How Bernie Sanders broke his first Campaign promise

[FrenchieCat]

Bernie Sanders announced clearly in his Campaign announcement that he would run a Clean campaign. He said,

“As someone who has never run a negative political ad in his life, my campaign will be driven by issues and serious debate; not political gossip, not reckless personal attacks or character assassination.”
https://berniesanders.com/bernies-announcement/

But since, Bernie Sanders’ campaign has indeed been one that invites and includes political gossip, reckless personal attacks and character assassination at every turn. In fact and unfortunately, it has been shocking to many as to the depth of negativity and the frequency of unfounded name calling Bernie’s supporters have pushed. Even non-partisan bistanders are calling it one of the most negative campaigns in Democratic primary history.

Day in, and day out, the comments made on internet, at the end of every blog and positive articles are both vile and extreme. Clinton endorsers are met with personal verbal abuse normally only found on Republican hate sites The tweets of Ms. Clinton’s lack of honesty, the insinuations that she is in the pocket of big banks, are a daily refrain. Comments on her appearance, her demeanor, and even the sound of her voice liter the discussions of her debate performances and town halls. The politics of guilt by association run rampant and unchecked. The intentional personal smears that she is untrustworthy and unlikable, are pointed to as evidence that she could never win a general election. The request of her speech transcripts (the video is out there, and has been for some time) reminds one of the email attacks pursued by corporate media and Republicans.

In so doing, the Bernie campaign, its surrogates and supporters have rightfully earned a reputation of savaging Hillary Clinton in every way deemed possible, rivaling only that of the Republicans 25 years of smears in its intensity. For proof, one only needs to peruse social media to verify the Sander’s campaign of personal destruction; both on a personal and a policy level against Sanders’ rival.

During the nationally televised speech Sanders gave on the eve of the Iowa Caucus, the hate fermented by those in the Sanders’ camp was in full display. The supporters’ chants of “Liar” referring to Hillary Clinton, as Sen. Sanders spoke, and were clearly auditable, and were not hushed in anyway.

Further, the politics of guilt by association are lobbed at those who have the temerity of supporting Hillary Clinton. A picture of Howard Dean sitting next to a Goldman Sachs employee provokes derision of Howard Dean as a stooge, a two-faced corporatist, and a lackey. Hillary Clinton is held to a level of scrutiny normally only seen in a general election. The request for her speech transcripts reminds one of the email attacks pursued by the media and Republicans.

So how does a man running on honesty and integrity, and who promised a positive campaign allow his campaign to become as toxic as his as become, against someone he publicly claims to respect and admire? Because Bernie Sanders is, regardless of what he claims, first and foremost a politician. Anyone fooled that this isn’t a campaign that will say and do whatever is required to get it done, hasn’t been hanging out on the Internet.

Far from Sen. Sanders’ first promise that he would run a positive campaign, his campaign has been artfully doing anything but. Make no mistake, Bernie Sanders is well aware of what his supporters are doing, even as they will claim that he has no control over what they are saying and doing. This may very well be the case, but as the leader of his Revolution, he is responsible for not calling out his supporters and reminding them that he has promised to run a campaign devoid of politics as usual. Having others do one’s dirty work, does not absolve the man or his campaign of accountability, nor should it allow Sen. Bernie Sanders to claim that he is fulfilling one of his first campaign promise, because clearly, that promise has been broken.

[Vinca]

1. Since when is telling the truth a negative thing?

[Jarqui]

8. Supporters of the adversary you're telling the truth about (assuming the truth

is not flattering) conclude that truth is a negative attack. And because it's true, it's a harsher attack - because the truth can sting or wound more and it's harder to rebut because what you've said is true.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Personal attacks on Hillary Clinton character are not "Truth"

they are opinions.....
and more recently have become how she is described by Sanders supporters at every turn.

The campaign is not a positive one.

Whether is talking about how terrible the country is doing,
how much better other countries are,
or how terrible most Democrats are, including the President,

it is not a positive campaign by any means.

You have the right to believe that this is my opinion,
and not the truth...

but you cannot have it both ways.

[BernRevolution]

28. Red Baiting is also not "Truth"

I suppose all the red baiting and sexism accusations by Hillary sycophants are not considered personal attacks? Are the truth because they come from the vaunted sources of the powers that be?

