Hillary Clinton is heading to Flint, while Bernie Sanders is heading to NYC to do SNL

[ProudToBeLiberal]

So, we have one candidate who is backing up her words with action, while Bernie Sanders decide to go on a detour to do SNL.

The optics couldn't be worse for Bernie Sanders. He talks about how he would help people, but Hillary Clinton is the one who is rolling up her sleeves and taking action.

Kudos to Hillary Clinton. She will be in Flint trying to help, while Bernie Sanders will be on SNL frolicking with Larry David.

[Wilms]

1. Poor Flint Residents Denounce Hillary for Politicizing their Plight & Using Them to Try to Win Votes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511156958

[SusanCalvin]

10. This. ^^

[Ferd Berfel]

71. and This. ^^ again !

a cynical photo-op from the person that Championed Fracking and Keystone TPP (some of which she has triangulated out of for the time being)

Is this her attempt at redemption?

This is OK:



But this isn't 'eh?



Yeah, she's got my back.

[Rose Siding]

31. Maybe they won't like Bernie moving into his new campaign hq there.

Or just hope he never visits them, I guess?

http://www.abc12.com/news/headlines/367823871.html

[SusanCalvin]

79. Well, I can't copy an excerpt because the whole thing is two paragraphs,

But, having read them, I'd say an area campaign headquarters is a bit different from a fly-in.

[Octafish]

39. Bernie called for Snyder to resign.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/01/16/sanders-synder-retire-flint-water-crisis/78895980/

[azurnoir]

62. 1/19 Flint Mayor endorses Hillary 1/20 Flint Mayor says Snyder shouldn't resign

Flint Mayor Karen Weaver says she will not call for Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder's resignation over the water crisis in her city.

Asked at the U.S. Conference of Mayors meeting in Washington, D.C., what repercussions Snyder should face, she said Snyder needs to remain in place to provide "the services and the money, the funds that we need to address the population."

Flint's water became contaminated with too much lead when its water source was switched in a cost-cutting measure in 2014. Protesters called for the governor's resignation as he delivered his State of the State speech Tuesday night.

Weaver refused to join those calls, saying she is staying focused on what she can get from the governor to resolve the crisis.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/38ec7c52c4a84fc7a5ac4c56fa8bb60f/latest-flint-mayor-wont-call-snyder-step-down

[SusanCalvin]

85. Wow. Very interesting. nt

[Octafish]

89. Talk about settling for half a loaf.

Some people just like to work with others, rather than see them behind bars where they belong.

The people at WSWS are asking the Big Picture questions about the Flint water crisis:

Questions emerge over motives behind ending Flint’s ties to Detroit water system

By James Brewer and Jerry White
World Socialist Web Site, 29 January 2016

EXCERPT...

As early as March 2012 Dillon had met with Flint city officials to discuss switching from Detroit to KWA. A study by the engineering firm Tucker, Young, Jackson and Tull, which was commissioned by Dillon, found it was far more cost-effective to stay with DWSD. Their results were ignored, based on claims by Dillon that their numbers were wrong.

The decision to switch to the KWA despite potential cost-savings for Flint raises several questions about the real motivation of state and local officials for the move.

Did then-state treasurer Andy Dillon make the decision to sever Flint—Detroit’s largest customer—from Detroit in order to deliberately exacerbate the financial crisis in Detroit?

CONTINUED...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/01/29/dwsd-j29.html

Andy Dillon, Michigan's State Treasurer referenced above, ran for the Democratic nomination for governor in 2010. When he lost to Lansing mayor Virg Bernero, Dillon went on vacation instead of helping beat the GOP candidate, Rick Snyder. Not that it was a reward or anything, but he got a nice job offer from... Snyder.

Ex-rival Andy Dillon slights Virg Bernero

Mich. Democrat leaders: Party is unified

by Chris Christoff
Detroit Free Press,August 7, 2010

House Speaker Andy Dillon was drubbed in the Democratic gubernatorial primary by television ads that portrayed him as a greedy Wall Street raider who opposes a woman's right to choose abortion.

Then he was drubbed by rival Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero in Tuesday's election.

Friday, a visibly relieved Dillon smiled and said he was ready to work for Democrats in the fall campaign.

But he caused a buzz by not endorsing Bernero in front of about 200 Democrats assembled in downtown Detroit for a post-election unity breakfast.

