2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRUDE PUNDIT: Believe It or Not: You Can Support Bernie and Not Despise Hillary (and Vice-Versa)
The Rude Pundit is leaning towards Sanders in the primary because Sanders' views on shit more readily align with his. That's it. It's the simplest comparison in the world: "Who is most like me? Okay, they've got my vote." By saying that, the Rude Pundit will be accused of supporting a gun-loving freak who lives in a fantasy world, even if none of those things are remotely true. When he was leaning Clinton, he was accused of supporting a Wall Street shill who was just fuckin' skeevy, which, again, there is not a whole lot of proof for any of that. And if Clinton wins the Democratic nomination, he will support her and vote for her because the Rude Pundit is not a fucking idiot. He has no problem voting for Clinton because the alternative is not to vote, which gives more support to a Republican, and fuck that noise with a sharpened chainsaw.
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This is not to say that you can't find fault in things that Clinton or Sanders have done or voted on. Jesus Christ, they've both had long careers. Of course they're gonna do shit that pisses you off. While we're all handjobbing President Obama for the ACA signups and the unemployment rate, you still have to reconcile that with the TPP (or dismiss it and call anyone who mildly criticizes the president "racist" because you're just that special kind of asshole).
There are two fucking missions for whoever gets the Democratic nomination. First, prevent a Republican from getting into office. And we can argue until the cows come home, take a shit, and go to sleep about which polls prove which candidate can do that. But no matter what, you have to stop the Republicans from fucking this nation harder than Chris Christie on his wife's ass while she wears a Hillary mask on the back of her head.
And then the second mission is to take the Congress back, all of it, and it better be by a filibuster-proof majority. Otherwise, nothing is going to get done beyond executive orders and some foreign policy efforts.
Dispute each other, sweet BernieBots and HillaryBots (or Bernie Bros and Hillary...Harridans? What awful, sexist thing is it? It's all so goddamn stupid), but if you declare you despise the other candidate, you should ask who you're believing, especially when it comes to Clinton. You might be laying down in a bed of slime.
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)And the way she runs her campaign is exactly why she made me dislike her in 2008 and now in 2016. She plays victim while she plays strong woman. As a woman it's distasteful to me. She distorts and then claims she's the wounded one. She appears desperate to be President - not got me. But for herself. But I save my hate for really dangerous politicians.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)of the logic laid out in this article.
We have a moral responsibility to our progeny to vote AGAINST the greater evil.
mainer
(12,022 posts)and that means voting for whoever wins the Democratic nomination.
Doesn't mean my first choice will get the nomination, but whether it's Bernie or Hillary, he/she gets my vote.
It saddens me to see the rancor between their supporters. The nastier it gets, the harder it will be to come together for the GE.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Despite? No. Dislike? Pragmatic distrust of someone who changes what she says depending on who she is talking too? Wary suspicion? A thoughful person is unable to dismiss the reality of the situation.
We need someone who has a calling to lead regardless of the personal cost rather than someone who desperately wants to be President regardless of the price.
underpants
(182,829 posts)Thanks.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)thucythucy
(8,069 posts)"And if Clinton wins the Democratic nomination, he will support her and vote for her because the Rude Pundit is not a fucking idiot. He has no problem voting for Clinton because the alternative is not to vote, which gives more support to a Republican, and fuck that noise with a sharpened chainsaw. "
As a Bernie supporter I endorse this sentiment. Glad to see His Rudeness takes the same view.