[SidDithers]

86. ...

Sid

[Jarqui]

33. No they're not always merely opinions. In some cases, like calling Hillary a

liar is the plain truth and a fact. For her supporters, I realize that is an uncomfortable fact but it is also true, many times over.

Some folks like me don't like lying politicians. Politics can be tough enough without cutting through spewing BS. A lot of Americans supported the Iraq war. Even Hillary. The problem was, unlike Hillary, most Americans weren't in a position to know better. They were lied to, deceived. 4,000+ dead, ten times that or more maimed. Sadly for me, that wasn't the first time. I was around for Vietnam - which was about 15 times worse in terms of dead and wounded than Iraq. Once again, Johnson and Nixon lied to us.

Some Democrats have been a little hypocritical. We hammered Bush, Cheney & Rice for lying to us ... but look the other way when dear Hillary does it. It's easier to take because her lies aren't getting anybody killed yet. (except maybe for those who will continue to die without healthcare)

Liars in the presidency get decent Americans killed for bad reasons. Because if they had good, justifiable reasons, they wouldn't need to lie.

Hillary Clinton is the most chronic liar I've seen since Nixon. As such, in my view, that disqualifies her from that office. If we're in a pickle, President Sanders won't come on television and lie to us. After a couple of bad wars, that's important to me.

This is a democracy and when we see something is wrong, like a candidate for president lying to the American people, we're supposed to speak up. It's our democratic duty.

If you don't like it, have a caucus with your leader and tell her to stop lying. That would do us all some good if you're successful. Sadly, Hillary doesn't seem to think enough of herself to stop it.

If I see anyone duping fellow citizens like a snake oil salesman, I'm going to call them out. Always have. Always will.

If you want to pretend the only reason this is happening is because we're just a bunch of negative pricks, so be it. That's your prerogative.

[draa]

11. .

[UglyGreed]

30. Depends on what the truth

is it seems.....

[enid602]

2. corner

He's in a corner. He can't win any other way.

[cali]

3. Sorry that is not running a negative campaign.

[FrenchieCat]

13. then you haven't read what is all over the Internet.

[Madam Mossfern]

31. Do you believe things

because you read them on the internet?

[AtomicKitten]

4. “The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.”

[artislife]

5. Showing her word back is negative campaigning.

hmm.

Maybe if she weren't running a negative campaign and I am not talking about against Bernie, there would be nothing in his campaigning that would be considered negative.

Do you follow.

He is reflecting her negatives back to her.

[last1standing]

6. Please list one factually untrue thing Bernie has ever said regarding NoHope Hillary.

Just because you don't like being reminded of how corrupt, arrogant, power-mad, and willing to kill brown people she is, doesn't mean Bernie is running a negative campaign.

Also, please note that I called NoHope Hillary all of the above things, not Bernie. I'm not him and he is not me. Trying to conflate us is a standard NoHope Hillary tactic because she does run on negativity.

[99th_Monkey]

7. It's not a smear to call attention to differences on issues, the nature of an opponents donor base,

or how consistent a candidate has (or hasn't) been in their positions on key issues.

A smear is a personal attack, like insinuating that an opponent is "sexist" or "racist"
when there is no basis in that candidate's record or behavior to support such a claim.

[morningfog]

9. I'm glad he's willing to point out the problems with Hillary.

I wish he was more forceful with it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. Yep. Busted. We're all on Bernie's payroll.

Just like everyone who was against the war in Vietnam were getting paid by the Kremlin.

[Jefferson23]

12. How do you control what people say anonymously online? David Brock is a surrogate

for Clinton, and not anonymous, a self-admitted liar and shill..is this what you really want to argue?

I will grant you, people online have said some of the ugliest lies and
racist shit I have ever heard who are Sanders supporters. I can't
verify any of it and must accept that is who they say they are in
the context of online forums, same goes for Clinton supporters, so
why take any of it seriously?

I suggest dealing with the ones who are identified and verified
by name in public.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

18. +1 n/t

[FrenchieCat]

27. The whole tone of the Sanders campaign is negative.....

and it is his campaign.

Hillary supporters have been pushed out of various forums based on the name calling and accusations that go on.

He can deny it, but it is what it is!

