Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:56 PM Feb 2016

Why is Bernie Sanders trying to hide what his campaign is all about?

By GABRIEL DEBENEDETTI 02/05/16 02:44 PM EST
DURHAM, N.H. — The boos are getting louder. The chants are getting more personal. The shouts from the crowd are getting more frequent.

<...>

Some of Clinton's most prominent supporters and fundraisers were unsettled by chants of ‘she’s a liar’ by Sanders supporters Monday at his caucus night rally in Des Moines and the loud booing that ensued when Clinton was shown on the large screens at the front of the room – a reaction that appeared to prompt the nervous Sanders staff into turning off the televisions.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-rallies-dark-tone-218817#ixzz3zKqHSmjC


Why turn off the televisions? Let the world see what this campaign is all about.

This is a far cry from Obama's positive and uplifting 2008 campaign.

This is all about anger, frustration and indignation. It rubs off on supporters. This is not a positive campaign in my opinion.
58 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why is Bernie Sanders trying to hide what his campaign is all about? (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 OP
I said spin it, spin it good! Avalux Feb 2016 #1
LULZ!!! Champion Jack Feb 2016 #12
Spin It Good! PonyUp Feb 2016 #34
That was awesome!! LOVE IT!! Avalux Feb 2016 #35
omg that's brilliant. snagglepuss Feb 2016 #39
That should be an OP mindwalker_i Feb 2016 #42
And another post goes into my overflowing trash can (eom) mak3cats Feb 2016 #2
If you don't really have anything to say, why bother posting? Live and Learn Feb 2016 #3
In your opinion... beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #4
"Help. I'm being repressed." AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #5
Well, I am glad that politico at last sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #6
It's a veritable Berniebrötterdämmerung~!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #7
Well if he told everyone his plan for worldwide communist domination DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #8
It's an anti-Obama, anti-Democratic party campaign. Metric System Feb 2016 #9
It's an anti-DINO campaign. Sanders is a New Deal Democrat and would like to get us back to those kath Feb 2016 #11
bingo! Champion Jack Feb 2016 #13
exactly! I am tired of holding my nose and voting for right wing Democrats!! nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #15
I am soooo done with doing that. kath Feb 2016 #20
Truth! nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #29
I remember when in 2008 McCain had the decency to rebuke one if his supporters. DanTex Feb 2016 #10
Totally agree. tecelote Feb 2016 #14
Yep, he showed class. Iliyah Feb 2016 #21
Bernie needs one of those moments. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #24
Haha! Fact is, Bernie's too polite to really rip Hillary open the way he shoud. elias49 Feb 2016 #26
I remember that too. She called him a muslim. Perogie Feb 2016 #38
Glad we agree that the primary should be civil. DanTex Feb 2016 #40
Starting to sound like Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #47
Why is it dependent on Hillary? Beacool Feb 2016 #16
Pot calling the kettle... tecelote Feb 2016 #17
Wait...what? cyberswede Feb 2016 #18
Apparently Team Hillary is in a tailspin nichomachus Feb 2016 #19
And your opinion is worth little. Or less. morningfog Feb 2016 #22
The inevitable Jury Results. They couldn't hide ya, Cali.. Cha Feb 2016 #23
LOL Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #25
Oh, boo hoo! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #41
You nailed it. Cha Feb 2016 #43
Looks like there's a need to keep this thread front and center. oasis Feb 2016 #53
Hear that! Cha Feb 2016 #54
One thing I'll give you Cali_Dem Matariki Feb 2016 #27
And she would never boo at a Sanders rally. leftofcool Feb 2016 #31
This will be the Bernie campaign's undoing. leftofcool Feb 2016 #28
I find it fascinating. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #30
Talk about everything but policy. jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #32
It is a fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic party SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #33
Don't be silly. ucrdem Feb 2016 #36
blah blah blah blah hillary is finished, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. bowens43 Feb 2016 #37
Obama said change..yes we can...we didn't get it and we want it now bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #44
HELL YES WE ARE ANGRY. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #45
I've got some news for Hillary supporters-you ain't seen nothin' yet. catnhatnh Feb 2016 #46
Go ahead. Better yet, start a new Face Book page. leftofcool Feb 2016 #48
+1000 nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #52
Invoking Ockham's Razor : Hillary is a LIAR, and people have had enough of her shit? AzDar Feb 2016 #49
That chanting gave me the creeps. betsuni Feb 2016 #50
Same with me. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #56
Just because they call her a Liar doesn't mean they're bernie supporters, Vilify all you want, Her orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #51
IMHO jaded_old_cynic Feb 2016 #55
Shine that light! Alfresco Feb 2016 #57
Strange how far the pendulum has swung Kentonio Feb 2016 #58
 

