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The Telecom Act of 1996 "A monstrous assault on democracy" (Original Post) gyroscope Feb 2016 OP
important post I wish they bring it up in the debates. fourcents Feb 2016 #1
You know who used to rant about this all of the time? Randi Rhodes. jillan Feb 2016 #2
+1000 nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #6
Absolutely one of the cornerstones of the blindness to real conditions created by the MSM. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #3
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #4
K&R senz Feb 2016 #5
Can't blame this in Hillary but it was one of Bill's worst gifts Armstead Feb 2016 #7
She puts her 8 years in the WH on her resume for President... Ino Feb 2016 #8
The Clintons have done enough damage to this world bigwillq Feb 2016 #9
I agree. No more Clintons. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #10
No more Clintons. +1 LWolf Feb 2016 #15
Blaming Clinton for the 1996 Act is like blaming the weatherman for the weather onenote Feb 2016 #11
Bullsh*t. What is it with you guys & the lying??? RiverLover Feb 2016 #14
Control yourself. onenote Feb 2016 #17
He pushed for that bill & said so. It was a crowning acheivement for him. RiverLover Feb 2016 #18
Lack of competition? onenote Feb 2016 #19
I actually work in the industry. RiverLover Feb 2016 #20
K & R. A disaster, yet another from the Nineties, good riddance. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #12
Republicans pretending to be Democrats RiverLover Feb 2016 #13
knr amborin Feb 2016 #16

jillan

(39,451 posts)
2. You know who used to rant about this all of the time? Randi Rhodes.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 02:50 AM
Feb 2016

It's kind of ironic that his action on this ended up hurting his wife.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. Can't blame this in Hillary but it was one of Bill's worst gifts
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 06:08 AM
Feb 2016

Havent seen any evidence that she was involved in it, but it stands out as one of the monumental exampkes of how bad Democratic Corporate Centrism has been.



Bernie was a ong those leading the fight against it. Once again he was proven right.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
8. She puts her 8 years in the WH on her resume for President...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:10 AM
Feb 2016

she and Bill touted their "two-for-one" deal during their campaign...

so yeah, I certainly feel comfortable including Hillary in her co-president's decisions.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
11. Blaming Clinton for the 1996 Act is like blaming the weatherman for the weather
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:00 AM
Feb 2016

The bill, which would have been worse without pushback from the administration, passed by overwhelmingly veto-proof margins.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. Bullsh*t. What is it with you guys & the lying???
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:00 AM
Feb 2016
Today I have signed into law S. 652, the "Telecommunications Act of 1996." This landmark legislation fulfills my Administration's promise to reform our telecommunications laws in a manner that leads to competition and private investment, promotes universal service and open access to information networks, and provides for flexible government regulation. The Act opens up competition between local telephone companies, long distance providers and cable companies; expands the reach of advanced telecommunications services to schools, libraries, and hospitals; and requires the use of new Vchip technology to enable families to exercise greater control over the television programming that comes into their homes.

~Bill Clinton


I guess that's why you gravitate towards Hillary, dishonesty attracts dishonest people.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
17. Control yourself.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

First, you don't and can't dispute that the bill passed by overwhelmingly veto proof margins.

Second, if you were honest enough to post Clinton's entire signing statement, you would see (1) that he was concerned enough about certain provisions to include language directing the FCC to retain ownership limits where possible and (2) you would learn something you apparently don't know -- that there were several good things that came out of the 1996 Act.

You know what bullshit lying is? It's saying that the dissemination of information in this country is controlled by six companies. Actually, there was a time when the dissemination of information was basically controlled by a handful of companies. In most markets when I was growing up, there were three national network news programs and maybe three daily newspapers. AM radio stations by and large read canned news reports. And while the rules allowing more national concentration of ownership of tv stations have been opened up, the claim (in one of the video clips in the OP) that Sinclair (whom I hate) is a monopoly can only be made by someone who has no fucking clue what a monopoly is. Sinclair doesn't own every tv station in the markets where it owns stations. It's stations are affiliated with different networks, so not every one of its stations broadcasts the same national news programs. And it owns stations in 79 out of 210 markets, which means that there are nearly 2 markets without a Sinclair station for every market that has a Sinclair station.