[BernRevolution]

34. The whole tone of Sanders' campaign is telling the TRUTH.....

and his campaign is of, by, for and with the people. I find it hard to believe any Hillary sycophant was pushed out of anywhere (certainly not by the moderators since most publications are ardent fans of the coronation) and since they are usually quick to jump on the sexism charges, the red baiting, the ageism, attacks on his looks etc. Hillary herself once insinuated his grand children didn't count because they were adopted.

[FrenchieCat]

67. Sanders' campaign is telling the TRUTH.....except

to the voters about how all of the promises made will not come to pass in Bernie's first term (if there is one)!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511153695

[TCJ70]

80. OK, this keeps coming up...

...and I'm getting very tired of it. He's been clear, in every speech that nothing happens before congress changes. He's not promised anything until our political make up is altered. That is honest. That is what he's all about. Hillary has given up before she even tries, and would face the same issues a Sanders presidency would. Given her defeatist attitude, she is not the right person to be at the top as she doesn't seem interested in changing this situation.

You've been informed of this several times over and refuse to accept it. As long as you continue this line of distortion, I will copy and paste this post to you.

[Jefferson23]

38. I see you prefer to not answer my questions. I don't like sleazy people either

and I can't remove them nor control them on the internet. I believe
Sanders campaign tried to address them.

David Brock, that is a known entity and he still works for Clinton,
she doesn't seem troubled by him, quite the contrary.

Primaries can bring out the worst in people, unfortunately.

[99Forever]

14. Bullshit.

Hillary crying victim doesn't mean she is one.

This is a primary, if Clinton's ugly history, money-grubbing ways, scandal filled luggage, obvious pandering, documented lying, and blatant immoral warmongering weren't "negative" when she did them, how are they now?

[avaistheone1]

15. Nonsense.

Bernie's truth telling hurts. Eh?

[cyberswede]

16. Is Bernie personally leaving vile & extreme comments on the Internet?

Because if he is, he should cut it out.

[frylock]

41. I heard he was banned from the HRC group.

[Paulie]

82. Wow they are up to 483 banned

Impressive

[Truprogressive85]

19. He has ran a clean campaign in my eyes

It is the Hillary camp that has been playing dirty


Example : A Correct The Record wanted to paint Sen. Sanders as weak pacifist and a Hamas sympathizer

Example B ; Number of Clinton Surrogates " Sanders is not electable"

Example C : David Brock making claim that Sen. Sanders might not care about Black people

Example D : Number of Clinton surrogates paint him as the 2nd coming of Stalin , and warning of Hammers and Sickle

Example E : Bashing call his plans fantasies and making claims would destroy Obamacare ( Sanders has said when if he cant pass S-P ACA will be there)



yes she should release her transcripts of her speech (what is there to hide ? )

[FrenchieCat]

23. A promise is a promise....

and Bernie Sanders promised that he would run a clean campaign,

along with promising many changes if he is elected.....
and those promises will also not be fulfilled.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511153695

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

37. Aye. One candidate is clean. One is not.

I tend on the clean side, and giving me gold to the honest and authentic candidate.

[Jefferson23]

42. You have an opinion about his campaign and another one on his platform.

His political platform is not about free stuff and the gerrymandering is one
aspect this political revolution will address..which involves activism beyond
the voting booth. You're in no position to claim nothing will be
fulfilled from those actions due to your own confusion about what his
goals and objectives are....fighting against money in politics comes first.

[Bradical79]

72. He has run a clean campaign -nt

[Paulie]

83. Example F: Brock floating out that he had health problems and should release his medical records

Funny when he did and Hillary still hasn't.

[Truprogressive85]

87. Bingo

Thank you

[SoLeftIAmRight]

20. LOl

...

[Romulox]

21. Bernie is running a masterful campaign. He'd be a fool to change now. nt

[Avalux]

22. Bzzzzzzz try again! n/t

[Gothmog]

24. Bernie is just another politician and has gone negative

[Jarqui]

25. I think it a terrible stretch and wrong to try to pin the negative things

on Sanders and his campaign.

He's not directing what folks say below articles or posts in this forum or shout outs at rallies or any of this stuff.

When a candidate lies or deceives as much as Hillary has, they're basically confessing to the country that they're not as good as the candidate they're running against because they themselves feel that they cannot beat that candidate if people knew the real truth about them. Otherwise, why lie?