"I want to make certain some of the things I was fighting for are going to be embraced," he told reporters afterward. "Then we'll get there. We don't have to decide that today."

He added, "It's not a slap. We just got done with a campaign. I'm going to take a vacation. We'll sort it out when I come back."

It was another enigmatic move from a politician who has become an iconoclast to some fellow Democrats, scorned by some union leaders as too cozy with business and too frosty with organized labor, and criticized as a legislative leader.

CONTINUED...

http://archive.freep.com/article/20100807/NEWS15/8070314/Ex-rival-Andy-Dillon-slights-Virg-Bernero

Loyalty to the Almighty Dollar is Buy Partisan. Too bad about all the little people who get poisoned and murdered in the process.

[ViseGrip]

108. Action is needed now. What can Hillary do? She's not even in office??? Government IS in action now

though not with enough force, in my opinion. The Army Corp of Engineers should be down there already tearing out those pipes and fixing everything that needs to be fixed, to give them clean water. Just for starters. But Hillary can go and talk all she wants about the future. They need help now. The people in place to do that are there. It's up to them to act.

[BlueCaliDem]

97. Yep. He's got that speechifying down-pat. Good talker.

But that's about it.

[Octafish]

136. Serious rhetoric. Surprised so few Democrats joined him in calling for Snyder's head.

FTR: Democrats are implicated in what happened in Flint.

The EPA’s Silent, Guilty Role in the Flint Water Crisis

Michigan's governor has borne the brunt of the blame, but there's plenty to go around.

BY REBECCA LEBER
The New Republic, January 22, 2016

Michigan Governor Rick Snyder in recent weeks has come under intense pressure over the water crisis in Flint, Michigan, which was precipitated two years ago when his administration, in an effort to cut costs, changed the city’s water supply from Lake Huron to the Flint River. The move led to a dangerous increase in lead in the water supply; just 5 parts per billion is cause for concern, especially for children, but Flint’s tap water has had five times that amount. And yet, officials insisted until late last fall that the water was safe for its 100,000 residents to drink.

SNIP...

It was only once Flint became a national story, and Snyder and President Barack Obama declared a state of emergency, that the EPA admitted its initial response was too slow. Residents and the American Civil LIberties Union were still petitioning the EPA to act in October, long after the agency first became aware of potential problems.

In April 2014, Flint’s residents, the majority of whom are black, were assured by the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) that “the quality of the water being put out meets all of our drinking water standards and Flint water is safe to drink.” The EPA didn’t know something was amiss until February 2015. Miguel Del Toral, a water expert with the EPA Region 5 office, noted in February that Flint’s water wasn’t being treated for lead since the switch to Flint River and that state tests were understating the problems, according to documents obtained by the ACLU.

Del Toral raised two main concerns: The water wasn’t being treated properly and the testing showing the water was safe was inaccurate. “I’m worried that the whole town may have much higher lead levels than the compliance results indicated,” Del Toral warned in an April memo to DEQ, which was summarized in the email batch released Wednesday.

CONTINUED...

https://newrepublic.com/article/128156/epas-silent-guilty-role-flint-water-crisis

Does the name "Andy Dillon" ring a bell?

[BlueCaliDem]

137. Ohhh...okay. So now it's Democrats' fault, not Republican Snyder and his band of City-Manager

Thieves that he had replaced with elected officials with. And, mind you, if you really dig deep, it'll eventually fall right smack on President Obama's head.

Yep.

[Octafish]

138. Not all Democrats. Just the corporatist ones.

You know, the ones who side with the rich bastards who went along with the Emergency Manager the Republican governor and legislature appointed; the ones who think it's a good idea for government to save money by reducing services to the urban poor and not even notifying the People when their health is threatened by their actions/inaction; the ones who let Detroit go bankrupt because Detroiters are overwhelmingly poor and Black and the banksters must get paid; the ones who go back and forth between government "service" and their corporate jobs on Wall Street or Big Pharma or Big Oil; the ones who don't lose a minute's sleep over the wars without end for profits without cease. Those corporatist Democrats.

FYI: Andy Dillon is one of those. Virg Bernero is not one of those.

[840high]

117. +100

[cyberswede]

2. What action is she going to do in Flint?

[cantbeserious]

7. Flap Her Gums - Yelling - "Cut That Out"

eom

[BlueCaliDem]

100. Maybe she's gone there to coordinate Bernie's revolutionaries - OH WAIT.

Where are those dang revolutionaries when you need them, huh?

