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JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:27 AM Oct 2012

'Friends' posting lovely Rmoney propaganda to facebook...

I tend not to flame out those that are near and dear enough to stay on my facebook page, but in this case, I couldn't resist.
The following infopic:



My Response:
Volunteering is done by thousands every day for a variety of reasons not involving family political posturing, Connections and networking established via internships pay long term dividends socially and in business that cannot be matched, the 2 years he spent in Paris thousands of brave men died in the Vietnam war, The LDS Church may not pay their church 'Presidents' but I don't want to hear someone bragging about not being paid for religious administration, he took no pay (except in media capital) for the Salt Lake City Olympics but managed to convince the federal government to give over 1.5 (total) billion in subsidies to prop up the failed venture, and he took no salary as Gov....while he was already a multimillionaire with accounts in switzerland and the Caymens? Doesn't sound likee 28 years of 'unpaid service to his country' but several to his church while dodging taxes, military service, and accountability.....what kind of man is he again?

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'Friends' posting lovely Rmoney propaganda to facebook... (Original Post) JackInGreen Oct 2012 OP
Great response! LeftofObama Oct 2012 #1
Great response, I'm glad a lot of this propaganda is being challenged. Laurian Oct 2012 #2
He is a SELF SERVING MAN. secondwind Oct 2012 #3
Touche! Cha Oct 2012 #34
Romney Gave Part of Inheritance TO HIS KIDS! 66 dmhlt Oct 2012 #4
Let Myth Robme PROVE IT. He lies. TxVietVet Oct 2012 #6
Snopes says that he did reject the Gov Salary ehrnst Oct 2012 #8
At least Mass didn't have to pay him Cha Oct 2012 #35
I bet he shorted his church the 10% on out of country wealth at least. That more than anything Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #17
'Myth' Romney. I like that. freshwest Oct 2012 #24
"Myth RawMoney" more like it IMO. Earth Bound Misfit Oct 2012 #28
Took no salary as gov of MA? I don't think so. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #5
That's why his real name is "Myth RobMe". TxVietVet Oct 2012 #7
He was mia as governor. And in his fourth year was campaigning for president running around geckosfeet Oct 2012 #14
http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/realmitt.asp crim son Oct 2012 #9
How did he give his entire inheritance to charity if he and Ann lived off inherited stocks when gkhouston Oct 2012 #12
Yeah, good question. crim son Oct 2012 #15
I think they are distinguishing between "inhertitance" which you get AFTER your parents die beac Oct 2012 #22
Rich people have all sorts of ways to structure transactions to avoid taxes treestar Oct 2012 #32
He didn't need to take his own salary, since he was getting rich off of taking ours. n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #10
Also I bet he is not turning down the residual income he recieves for having been the worst Gov Ever Heather MC Oct 2012 #18
Oh puh-leeze! EVERYTHING Rmoney has done has been in his own self-interest. Raster Oct 2012 #11
Great Response..... skeewee08 Oct 2012 #13
Like the Olympics tidbit at Snopes getting old in mke Oct 2012 #16
He also received a "Homestead Exemption" on his Utah property taxes. nt MADem Oct 2012 #30
The "charity" he give his money to is the family "gift" trust CanonRay Oct 2012 #19
He got his 'salary" from somewhere else. Miami4Obama Oct 2012 #20
He was born a millionaire -- he can play at whatever he likes. And why exactly should we applaud? anneboleyn Oct 2012 #21
Brilliant response! beac Oct 2012 #23
Mitt's kids can "give their inheritance to charity" also nichomachus Oct 2012 #25
No rich man gives without expecting something back in return. southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #26
I like many others here hockeynut57 Oct 2012 #27
He paid millions for that governorship and did nothing while in the job. MADem Oct 2012 #29
Then how did he get so rich by being a success in business? treestar Oct 2012 #31
Excellent response! octoberlib Oct 2012 #33
Excellent response, JackInGreen.. you have Cha Oct 2012 #36

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. Great response, I'm glad a lot of this propaganda is being challenged.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:41 AM
Oct 2012

Too often, we have turned the other cheek and allowed the opposition to bask in their ignorance. Bravo to you for standing up!

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
4. Romney Gave Part of Inheritance TO HIS KIDS!
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:21 AM
Oct 2012

Mother Jones to the Rescue:

Romney: "What I got from my parents when they passed away I gave away to charity and to my kids."
(Emphasis added)


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/romney-says-i-didnt-inherit-money-my-parents-its-complicated

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
6. Let Myth Robme PROVE IT. He lies.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:50 AM
Oct 2012

I'm willing to be the only charity he's ever given to is to his church. I've listened to part of Ann's story and they had plenty of money from George Rmoney when they needed it. Myth "borrowed" money to buy a house in Massachusetts. When he sold it, he made a handsome profit. With his political and church connections, he got his job where ever he went to work.

AFTER and I repeat, AFTER Myth made his fortunes as a vulture capitalist, he "gave" his money away. So as it goes, Myth's story has lots and lots of bu$hit in the holes.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. Snopes says that he did reject the Gov Salary
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:01 AM
Oct 2012

But was not an intern for 8 years - this also debunks the notion that he gave more of his income to charity than Obama and Biden.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/realmitt.asp

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
17. I bet he shorted his church the 10% on out of country wealth at least. That more than anything
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:29 AM
Oct 2012

prevents him from disclosing his taxes! Sort of like when BP claimed to be green and advertised all of their environmental energy projects. The ad campaign for all of that cost them $100,000,000 and they only spent $5,000,000 on the actual projects! That's your 1%! I bet Rmoney is worth a whole hell of a lot more than the $250,000,000 they give him credit for!