So Hillary herself has already told us several times over that she really thinks Bernie is the better candidate for President of the United States. Actions speak louder than words sometimes.

When people catch on to that deceptive behavior, some do not embrace it. A number find it insulting because Hillary has to think pretty low of their intellect to believe they would swallow some of the dumb things Hillary has tried to deceive them with. Some might chant "liar, liar" because she really insulted them with her lies - did that ever occur to you?

I could go on and on, refuting point by point, but I don't feel like wasting any more time on this.

[FrenchieCat]

26. Plausible deniability

Plausible deniability
Plausible deniability is the ability for persons to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others because of a lack of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions. In the case that illegal or otherwise disreputable and unpopular activities become public, high-ranking officials may deny any awareness of such act in order to insulate themselves and shift blame onto the agents who carried out the acts, confident that their doubters will be unable to prove otherwise. The lack of evidence to the contrary ostensibly makes the denial plausible, that is, credible, although sometimes it merely makes it unactionable. The term typically implies forethought, such as intentionally setting up the conditions to plausibly avoid responsibility for one's actions or knowledge. In some organizations, legal doctrines such as command responsibility exist to hold major parties responsible for the actions of subordinates involved in heinous acts and nullify any legal protection that their denial of involvement would carry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

[Jarqui]

49. I'm not sure you understand the term

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From your link above:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

Plausible deniability is the ability for persons (typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command) to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others (usually subordinates in an organizational hierarchy) because of a lack of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions

There has to be some chain of command where Sanders has to know who is doing what in order to stop them from doing whatever. I've never seen him in person, communicated with him in any form, etc He cannot be responsible for my actions. And therefore, he cannot plausibly deny them.

If that is the truly case, poor president Obama is arguably an accessory to every crime committed in the United States.

I think we have to be a little more reasonable about our expectations.

[DanTex]

36. True, but...

Certainly, Sanders is nothing like some of the unpleasant people smearing the facebook pages and inboxes of liberals. But as the leader of the revolution, as he puts it, he has to take some responsibility for what is happening in his name. When his supporters yell "liar, liar" at Clinton, he has an obligation to object. That's not even the internet, that's right there in person.

And his campaign isn't entirely innocent. When he challenges her integrity or insists that she's not a progressive, that's beneath him. Particularly the SuperPAC stuff, in light of the fact that it is Bernie, and not Hillary, that has benefited the most from SuperPAC money thus far in the primary.

[Jarqui]

47. By her own admission:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/

"You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center," Clinton told the audience at a Women for Hillary event in Ohio. "I plead guilty."

The truth is, she isn't really that either - she's a chameleon. She stands open to take any position at any time that will get her votes. There's a long list of flip-flops to back that up.

And that is in essence what Sanders complaint really is when he says she isn't a progressive.

"When his supporters yell "liar, liar" at Clinton, he has an obligation to object. That's not even the internet, that's right there in person."

Why does he have an obligation to object? What the supporters are expressing is the truth. Hillary has a big, career long problem with telling the truth.

"Particularly the SuperPAC stuff, in light of the fact that it is Bernie, and not Hillary, that has benefited the most from SuperPAC money thus far in the primary."

Wrong:
Sanders one PAC, a friggin Nurses union
National Nurses United for Patient Protection Total Spent $1,362,808
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00490375


Clinton's Two main PACs
Priorities USA Action Total Spent $5,657,289
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00495861

Correct the Record Total Spent $3,104,477
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00578997

There's a difference you are pretending isn't there. Bernie Sanders isn't for sale. Those nurses are backing him because they stand behind what he does - not to buy his influence.

Elizabeth Warren went to great lengths to tell you what money did to Hillary

[thereismore]

29. You are talking about a man who refuses to use the emails to attack her.

Just saying'.

[Motown_Johnny]

32. Prove it. All I see is unfounded allegations. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

40. The name calling is hideous.....

http://bernieinthenews.com/id/16126983938

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/users/2016/02/bernie_bros_are_bad_the_conversation_around_them_is_worse.html

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/01/20/bernie_sanders_says_planned_parenthood_is_establishment_is_it.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-supporters-blocked-on-tinder-after-campaigning-on-dating-app/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/here-comes-the-berniebro-bernie-sanders/411070/

[Motown_Johnny]

43. I didn't call you a name. I said your allegations were unfounded.

Who is the one waging unfair attacks here? Not me, that is for damn sure.