[cantbeserious]

102. No She Is Going As A Media Stunt To Save Her Failing Campaign - No Mystery To HRC Motivations

eom

[BlueCaliDem]

107. No, she's going there to show her support - as a hopeful future leader *should* do. Where are those

tens of thousands of Bernie Revolutionaries who should be marching in Flint against this travesty? When will that dang Bernie revolution begin already??

As I've said many times before...all hat, no cattle.

[cantbeserious]

111. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

eom

[BlueCaliDem]

122. Can't answer me, cantbeserious? If ever a revolution could start, it could start in Flint.

Where are all those revolutionaries? There are at least 50,000 or more, aren't there? Where are they? Surely, not in Flint.

Revolution my behind.

[cantbeserious]

124. Well Then - Let's Hope The Flint Residents Are Ready For HRC's Arrival - With Pitch Forks

The revolution has to start somewhere - The Flint Citizens running HRC out of town - would be a very good start.

[BlueCaliDem]

126. So that's a no. You can't answer. Don't worry. I never had any faith you could.

[cantbeserious]

127. One Observes - That One Is Incapable Of Reading - Only Typing - Too Sad

eom

[NowSam]

8. Maybe she'll donate some of her 150 million in speaking fees to

clean up the water supply! No? What? Her trip is just a stunt?

[840high]

118. heehee

[think4yourself]

128. It probably will end up costing

the town to increase security, etc.

[SwampG8r]

134. Be careful using stunt in regards to HRC

Her poutrage battallion will try to make you disappear for it

[NowSam]

135. How about "perceived to be a stunt"

is that better? Am I allowed to have perceptions?

[MrMickeysMom]

9. She'll talk and talk and talk...

and talk and talk and talk....

And we'll have some photos!

On edit: I hope Flint asks her what she was doing in Philadelphia a few weeks before-hand with the Oil and Gas industry.

[kath]

25. " I hope Flint asks her what she was doing in Philadelphia a few weeks before-hand with the oil and

Gas industry"

THIS!

[HassleCat]

33. Good suggestion!

[kath]

17. Shameless pandering. Which, hello!, does not equal "taking action".

[TheBlackAdder]

3. Not sure what the gameplan is. This seems like a McCain "Suspend my campaign" moment. nt

[TheBlackAdder]

4. We're talking about someone who promoted fracking worldwide, damaging OK, NY, PA and TX watersheds.

.


She's all of a sudden worried about the people of Flint, MI when she was pushing fracking domestically and worldwide.


Her positions on KXL are another issue, as the next president will be able to reverse Obama's stay.


Fracking and Big Oil destroyed people and household in multitudes as of yet determined!


#hypocrisy


.

[kath]

29. And EARTHQUAKES. So sick of all the damned earthquakes we're having.

[SusanCalvin]

34. Really.

And at first media, TPTB, etc., just wondered if they *might* be related to fracking. Please. It was obvious from the first few little ones.

[cantbeserious]

5. Grand Standing - Faux Pretensions Of Concern - A Staged Media Event

eom

[Armstead]

6. And what specifically will she do there? Singlehandedly replace all the pipes?

And you want to begrudge Bernie a few moments of levity on a Saturday night? How many times has she been on SNL?

[Atman]

11. Your concern is duly noted.

[pandr32]

12. Hillary Clinton and her family's foundation have been dedicated to helping people

...for a long time. The Clinton Foundation has been a cause that has taken much of the Clintons time and energy trying to organize resources and alliances to get help where it is most needed for oppressed people--particularly women and children.
I do not recall that Sanders heads a charitable, global foundation that actually gets stuff done.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

14. +1. Nt

[questionseverything]

46. the clinton foundation could easily pay for every pipe to be replaced

even if hc announces that it will still be pandering

[SusanCalvin]

94. That is a very good point.

But recognizing that some places in the USA might as well be third world countries would spoil the illusion.

[BlueCaliDem]

98. How much has the Sanders contributed to that grand plan of yours?

Those in glass houses...

