PPP National Poll: Hillary 53% Bernie 32% AA vote 82-8 Clinton

[book_worm]

On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders 53/32. Sanders does keep gradually moving closer- our previous couple polls had her leading 56/28 in December and 59/26 in November. But he still has some weaknesses that may make it hard for him to catch up. Primary among these is African American voters- Clinton leads 82/8 with them and has a 79/9 favorability compared to 27/23 for Sanders. That does suggest some possibility for Sanders to improve his position- part of his problem is just that black voters don’t really know him yet- but he’s starting at a tremendous disadvantage that will make the upcoming run of Southern primaries very difficult for him.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/02/republican-race-tightens-nationally-clinton-still-solid.html#more

In 2008 in SC Obama in PPP's final SC poll had a 67-13 point lead over Hillary among African-Americans and easily won the state on election day.

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R!

[Jenny_92808]

2. just wait

until AA's find out that Hillary won't help them, but Bernie will

[stonecutter357]

3. we just don't know him.

[Floridanow]

33. African Americans love the Clintons.

May be you should try going into an African American barbershop or other shop and try listening instead of preaching. African Americans have shown election after election that they are the only voting group that is able to identify and vote it's best cummulative interests. Implying that the group has not vetted Clinton thoroughly is being dismissive.

[Boomer]

4. The Republicans may regret voter suppression

Republicans continue to double-down on voter suppression for minorities and old folks. Both factions are more likely to support HRC than Bernie, so it will be interesting to see whether that skew bites the Republicans by helping Sanders.

The GOP may think that Sanders is easier to defeat in the general election, but I think they will get a big surprise if they rely on that assumption.

[jeff47]

5. Make sure you leave out more recent PPP history

It's nice you talked about their results in SC in 2008. But you left out their more recent history.

Like their last 2016 IA poll being Clinton +8%.

[Betty Karlson]

18. In other words: these results are likely to be skewing heavily for Clinton.

Thought as much...

[hedda_foil]

6. I hope someone who knows how to do the HuffPo pollster charting will run this

The Q poll,which has fallen right in the middle and got Iowa right, had her up by only 2 points yesterday. I want to see a chart for PPP, including Iowa results.

[workinclasszero]

7. Hillary 53% Bernie 32% AA vote 82-8 Clinton

But...but...Killer Mike...Dr West....

[MoonRiver]

8. WooHoo!

[DCBob]

9. Bernie is in Republican territory in terms of AA vote.

Yikes!

[gyroscope]

10. 80% landlines, no cellphones

PPP stands for Piss Poor Polling methods.

[basselope]

11. Bernie continues to close the gap.. good news!

[TeddyR]

12. Why does the ethnicity or sex of the voters matter?

I don't understand this constant effort to divide people by skin color or sex, and it certainly doesn't convince me to vote for any particular candidate.

[hack89]

20. Because black voters are critical to winning Democratic primaries

different racial groups have different voting patterns. Bernie will not win if he does not get non-white votes. That is why it is important.

[TeddyR]

26. I'd prefer to keep it race-neutral

Don't you think that is the best approach? Did black voters decide the Iowa caucuses?

[dsc]

28. actually they might have

she won POC by a huge margin and her victory margin was rather small.

[hack89]

32. Iowa and NH are extremely white

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And very non-representative of the rest of the Dem primary states. In those states non-white voters are in many cases the majority.

[Floridanow]

34. Iowa is like 97% White.

New Hampshire isn' t far behind. Blacks make up close to 30% of population in southern states and half the democratic voters.

[TeddyR]

42. Are blacks really half the Democratic voters?

Didn't realize that.

[DemocraticSocialist8]

13. PPP has been off so far in 2016

Grain of salt poll

[SidDithers]

14. 82-8! Holy crap that's a big margin in a key demographic...

Bernie can't win against those kinds of numbers.

No way. No how.

Sid

[Stuckinthebush]

15. That is exactly why NH is Sanders' last hurrah

He's done after that because of demographics.

He has been reaching out to POC for months with no movement. It ain't gonna happen now.

[thesquanderer]

17. And yet, when POC learn about Sanders, his favorables become at least as good as hers.

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511149130

I think the issue he may run up against is that people will genuinely like both of them, but can only vote for one... and Hillary has the edge in having developed a long-established comfort level.

[Iliyah]

29. No hurrah, HRC in for the win. She did with Pres O

she can do it again!

[DemocraticSocialist8]

38. The poll states that 50% of Black voters are STILL UNDECIDED

That is huge and shows that there's still a lot of Black votes out there up for grabs

[demwing]

16. In a Primary Season, this PPP poll is already retirement age

the latest polls are showing a national tie.

Catch up.

[Cheese Sandwich]

19. Why do people report PPP polls as if they are not part of the Clinton campagin

[reformist2]

22. Shhh! Can't let the secret out! The purpose of the PPP is to skew the polling aggregates.

As the race tightens, expect the PPP results to get even more outrageous.

[NurseJackie]

21. #CRASHANDBERN ... Bernie is in FREEFALL!! His numbers are IMPLODING!!

There's NO WAY he'll ever be the nominee!

Go, Hillary! We love you!

[reformist2]

23. I admire your wishful thinking! I bet you whistle past the graveyard, too?

[SidDithers]

25. #CrashAndBern!...

Love it.

Sid

[thesquanderer]

24. What crazy polling swings

So PPP is showing Hillary 53/32 nationally over Bernie among "usual Democratic primary voters" while Quinnipiac just showed Hillary leading by only 44/42 among "Democratic or Democratic leaning voters" (which was a huge movement from 61/30 in December). Part of it might be that PPP's "usual" voters would seem to skew against younger people who may now be eligible and/or motivated to vote for the first time...?

[DCBob]

27. I think you are right about the cause of the difference.

PPP's "usual" voters vs Q's Dem/Dem leaning voters. Which is correct is up for debate but I think PPP is more accurate.

[Iliyah]

30. PP was pretty much on the mark in 2012, Q was off

I'll take PP for the accuracy. Propaganda Corporate Media ran with the Q poll which is an outlier just like before. HRC is up over BS at least by 15-20%, and that is fact.

[DCBob]

31. Agreed.

cheers!

[Floridanow]

35. That is what I remember also.

The Q poll was one of those showing a Romney win, PPP pointed otherwise.

[mcar]

36. K&R

[Gothmog]

37. Thanks for posting

[MoonRiver]

39. Kick!

[riversedge]

40. And a Big REC...

[NurseJackie]

41. Kick.