4 of your 5 links are about Bernie's supporters. Not Bernie, yet you are the one smearing his name. Prove BERNIE is doing what you claim, not a few out of control supporters.

The 1 other link is simply about Bernie pointing out that the leadership of the Planned Parenthood PAC is part of the Democratic Establishment. That is an accurate statement and anyone saying it isn't is the dishonest one.


Epic Fail, on so many levels.

[FrenchieCat]

44. I didn't say you called me a name....

I simply provided you with instances of negativity from the Bernie Sanders campaign.

[Bradical79]

73. No you didn't

You didn't provide any instances of negative campaigning from the Bernie campaign.

[Agony]

74. You are making a mockery of serious issues that this country needs to address

negativity is not voting to ban cluster munitions in populated areas when you have the power to do so.

the OP is a pure pablum post.

[liberal_at_heart]

35. Ah, yet another Bernie supporters are mean and Hillary supporters are saints thread.

[frylock]

39. Opinions expressed on the internet from random Sanders supporters without any affiliation..

with the campaign are now to be considered negative campaign ads. This is how far around the bend we've come.

[SMC22307]

45. This "useless white supremacist liberal" is literally LOLing at that OP.

I *so* don't do victimhood.

Sanders is running a clean campaign. No candidate -- including Hillary -- should be expected to control online supporters. That would be disturbing, but maybe you like that sort of dominance.

[winter is coming]

46. Seriously?

There's your credibility, down the bend.

[AOR]

48. LMFAO...a fierce defender of Clinton now are we ?

you really can't make this shit up. The hypocrisy is astounding.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4522650


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7885979


Shall I keep digging while you show such "righteous and moral outrage" at the Sanders campaign and his supporters going after Clinton's record.

[FrenchieCat]

50. I don't have to love Hillary Clinton to support her

at this time. I am not voting for BFF!

I want the strongest candidate going into the general election,

and so if I'm willing to back her, considering whatever I might have documented about her positions 8 years ago,

means that I don't think that Sanders has a prayer of a chance.

That's what that all means.

[AOR]

51. Yawn...

[azmom]

52. OMG

[SMC22307]

58. LOL Oh, God, another one.

Right up there with Cha/Chae, MineralMan, Journalist Steven Leser and... I've lost track of all of 'em!

[orpupilofnature57]

53. Her Machiavellian way of life is an insult to honest people, like those debates she avoided, until she

needed one .

[bkkyosemite]

54. If the truth is so victimizing get out of the race.

But she says she's tough and vetted and Bernie isn't.

[TTUBatfan2008]

55. Strange line of attack, Frenchie.

You were a strong supporter of Obama and repeatedly pointed out Clinton's flaws in 2008. Don't tell me you have completely changed your mind on the issues.

I am seeing some pretty nasty gender card attacks on Sanders, which is a shame given the fact that the Clinton camp has supported policies that killed hundreds of thousands or millions of innocent women around the world over the last 25 years. The War Machine needs to be stopped.

[FrenchieCat]

59. As I said.....

The fact that I was no Clinton ally in 2008,
only demonstrate how little I believe Sanders can win in a general election.

I'm not voting for BFF,
I'm voting for the person who I believe is best suited to win
against Republicans. period...end of story!

[TTUBatfan2008]

61. Then just come out and start a thread along those lines...

Instead of the disingenous attempt to discredit the guy for something that is probably not in his control. He can't control random people on the Internet. I've seen plenty of nasty stuff from Hillary people on the Internet. Other thing is Hillary described herself as a proud moderate when she believed it was the right way to win the nomination. Sanders quoted her on this statement and she accused him of an artful smear. It's not a smear when Hillary's record backs up the statement. She wasn't lying when she called herself a moderate and Sanders was not lying when he quoted her.

Madeleine Albright, who is an OFFICIAL surrogate of Hillary, suggested while introducing Hillary at a campaign event that there is a special place in hell for women who don't support Hillary. That is ludicrous coming from someone who felt Bill Clinton administration's killing 500,000 innocent Iraqi women and children was "justified." And that was just in the 1990's. it is even more ludicrous when you consider that Hillary furthered this killing agenda by voting for the Iraq War in 2003, which killed hundreds of thousands of innocent women once again. There is a special place in hell for hypocrites like Madeleine Albright.