[jeff47]

58. So what's the Clinton Foundation doing about Flint? (nt)

[Broward]

13. Bernie has been fighting for the little guy is entire political life.

I think he's earned a night off now and again.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

16. Fine, I'll take the bait. What did Bernie do to help victims of the Haitian earthquake? Nt

[cantbeserious]

19. No Citizen Has Infinite Time Or Energy For All Disasters, Tragedies, Causes And Concerns

eom

[ProudToBeLiberal]

24. Thank you for making my point. Nt

[cantbeserious]

27. No Point Was Made From This Vantage Point

eom

[Empowerer]

75. Of course not, given the vantage point

[cantbeserious]

76. Yes - Thank You For Validating The Insight

eom

[BlueCaliDem]

99. Good one.

[SammyWinstonJack]

72. You Don't Have A Point.

[Wilms]

23. Do you ever research?

A Look at Hillary (and Bill) Clinton’s Past in Haiti

Hillary Clinton might have some explaining to do before she can claim the top spot in the Democratic primary. Any pro-Hillary voters who prioritize moral plans for American foreign policy should probably look into the candidate’s past in Haiti.

The Pulitzer Center hosted journalist Jonathan M. Katz on June 22nd for a discussion about the Clintons’ influence and rather infamous legacy in Haiti and I was fortunate enough to be able to attend. It’s surprising how little the failures and destruction of Bill and Hillary Clinton’s presence in Haiti have been brought up so far. Hopefully by 2016 this topic will be making headlines.

http://africasacountry.com/2015/07/hillary-haiti/

So, that was good of you to bring up the subject. Read it and move beyond the meme and into reality.

[SusanCalvin]

95. That was extremely interesting. Thank you. nt

[Arazi]

74. Hillary supports cluster bombs

I see you (and every other Hillary supporter) are studiously ignoring this thread. Her sudden "compassion" on the Flint crisis smacks of hypocritical grandstanding while she's also supporting the use of cluster bombs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511140849

[myrna minx]

131. I really don't think you'll like what you find regarding the Clinton Foundaton and Haiti.

Oof. Remember YOU brought up Haiti.

[workinclasszero]

15. Waiting for the bernsplaining....

[Armstead]

20. Doesn;t need any -- It's self erxplanatory

But I'll give you a hint -- Political opportunism by exploiting a tragedy on Hillary's part.

A less obnoxious form of political opportunism by making a cameo on a comedy show on Bernie's part

[BlueCaliDem]

104. Yep. And there's PLENTY. The usual pivoting to "what has Hillary DONNNNE?!??!"

And, "But-but-but - CLINTON!!"

Fact remains, she's gone to Flint, to those people who need the headlines trained back on them and to show her support.

Bernie's on his celebrity tour. Maybe he can get Larry Davids' autograph while he's there?

Where are those infamous Bernie Revolutionaries? Why haven't they descended upon Flint, en masse, to support the people there?

[workinclasszero]

129. Where are those infamous Bernie Revolutionaries?

On reddit and DU most likely, waiting for the revolution to happen.

[BlueCaliDem]

133. If ever there was a golden opportunity to start a revolution and strengthen Bernie's candidacy, it's

now and in Flint.

With Flint being predominantly Black (racial makeup of the city according to the 2010 census was 37.4% White, 56.6% African American, 0.5% Native American, 0.5% Asian, 1.1% from other races, and 3.9% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.9% of the population ), this is a golden opportunity for Bernie to siphon African American support away from Hillary.

His BernFeelers could go, en masse - just as they did following Sanders around the nation - to Flint and begin their loud protests there to frighten those Republican pols into finally doing something. With their rumored numbers, these Revolutionists can fill the streets, bring cases of bottles of water, help their fellow American, and after Bernie finishes the taping of SNL, he can rush over and join them, picking up a megaphone in his wake to call out the injustice of horrible Republican governance.

So why haven't they? Why are they here and everywhere else kvetching about Hillary?

[Jackilope]

18. Bernie is our answer to fixing crumbling infrastructure

Instead of assuring Wall Street nothing will change, he has a vision and plan to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and rebuild the working class. Not hearing that from Hillary.

Greed got us here and there are more issues with water, with corruption than just Flint.

[asuhornets]

21. I agree

He is taking his supporters for a ride and they have jumped on the trained willingly.