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
14. He was mia as governor. And in his fourth year was campaigning for president running around
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:12 AM
Oct 2012

the country trashing the state.

Wort governor ever. Typical above the people ivory tower ceo entitled mentality.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
9. http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/realmitt.asp
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:05 AM
Oct 2012

The source quoted by Snopes sounds suspiciously enthusiastic about everything Mitt, but I'll assume the basics are true. BTW, that year of working for free for his father's campaign occurred when he wasn't even sixteen years old.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
12. How did he give his entire inheritance to charity if he and Ann lived off inherited stocks when
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:08 AM
Oct 2012

he was a student?

It's entirely possibly that over the course of his life, he's tithed as much money as he inherited, but that's hardly the same thing.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
15. Yeah, good question.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:16 AM
Oct 2012

And as somebody posted above, he gave some of his inheritance to his children. Normally I like Snopes but this time I call bullshit.

beac

(9,992 posts)
22. I think they are distinguishing between "inhertitance" which you get AFTER your parents die
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:15 AM
Oct 2012

and loans/gifts, which are given while they are still alive.

George Romney gifted Mitt with enough stock to pay for his and Ann's college educations and expenses and loaned them the money to buy their first house.

But for Mitt to try and act like he didn't get money from his parents is x10.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. Rich people have all sorts of ways to structure transactions to avoid taxes
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:01 PM
Oct 2012

In fact there was a time the federal estate tax was levied on estates of $600,000. So the rich used the marital deduction, trusts and gifts to transfer their wealth and avoid the tax. They could shelter 1.2 million with the marital trusts.

Myth may have received much in gift money from George over the years, at just the amount per person to avoid the gift tax. That was one strategy that was touted.

Any amounts could have been put in trusts, which would have to pay income tax, but would not be part of the estate at death. George Rmoney died in the 90s when all this was going on.

There's no way he didn't get his "inheritance" it just wasn't technically an inheritance according to tax law.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
18. Also I bet he is not turning down the residual income he recieves for having been the worst Gov Ever
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:32 AM
Oct 2012

Raster

(20,998 posts)
11. Oh puh-leeze! EVERYTHING Rmoney has done has been in his own self-interest.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:07 AM
Oct 2012

When kids his age were being drafted and getting killed in Viet Nam, Rmoney was biking down the Champs d' Elyse, and enjoying one of the most lucrative mormon mission assignments: Paris, France. Think of it as the Texas Air National Guard - you know, the "champagne unit" for mormon kids on their mission.

Rmoney didn't take a salary as governor because it looked good on his resume and he did not need the money. Why did he not need the money?
Because the company he controlled profited TREMENDOUSLY off of the ill fortune of others. Rmoney and Bain specialized in finding good stable companies, buying them (using other people's money), loading them with debt, stealing employee pensions, laying off employees, taking their cut off of the top and then leaving the companies and their employees to die a slow, languishing debt, while the profits were deposited in Rmoney's Swiss or Cayman accounts.

NOTHING about Mitt Rmoney is about altruistic service for the common good.
EVERYTHING about Mitt Rmoney is about personal gain and advancement, NO MATTER WHO HE STEPS ON.

This is the kind of man Mitt Rmoney is.

getting old in mke

(813 posts)
16. Like the Olympics tidbit at Snopes
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:23 AM
Oct 2012

He delayed his pay, made it dependent on a profit for the games.

BUT received $1.4 million for it after final accounting. I, personally, would accept $1.4 million for three years work...

CanonRay

(14,119 posts)
19. The "charity" he give his money to is the family "gift" trust
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:37 AM
Oct 2012

and/or the Mormon church. It's not even a real charity. Bunch of bullshit.

Miami4Obama

(41 posts)
20. He got his 'salary" from somewhere else.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:54 AM
Oct 2012

all the monies that rained on him from all the trash he did when he was at Bain, that makes up for the salaries 'he did not get', and thousand times more.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
25. Mitt's kids can "give their inheritance to charity" also
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:55 PM
Oct 2012

Since he's already transferred hundreds of millions of dollars to them tax free in trusts -- and they will pay 15% tax on them when they take the money out. Whatever they actually "inherit" will be peanuts compared to what they've already gotten. It's a shell game that billionaires pay.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. He paid millions for that governorship and did nothing while in the job.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:03 PM
Oct 2012

They called him Governor NO. The legislature just acted like he wasn't there and passed laws over his no-no-nos.

He spent more time in NH than MA while governor.

He thought MA Gov was his "stepping stone" to the presidency. Instead, he left the corner office on Beacon Hill as one of the most UNPOPULAR governors EVER. He spent millions and millions to get that stepping stone job, too.

FWIW...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. Then how did he get so rich by being a success in business?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:51 PM
Oct 2012
They can't keep their arguments straight! This undermines his alleged brilliance in business. It merely shows he was rich enough to do without a salary and still live high on the hog.

Ye gads, they are stupid.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
33. Excellent response!
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
Oct 2012

Advancing his career at the expense of everybody else. THAT'S the kind of man Mitt Romney is.

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