[FrenchieCat]

64. The OP is not only my truth....

Bernie Sanders Encourages the Rudeness of His Supporters
http://www.reardonreports.com/bernie-sanders-encourages-the-rudeness-of-his-supporters/

Sanders Supporters Chant 'Liar' During Clinton Speech
http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20160202/3869743/Sanders-Supporters-Chant-Liar-During-Clinton-Speech.htm

Just the sight of Hillary Clinton brings shouts of "Liar" at Sanders headquarters
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/02/02/sight-of-hillary-throws-sanders-supporters-into-rage-shes-a-liar-chants-takeover-headquarters-301559

[immoderate]

79. Saying these links implicate Bernie is disingenuous.

They are about some people that some other people judge to be rude.

--imm

[sadoldgirl]

63. No, this is not the end of the story.

You attack Bernie in a way that makes out that
HRC is a victim.

If she cannot take the heat,......!

Reminds me very much about the statement
Truman made about truth and hell.

Remember that one?

[FrenchieCat]

65. You can lash out at me personally....

if it makes you feel better.

[HassleCat]

56. I'm the victim! The big victim! The only victim!

Oh geez, the artful smear thing. Weak stuff. The irony here is the accusation of Sanders using guilt by association.

[basselope]

57. All the claims here are of SUPPORTERS.. not of the campaign.

[FrenchieCat]

62. No, not really....

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Bernie's in there too!

The Campaign is supposed to be a "we the people" campaign,
and the Political Revolution depends on Bernie Supporters,
therefore making Bernie Supporters the campaign....

plus as a leader of a revolution,
he cannot use plausible denial as a defense for the tenor of his overall campaign.

[basselope]

78. Yes, really.

Nice try though...

[Andy823]

60. Sometimes I think

Some of his so called supporters have two goals in mind. One is plain as day, destroy Hillary Clinton by posting every vile right wing talking point that has been used since Bill Clinton became president, and two make Bernie look bad in the process. This would work against Hillary getting into the WH as well as making sure Bernie does not get elected either. In other words some of these people have their own agenda of making sure a "republican" wins come November not a democrat.

[mhatrw]

66. Clinton and her supporters are ever persecuted and always victims.

Clinton and her surrogates constantly attack by and/or while playing the victim card. Doesn't your bleeding heart bleed for poor, poor disempowered Hillary?

Anybody who has the gall to publicly express her or his political disagreement with Clinton or her supporters is by definition mean-spirited, racist and sexist. That's the only consistent line of attack Clinton and her supporters have and they are sure sticking with it.

[FrenchieCat]

70. Yes, you are correct about the mean spirited attacks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1124788

[hifiguy]

68. Truth is an absolute defense.

That is all.

[JackRiddler]

69. "the comments made on internet..."

this is not evidence of work by the Sanders campaign, any more than the disgusting attacks on him by liberal pundits are all orchestrated by Clinton. You give no examples but engage in general and false defamation.

[FrenchieCat]

75. Oh yeah?

Well, I beg to differ....

http://www.reardonreports.com/bernie-sanders-encourages-the-rudeness-of-his-supporters/

[DefenseLawyer]

71. Well the Sanders ad where Clinton morphs into Osama bin Laden is a little over the top n/t

[JackRiddler]

76. heh.

[aikoaiko]

77. Bernie is running a very positive campaign. I don't understand why HRC whine so much about comments

from rivals' supporters on the internet or at political events. Even if some of the comments have been rude -- so what? That's not his campaign.

Is this the leadership example of HRC? Whining?

[mindwalker_i]

81. This OP is really sleazy

The poster says mean things are being said about Hillary on the Internet and blames it on Sanders. Not one link (admittedly I stopped reading comments half way down). The poster also implies that Sanders saying things about Hillary that may be true but are unflattering is "negative."

It's bad enough that Hillary is running a sleazy campaign, but it's pretty annoying that her supporters are also only too happy to be sleazy.

[AzDar]

84. Frankly, I think Bernie should go a lot harder... she's dirty and thoroughly compromised; he's too

nice to point it out. I hope that changes.

[SidDithers]

85. DU rec...nt

Sid