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)
34. Spin It Good!
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

Flop and flip
Give the truth the slip
Go on and frack
Break the 99%'s back

When a lie comes along
You must spin it
Before it's posted too long
You must spin it
When Hillary's wrong
You must spin it

Now spin it
Use the smilie
Vote it up
Call it hate
Go backwards
Move the goal
Alert it
It's not too late
To spin it
Spin it good

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
6. Well, I am glad that politico at last
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

shows its real intent, even though many will not see
through it, or refuse to do so.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
8. Well if he told everyone his plan for worldwide communist domination
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

It would hurt him in New Hampshire! Duh.

kath

(10,565 posts)
11. It's an anti-DINO campaign. Sanders is a New Deal Democrat and would like to get us back to those
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

Principles.

kath

(10,565 posts)
20. I am soooo done with doing that.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:14 PM
Feb 2016

Won't happen again. Fortunately (for this situation only) I live in a super-red state, so my vote for Prez doesn't matter one iota.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
10. I remember when in 2008 McCain had the decency to rebuke one if his supporters.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

I'm hoping that one of these days Bernie will make an effort to keep the ugliness in check. Sure, it's a campaign, emotions run high, as they always do. But this is getting out of hand.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
21. Yep, he showed class.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:14 PM
Feb 2016

This Anti-Democratic Party ain't sitting too well with Dems. Even the purity test is pissing off Dems.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
26. Haha! Fact is, Bernie's too polite to really rip Hillary open the way he shoud.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe later. When Hillary has piled enough bullshit in one place that the odor becomes unbearable,
someone will tell her: enough!

Perogie

(687 posts)
38. I remember that too. She called him a muslim.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:08 PM
Feb 2016

So McCain corrected her because she was wrong.

Hillary Clinton is a liar and there's video proof. Case closed

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
16. Why is it dependent on Hillary?
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

“It’s a concern, and a lot of it depends on how Hillary reacts during the [primary] contest and after the contest. She can go after Bernie, but she has to go after him respectfully and acknowledge all the time how he brought these issues to the front-burner. She’s gotta keep doing that: ‘We owe a debt of gratitude for bringing these topics to the forefront,’” said former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a staunch, longtime Clinton backer. “It’s a concern, but only if we let it become a concern."

Sanders is the one who should try to reign in his supporters. If they are rude and out of control, it behooves him to try to call for civility. I would expect Hillary to do the same if her supporters start booing and name calling Sanders at rallies or debates.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
18. Wait...what?
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

I think it's natural to be angry and frustrated at a system that benefits the 1% and does nothing for the rest of us.

That doesn't mean his campaign is "all about" anger, frustration and indignation. It's about working to improve the lives of millions of Americans, which seems positive to me.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
19. Apparently Team Hillary is in a tailspin
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

They are pulling out all the stops to trash Bernie.

It's sad to thin that if Hillary manages to get the nomination, they're going to get all these people they're smearing to march in lockstep behind her. Good luck with that. Hillary's smear campaign could actually put a Republican in the White House.

