard Dean convinced her reluctant self to come help save the Republic did she throw in her hat.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They have a tendency to be pathological liars, and expect people will believe them even when spouting utter bullshit that's obviously a lie.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)will often self corrupt themselves. In some ways I have to wonder if she looks
in the mirror these days and says, what is the problem here??? This is how it works!
From what I have seen she and her husband compromised themselves
long ago and they're fine with it..that doesn't necessarily require pathological
liars. Yet I get what you're saying, their behavior leaves one going in that
direction.
I want to see CU overturned and then fight for public funded elections..on
a exclusive level..this way we neutralize each side and we'll draw more
sincere people to the political circle too.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Interesting and important.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Not that we are confused about how this works with WS, but you know
what I mean.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Well done!
downeastdaniel
(497 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Why am I not surprised?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I'm shocked I tells ya shocked
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thanks, Jefferson23!
ejbr
(5,856 posts)for a fee. True, this was AFTER their time in government when they did not intend to run for a position of power that could positively affect them, but this is a minor issue that should be ignored.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Fetch my fainting couch!
I have a touch of the vapors.
Akicita
(1,196 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Not what we need in a president.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)That's what I would like her to explain and as Sanders said, who ever
admits to being bought? Uh, nobody, but why put yourself in that position.
Americans are sick of corruption.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)What the fuck color is the sky in THAT world? GREEN?
Let's give her the benefit of the doubt and ASSUME the speaking engagements were full day affairs and the equivalent to an 8 hour shift.
Hillary "worked" for 328 hours.
She "earned" $29,512 PER HOUR.
She also had 324 days of holiday/weekend/time off.
But Americans have yet to fully heal from the Great Recession, which officially ended five years ago. Median income remains 3.1% below its June 2009 level of $55,589. (http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/20/news/economy/median-income/)
In TWO HOURS, Hillary Clinton cleared more than the average American does in a 2080 hour annual income.
Nearly every American under the top 1% will never make $9.9M in a LIFETIME.
Yet, Hillary Clinton cleared that in 41 appearances.
41 speeches - more than likely one speech repeated 41 times - is worth more than a LIFETIME of contribution from a fire fighter, a cop, a teacher, a garbage collector, a plumber, a cook, an electrician, or any other vocation that makes REAL contributions to the the economy.
Hillary Clinton talked.
She did not talk flatteringly of the 99% while taking tithe and adulation from the 1%.
She did not strike fear into the heart of Wall Street the way an Elizabeth Warren or a Bernie Sanders does.
She did not promise them to their faces that she was coming and the party was ending.
She talked.
In words and language that assuage their guilt for the 2007-2008 rape and pillage of the planet.
In words and language that made them feel all better for being bad little monkeys.
She talked.
And she was paid.
That money had a purpose beyond hearing her words.
To doubt that, you have must be a blind partisan or the most gullible person alive.
$29,512 PER HOUR.
Let that sink in.
$29,512 PER HOUR.
That is not money being spent to give the middle class hope of a better voice in Washington or a better chance at paying for college....which btw, if I made $29,512 PER HOUR I don't think I would be terribly worried about tuition and fees that would be 100% paid for by the lunch whistle.
$29,512 PER HOUR.
That is not because she told them to "cut it out".
It's because she told them that she would SAY "cut it out" and that as long as the donations flow and the money pit gets refilled as needed, that the only thing getting cut out would be the voice of the people she claims to want to represent.
$29,512 PER HOUR.
That is how the 1% buy off the persons who claims a progressive mantle and agenda that is "pragmatic" and "gets things done"....that the guest bedroom renovation in the Hamptons estate or the Italian marble bathroom in the New York townhouse or the next speaking engagement private plane transportation.
$29,512 PER HOUR.
I am NOT ready for Hillary.
And you shouldn't be either....
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)That so much if her money comes from lobbyists with big banks as clients.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Did she reserve the rights to republish the speeches?
I would love to see the agreement signed.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Heddi
(18,312 posts)somehow I'm not seeing Hill in the breakroom at Beakman Ford Mercury giving a pep-talk from 1:15-2pm..... "Hey Y'all I brought some Dunkin Donuts and Coffee if anyone wants to join me in the breakroom for a little talk-to...."
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)There are two candidates, candidate A is indebted up to their eyeballs in WS,
candidate B is indebted to the citizens.
I have no idea what the difficulty is in making a choice.
Uncle Joe
(58,363 posts)Thanks for the thread, Jefferson.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)This is what $10,000,000 looks like:
100 bundles of $100,000.
See? That's not that much.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Party will be the same again...thank goodness.
I find it appalling to see a candidate propped up as a realistic
counter to a candidate who has no indebtedness. I say this
as a firm Bernie supporter who also has differences of opinion
with him..but not by much...his commitment to fight for a thriving
democracy which we do not have now takes priority for me,
without one not much will get done. Clinton is also a hawk,
and I can't support more war.
I find too that those not supporting him seem to imagine
this is about stuff. I'm not sure they know what political
activism looks like when you're turning the tables on
those who DO take the influence money within their own
party. Voters show up in droves to confront them as to
why are they voting against the desires of their
constituents.
They seem to think this political revolution is about money
and only money..the money has so many tentacles it is
difficult to list all the associations.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Thanks for the read.