[kath]

22. This OP is in serious contention for the Hilarious Hillarian of the Day Award. Strong work!

The hilarity increases along with the desperation this week.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

26. Ty, people do say I am a funny person. I am good at making people laugh. Nt

[kath]

42. But you didn't intend for the OP to be so comedic, did you?

just a frantic episode of straw-grasping.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

44. I can't control if you think the crisis in Flint is a laughing matter.

Hillary Clinton is taking is seriously, while Bernie Sanders is going for a few laugh on SNL.

[kath]

66. Where did I say that Flint situation is a laughing matter?

Yeah, NOWHERE.

Way to do the typical twisting, turning, deflecting.

What's hilarious is your pathetic grasping at straws, flinging crap at Bernie hoping that something might stick.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

77. Can you stop putting words in my mouth? Thank you. Nt

[Gene Debs]

116. You might say it's "Hillarious"! I think you're on to something, kath. Maybe there should be a

daily "Hillarity" spot, where we highlight the day's most absurdly desperate Hillary campaign move that's utterly tone-deaf, ham-fisted, and completely transparent to any sensible person.

[BainsBane]

28. He called for the Governor to resign

What more do you want?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

41. The Mayor of Flint and her aides said what Sanders did was not enough.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, has also fired shots at Michigan, calling for the resignation of Gov. Rick Snyder.

But Clinton’s attention has been deeper and more consistent, according to those close to Mayor Weaver.

“She’s the only one actually trying to help Flint,” said Shayne Hodges, a Flint father of three and friend of Mayor Weaver.

“Secretary Clinton has been in touch with the mayor personally and the two staffs have been in consistent contact,” Kristin Moore, the mayor’s communication director told MSNBC. “As far as I know,” she added, “Clinton is the only presidential candidate—Republican or Democrat—who has reached out.”

So, are you going to throw the mayor under the bus now?

[Iliyah]

56. The bullies that they are, yes, Mayor Weaver goes under the bus

and probably will get nasty FB responses. This is really a sad moment.

[BainsBane]

78. I was being sarcastic

Note the Hillary gif in my sig line.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

82. Sorry, I am on mobile. My apologies. Nt

[notadmblnd]

30. Oh really? Is she going to make Snyder resign?

Is she gonna dig the first shovel full of dirt for the laying of the new pipeline that she secured federal funds for? Perhaps she is going to deliver water filters house to house? Exactly what is she going to help with?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

80. The mayor of Flint said it was a bad idea to have the Governor resign.

Are yout going to throw her under the bus?

[notadmblnd]

83. Well she must have had reasons?

Or did she just throw it out there like you did?

on edit: I just checked, she said no such thing.

FLINT, MI -- Flint Mayor Karen Weaver says that contrary to some reports, she has not called for Gov. Snyder to step down for his role in the city's ongoing water crisis.

"It has come to our attention that some people are saying Mayor Weaver said "Governor Snyder should not resign." That is not true," reads the statement.

"To clarify, Mayor Weaver has stated that, "Governor Snyder must decide for himself whether he is going (to) step down," notes the statement and that it's "his call to make for the people."

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/01/flint_mayor_says_its_governors.html

[ProudToBeLiberal]

88. This should what the mayor and her aides said

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, has also fired shots at Michigan, calling for the resignation of Gov. Rick Snyder.

But Clinton’s attention has been deeper and more consistent, according to those close to Mayor Weaver.

“She’s the only one actually trying to help Flint,” said Shayne Hodges, a Flint father of three and friend of Mayor Weaver.

“Secretary Clinton has been in touch with the mayor personally and the two staffs have been in consistent contact,” Kristin Moore, the mayor’s communication director told MSNBC. “As far as I know,” she added, “Clinton is the only presidential candidate—Republican or Democrat—who has reached out.”

[notadmblnd]

96. She was not the only one trying to help Flint.

Rachael Maddow, Michael Moore and Jessie Jackson were all involved in attempting to help before HRC jumped in.

And it's great that they've been in contact, but what has she accomplished? The poison water is still flowing from the spigots. The people are still being charged for being poisoned. Wheres the calls to congress requesting they allocate funding to fix this Republican fuck up? Where's her calls for the Governor to resign? Tell me what she has accomplished in getting this resolved?

[DaveT]

114. Yes

Nt

[SamKnause]

32. Hillary has already made her appearance on SNL.

If she had not, you may have a point.

[AtomicKitten]

47. She was frolicking with Kate McKinnon on SNL.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

51. I'm glad you decided not to put me on ignore. It's better that we can have a good discussion. nt

[lostnfound]

35. Is she going to bring water? Then we could say she carries water for Flint!

How cool is that!