Cha

(297,282 posts)
23. The inevitable Jury Results. They couldn't hide ya, Cali..
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:24 PM
Feb 2016

Why is Bernie Sanders trying to hide what his campaign is all about?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511160701

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Inappropriate, over-the-top.saying that Sanders' campaign is "all about anger, frustration, and indignation" and that he is trying to hide this; and implying that he is responsible for the bad behavior of a small number of his supporters is over-the-top.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:16 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Yes, now the alerter wants to hide the truth that the sanders campaign is full of lies and ugly attacks.

His fans do chant "Liar Liar Liar" and it's his fans who are trying to spin.. Not Cali_Dem.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: post is nonsense but there is no rule against nonsense
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: When you don't have a clue, you really should not bother to open your mouth. Or post.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Just more Clinton smear tactics disguised as news.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: As a Sandernista, this post boils my blood but I don't think it's hideable.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. Oh, boo hoo!
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

So tough and aggressive UNTIL the criticism of Bernie starts (and it's not from a kooky RW site either) then someone runs to a jury to shut down the thread and punish the OP.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
31. And she would never boo at a Sanders rally.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:52 PM
Feb 2016

Or a Jean Shaheen rally. In fact, you won't see one Hillary supporter do that.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
30. I find it fascinating.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:46 PM
Feb 2016

That desparation and panic smell exactly like bullshit. It's that quadrennial stench emminating from the Right Wing of the Democratic Party.

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
32. Talk about everything but policy.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:52 PM
Feb 2016

It's the last best hope for the Clinton supporters - forget the issues and break out the red herrings. So it goes.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
33. It is a fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic party
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

revolution is serious business - not business as usual

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
36. Don't be silly.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016








Bernie's a great big ol' teddy bear. It's his supporters who act up now and then.

.
.
.
.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
37. blah blah blah blah hillary is finished, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:04 PM
Feb 2016

even hillary knows it that's why she was so shrill and angry at the last debate

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
45. HELL YES WE ARE ANGRY.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

And Establishment BS is just making us even ANGRIER!

Anyone who is not angry isn't paying attention.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
46. I've got some news for Hillary supporters-you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:03 PM
Feb 2016

In the last debate she accuse Bernie of smearing her-he hadn't. So next appearance Bernie supporters called her a liar. Bernie is WAY too nice but unfortunately for your feigned butthurt I'm not Bernie and when she lies I'm gonna scream liar. Bosnian sniper? LIAR! I'm named for a mountaineer? LIAR!
I tried to join the marines? LIAR! There has been some hiding-out of respect for this board and it's founders I have hidden the degree to which I detest ALL Clintons. You asked for transparency-you can have it.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
50. That chanting gave me the creeps.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:14 PM
Feb 2016

Those people are just as gullible and witless believing in the fictional Hillary propaganda as those who believed in fictional Obama.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
51. Just because they call her a Liar doesn't mean they're bernie supporters, Vilify all you want, Her
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:18 PM
Feb 2016

honesty, trust, transparency and ambiguous views are no reason to assume Bernie Supporters every time she's called on her ever growing shit .

jaded_old_cynic

(190 posts)
55. IMHO
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:42 PM
Feb 2016

I don't post here a lot, but I've been a member for 14 years and IMHO.

People in this country have been shat upon by the establishment in this country for the last 30+ years.

They're tired, angry, and frustrated. They have finally found someone who understands their frustration, in Bernie Sanders. Some of that frustration spills over into harsh words, and sometimes, actions. That is the nature of our species.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
58. Strange how far the pendulum has swung
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

After all the talk about how tough Clinton is and how Bernie would get torn apart by the smears from the right, now all we hear it that Bernie supporters are too mean and nasty.

This is a primary, if you want to play at this level then put on your big boy or big girl pants and strap in for the ride. This is NOTHING compared to how tough the rhetoric in the general will be like.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Why is Bernie Sanders try...