The reality is that with the growth of satellite, cable, and the Internet as alternatives to broadcast and print media, there are more sources of information today than at any point in our history. Undeniably.

Oh. And PS -- I'm a Bernie supporter who has maxed out his contributions to him. But that doesn't mean I buy nonsensical memes that twist the facts.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
18. He pushed for that bill & said so. It was a crowning acheivement for him.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

We can thank him for our high cable bills & the lack of competition.

They gave to his campaign, he paid them back.

That's the reality.

Its also a reality that companies like Verizon (who also has a stranglehold on us) is giving to Hillary now.


Meet Steve Elmendorf, one of the key players in Clinton’s $157 million campaign::

A savvy political operative who was once chief of staff to Democratic Majority Leader Dick Gephardt, Elmendorf now runs Subject Matter, a go-to Democratic lobbying firm for corporate interests, raking more than $10 million in fees last year. Among its top clients: Wall Street banks (Goldman Sachs and Citigroup), the casino industry (the American Gaming Association), telecoms (Verizon and Time Warner), tech firms (Facebook and Microsoft), agribusiness (Monsanto) and the NFL.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hillarys-financial-armada-233033648.html


I wonder what goodies she has in mind for them as a thank you (& a _you to US)

onenote

(42,714 posts)
19. Lack of competition?
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 01:09 PM
Feb 2016

In 1995 if I wanted multichannel television service with local broadcast stations, i had one choice: my local government franchised cable operator. Today, i can get that service from that same cable operator. Or from Dish. Or DirecTV. Or Verizon.

Now I'm wondering if you know what competition is.

Also, a funny thing about competition. In 1992, the only multichannel provider was cable tv. Congress, at the urging of the broadcast industry and the support of Democrats, passed a bill giving broadcasters "retransmission consent" rights -- the right to demand payment from cable operators for carrying the local signals. For a decade or so, there was a basic equilibrium at play: the local broadcaster needed the cable operator to reach viewers and the local cable operator wanted to be able to provide local broadcast stations to its subscribers. But as satellite and then telco-video competition emerged, the broadcasters figured out that they could force all multichannel video distributors to pay them big money to ensure that they had access to American Idol or the Super Bowl or other programming that viewers considered "must have." So the amount paid for broadcast programming went from $28 million (with an "m&quot in 2005 to over $6 billion (with a "b&quot last year.

Moreover, the same competition between cable, DBS, and telco-video has allowed non-broadcast programmers to jack up the prices they charge as well. If you are a cable operator competing for subscribers with Dish and DirecTV, you don't want to be the one that doesn't offer subscribers ESPN.

To top it off, back in 1992, everyone was concerned with vertical integration -- the fact that a substantial portion of the most popular non-broadcast networks (such as CNN, HBO, MTV etc etc) were owned by cable operators. Today, the only company with significant vertical integration of cable programming and cable systems is Comcast. Time Warner Inc, Viacom, and others have spun off their cable system properties. But that hasn't led to the most popular cable networks becoming "independent". Nope --now they're mostly vertically integrated with broadcasters: Disney, Fox, CBS. (Viacom and Time Warner Inc remain the exceptions - no broadcast properties or cable properties). And the 1996 Act had nothing to do with it -- there isn't anything in that legislation that changed the law with regard to the ownership of non-broadcast networks by broadcasters.

So if you want to know why your cable bill is going up, its' because the cost of programming is going up. That plus the billions invested in high speed data and telephone. You want to know what competition is? Its the fact that I can and do get landline phone service from my cable company and not from Verizon anymore. Its that I can get high speed data from Verizon or my cable company. It's that I get unlimited long distance service for next to nothing now, thanks in part to the availability of Skype as an alternative. And I can choose between Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile and others for my cell service and wireless Internet service.

Its truly awful. Sooooo much worse than in 1975. Not.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
20. I actually work in the industry.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 01:15 PM
Feb 2016

We are lucky if we have more than one choice for cable or internet where we live/work. They have areas assigned to them. And only them.

We all know this is true.

It shouldn't be this way.

I'm sorry, though I'm sure you won't mind, but I don't have any more time to spend on this today.

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