[SamKnause]

36. I have never read one post that points out that Hillary is unemployed

and running for the president of the United States of America.

Bernie is still doing his Senatorial duties, walking on picket lines,

and running for president.

Hillary appeared on SNL last year while campaigning for president.

Why is it wrong for Bernie to appear on SNL ???

[kath]

61. VERY good point.

[Empowerer]

84. Apparently Bernie has a different idea of what his "senatorial duties" are than most senators do

Since he does not seem to think it includes voting to help get a critical bill that would bring federal aid to Flint to the floor - since he skipped that vote in order to campaign and get ready for his SNL gig.

But Sanders was in good company. Cruz and Rubio didn't bother to show up to vote, either.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=2&vote=00017

[SusanCalvin]

106. Sigh....

I'm not going to dig any further into this bill after seeing the vote tally.

Voted down by a good margin, overwhelmingly by Democrats. Many yucky Rs and 4 Ds voting for it. The only ones who missed the vote are currently running for President.

In other words, the Ds seem to disagree with you about getting it to the floor, for whatever reason, and I'm quite sure Bernie made the correct judgment that it was a vote where his presence would not alter the outcome.

Did you think no one would check the link?

[bigwillq]

37. So...what you're saying is you won't be watching SNL?

[Empowerer]

38. I didn't see this earlier - I just posted an OP making a similar point

Amazing, isn't it?

Well, actually it's not. Nowadays, it's par for the course.

[kath]

67. Of course you did.

[Empowerer]

70. Thank you for your comment

[Cleita]

40. Hillary did SNL a couple of months ago when Flint was in full crisis.

The crisis started in 2014. Why has it taken her this long?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

49. Bernie is heading to NYC to do SNL; Hillary Clinton is heading to Flint. nt

[Cleita]

52. Flint has been in crisis since 2014. Seems to me she's a bit late in caring

about it.

[Empowerer]

101. Bernie's been in Congress for 35 years - what has HE done about it during his tenure?

[Cleita]

112. He's has repeatedly asked for Gov Snyders resignation as well as

addressed Congress about the situation, which they of course refused to do anything. He's one senator in fifty within a Senate that isn't filibuster proof.

[Duckhunter935]

60. she did SNL

After Rachel Maddow publicized it. I guess it was not politically expedient then. Let's see if she brings some juggs of water. She can afford a lot from her hundreds of millions in speaking fees.

[SusanCalvin]

92. Really.

It's not that I really mind if she goes, although the timing is interesting - it's the OP using it to (attempt to) smear Bernie.

[Cleita]

110. That was the sole purpose of the OP to smear Bernie

and frankly, it's just a big red herring having nothing to do with Hillary going to Flint better late than never or Bernie doing SNL which Hillary did late last year.

[Iliyah]

43. WTF?

Damn if you do, damn if you don't. Good for the major to invite her, at least some focus and much help in resolving the problem is forthcoming since the Gov don't give a shit.

Damn. And I don't see why people are criticizing the matter and laughing about it.

No wonder why many AA's prefer HRC, this thread just proved it.

[Cleita]

50. The crisis started in 2014 and she's just getting around to

caring now? Rachel has been reporting on it almost as long.

[MoonRiver]

45. Doesn't help him at all.

But, most importantly, it doesn't help the poor souls of Flint. We need boots on the ground there asap!

[cali]

48. And?

Oh, and so sorry, but the optics don't hurt him.

[Vinca]

53. I have to credit the Clinton campaign for doing something right for once.

No, not for going to Flint for any real purpose other than to promote her campaign, but for creating a world class political advertisement that I'm sure will run and run and run and run and run. Let's see. How many times has Hillary been on SNL vs. Bernie? This could backfire.

[jillan]

54. Campaigning at a disaster site. Classy.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

57. So, you didn't think it was appropriate for Barack Obama to go see the devastation of

Hurrican Sandy during the 2012 Presidential election? Wow...

[TwilightGardener]

59. He was President. Acting in his capacity.

[jillan]

64. He was the President!! It's a little different, ya think?

[kath]

69. Totally different situation - he was President. It's a shame that you are apparently incapable of

Seeing the difference. Smh.

