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Does it strike you that the HRC campaign's attitude towards a lot of young voters is basically THIS? (Original Post) Ken Burch Feb 2016 OP
Has it gotten that bad yet? Renew Deal Feb 2016 #1
A lot of them still seem to think they should never have had to make their case. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #4
There's been many surrogates saying things to the effect of jeff47 Feb 2016 #5
30 year old millenials would have voted for Obama twice Renew Deal Feb 2016 #14
And? jeff47 Feb 2016 #19
if by "Making their case" you mean "consescendingly belittling and insulting them", sure. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #12
Gloria Steinem's statement was awful too... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #16
No. Metric System Feb 2016 #2
No AZ Jim Feb 2016 #3
He doesn't need to buy anybody's votes. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #6
Bernie is calling for an increase for Social Security. SamKnause Feb 2016 #11
What? He's already introduced legislation expanding benefits! Ino Feb 2016 #18
This is where they are now.... Fumesucker Feb 2016 #7
I will never be able to unsee that. n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #9
lol nt raouldukelives Feb 2016 #15
Yup Blueguyinthesky Feb 2016 #8
See Ken-you should have hidden this in the Sanders group catnhatnh Feb 2016 #10
It's a lot of this, too. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #13
Oh, kids are just idealists. I live in the real world WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #17

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
1. Has it gotten that bad yet?
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:56 AM - Edit history (1)

The Albright thing was over the top, but other than that the Clinton campaign has been trying to make their case.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. A lot of them still seem to think they should never have had to make their case.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

That there shouldn't have been any real contest at all, and that their candidate should never have had to move to the left of her comfort zone even in rhetoric.

The "Bernie had no right to even run" meme has never let up from them.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. There's been many surrogates saying things to the effect of
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

"the kids are stupid" or "the kids are too juvenile to understand how things really work" or a host of other ageist smears.

I don't think the Clinton campaign has quite figured out Millennials are around 30 now. Part of their "stuck in the 90s" appears to be thinking Millennials are juveniles.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
19. And?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

They voted for "Yes, we can" in 2008. Not "No, we can't". In 2012, their turnout was down from 2008, since Obama governed much more centrist than his campaign.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. if by "Making their case" you mean "consescendingly belittling and insulting them", sure.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:52 AM
Feb 2016

Like how Debbie Wasserman Schultz did a great job making a case for the DNC to Millennials-- by calling them complacent, at the same time she made a case for the DNC to people who support legalized marijuana, by suggesting that everyone who smokes pot belongs in a prison cell.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
16. Gloria Steinem's statement was awful too...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:36 AM
Feb 2016
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/bernie-sanders-gloria-steinem-women-voters-men-hillary-clinton

And I will just point out that Hillary actually stated she is not part of the Establishment simply because of her gender. That statement in and of itself is sexist. Bernie is a Jew and there has never been a Jewish President, yet you never hear him bring it up.

AZ Jim

(70 posts)
3. No
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

And it's a silly question. Bernie is trying to buy that youth vote with his free college. Yeah, we can afford that but no Social Security cost of living adjustment. Maybe we should give all the kids a free car too, huh Bernie?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. He doesn't need to buy anybody's votes.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

He gets all of his support on the merits.

We could easily afford everything in Bernie's program if we just once seriously cut back the war budget. We don't need a Cold War sized military machine anymore.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
11. Bernie is calling for an increase for Social Security.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:48 AM
Feb 2016

I believe it equals $65.00 per month.

Just thought you might like to know.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
18. What? He's already introduced legislation expanding benefits!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:35 AM
Feb 2016
https://berniesanders.com/issues/strengthen-and-expand-social-security/
Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to end this absurdity, by lifting this cap so that everyone who makes over $250,000 a year pays the same percentage of their income into Social Security as the middle class and working families.

This would not only extend the solvency of Social Security for the next 50 years, but also bring in enough revenue to expand benefits by an average of $65 a month; increase cost-of-living-adjustments; and lift more seniors out of poverty by increasing the minimum benefits paid to low-income seniors.
 

Blueguyinthesky

(54 posts)
8. Yup
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

Of course it is. But at the same time she and her followers are being agist against against the old and trying to portray Sanders as the old white guy who's stuck in 1965 or so. I think it's pretty odd how she seems to hate both the young and the old.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
10. See Ken-you should have hidden this in the Sanders group
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

now these cruel Hillary posters will tear you into rhetorical pieces with their rapier wit and logic-you mouse-molester, you!

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
17. Oh, kids are just idealists. I live in the real world
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:42 AM
Feb 2016

The media is helping her, too.

I'd be pissed and more put off if I was young.

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