[elias49]

105. Ooops.

[SusanCalvin]

141. Please, may I pile on here?

Thank you. Context is everything. Or it matters, at least.

[jeff47]

65. Heck of a job, Brownie! (nt)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

55. Photo op vs TV appearance.

[lostnfound]

63. Infrastructure comparison Bernie $1 Trillion vs Hillary $275 B

One of them recognizes the scale of the problems, the other trying to nibble at the edges. The public gets scraps.

In the future, gated communities will be safe zones and the rest is headed for a dystopia.

[pangaia]

68. It's like she wears a big red sticker on her forehead that says,

"I am going to Flint . because..... I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT !!!
PLEASE, PLEASE. MAKE ME PRESIDENT !!"

Bernie is going to SNL because.. he has a sense of humor, among other things.

[frylock]

73. And Obama is probably playing a round of golf.

What's your point?

[Uponthegears]

81. Two acting

jobs. At least one is up front about it.

[DefenseLawyer]

86. Hillary has never been on SNL

Oh sure, she's been asked scores of times, but she's spent every Saturday in a soup kitchen instead. She's an inspiration to us all.

[kath]

90. She is, she is SUCH an inspiration!

She's a current-day Mother Teresa!

[SusanCalvin]

143. Maybe so....?

Disclaimer: I'm no fan of Mother Theresa. Links upon request.

[lumberjack_jeff]

93. Goldman Sachs has a cafeteria? n/t

[Nanjeanne]

87. Can't wait to watch Bernie on SNL

I thought HRC was funny when she was on too!

[lumberjack_jeff]

91. Man bites dog - news at 11.

The inverse isn't news, it's an expectation.

[blm]

103. This is SO unnecessary. Let them both do their events without absurd comparisons.

Don't we get enough about the 'optics' bullshit from Republicans? DU is better than this.

[BlueCaliDem]

109. Hillary Clinton is doing what a presidential hopeful should be doing. Bernie is chasing celebrity.

But I'm certain his tens of thousands of vocal Revolutionaries are going to descend on Flint in 3...2...1

[Cleita]

121. Your answer is in post #115 n/t

[BlueCaliDem]

125. Ohhh...I get it. The key thing to do here is stay away, like Bernie, right? That'll help Flint

residents! Stay away and let them fend for themselves! *smh* Why didn't Hillary think of that!

Is that why Bernie's Revolutionaries are steering clear of Flint? To help them by making them help themselves?

[HooptieWagon]

113. Action? Is she picking up a shovel to lay new water pipes?

Or is she going to pose for photos with some Black people?

[Gene Debs]

115. How many times has Hillary Clinton appeared on SNL? I myself have lost count. And why is she

going to Flint now? The problem there didn't only just come to light. She's had all summer to do compassion-porn photo ops if she were really on fire to help the people of Flint. Although, given the mood of a lot of Flint's residents, she might not be doing herself any favors...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511156958

"Rolling up her sleeves and taking action." Please.

[Bread and Circus]

119. Using Flint as a campaign prop is taking action?

[Beacool]

120. I won't criticize Sanders for doing SNL.

On the other hand, it's pretty low of his supporters to bash Hillary for going to Flint at the invitation of the city's mayor.

Tough nuts if some of you don't like it.

[Cleita]

123. Well the OP should have thought of that when attempting to discredit

Bernie for having a little fun while Hillary was sitting in a big glass house and who also has has a little fun via SNL.

[SusanCalvin]

144. THIS^^^

I'm no fan of a small minority (I hope) of Bernie "supporters," but what is the OP except a (failed) smear?

[snagglepuss]

130. Dumb move by Hillary because it looks like she's doing it to show

Sanders up as its the same day Sanders is doing SNL. It's blatantly political and that will be noticed. It would have better optics had she gone when she first commented on it.

[Cleita]

132. ^this^

[malokvale77]

139. I guess you forgot about Hillary's stint on SNL.

I'm sure there were plenty tragedies in need of attention then. Including the very one she seems so concerned with now.

[Number23]

140. Is anybody actually still IN New Hampshire?

Or has everyone just written it off? Did the endless stream of pundits declaring its results fairly insignificant and inconsequential take effect?

[SusanCalvin]

145. Good question. nt

[polichick]

142. What was Bernie doing when Clinton did SNL?

[SidDithers]

146. DU rec for all kinds of reasons...nt

Sid