With Each Passing Day, the Iowa Caucus Results Get Shadier and Shadier

[lovuian]

https://www.yahoo.com/?fr=fptb-tyc

If you're keeping score at home, the Iowa caucus process passed ridiculous on Tuesday and it has kept going into whatever is to be found far beyond it. In Grinnell Ward 1, the precinct where elite liberal arts college Grinnell College is located, 19 delegates were awarded to Bernie Sanders and seven were awarded to Hillary Clinton on caucus night. However, the Iowa Democratic party decided to shift one delegate from Sanders to Clinton on the night and did not notify precinct chair J Pablo Silva that they had done so. Silva only discovered that this happened the next day, when checking the precinct results in other parts of the county. In the old days, when Democrats knew how to do politics right, ...

[SammyWinstonJack]

1. KnR

[restorefreedom]

2. here is another article about it

Report: Errors found in Democrats' Iowa caucus results; delegate count under review

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/02/05/Report-Errors-found-in-Democrats-Iowa-caucus-results-delegate-count-under-review/5571454719850/


here is the most chilling line:

state's Democratic chairwoman, Andy McGuire, said earlier this week that an audit would not be performed and that Clinton's win was assured.

[cali]

3. Corrupt Hillary acolyte. What a disgrace.

[restorefreedom]

5. i don't even think they care anymore how blatant they are. nt

[Matariki]

13. Yep. Because nobody running wants to be labeled 'sore loser'

And nobody with and power to do anything about it wants to be accused of being 'paranoid' or a 'conspiracy theorist'.

[restorefreedom]

25. yup. sigh. nt

[merrily]

28. Label Sanders a sore winner, then. I'm fine with that. Since when is a honest count too much to ask?

[Matariki]

45. I agree with you 100%

Past vote tampering has made me very cynical and depressed about our election process. People's unwillingness to do anything about it even more so.

[Betty Karlson]

46. This is all Clinton has left: Debbies and other corruptors.

She cannot be trusted and if she goes on like this she doesn't even deserve to be nominated anymore. This is behaviour worthy of a Republican.

[RiverLover]

4. It's HER TURN!

To hell with honest democratic voting. It's HER TURN.

[restorefreedom]

6. i guess OUR turn will have to wait ....again. nt

[RiverLover]

8. It's getting old, restore.

Really fucking old.

GO Bernie!!!

[restorefreedom]

9. yes, it is. but i think our angst is felt my many....#feelthebern! nt

[merrily]

29. +! I can remember when the possibility of a dishonest count was offensive to DUers.

[cui bono]

16. Isn't that the one who has the Hillary2016 license plate?

[restorefreedom]

26. yup. no favoritism there at al., nosiree. nt

[CharlotteVale]

7. K&R

[OrwellwasRight]

10. Democratic party operatives

fixing results on her behalf, but she's, you know, *not* part of the establishment. Riiiiiiight...

[retrowire]

11. oh ffs.

This is out of hand.

[antigop]

12. Did you see this video?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280111120

[99th_Monkey]

14. Wow! I had not seen that. thanks. That is very very telling.

who knew Morning Joe would spill the beans on the Clinton
Machine's dirty dealings in Iowa??

[tex-wyo-dem]

19. Bernie had been on MJ a couple of times...

In the last few weeks, and both times Joe was very respectful of Bernie...they were actually very good conversations.

I think JS secretly admires Bernie.

[840high]

15. Thank you. Makes me sick.

[CharlotteVale]

17. No wonder Tweety's amping up his rabid dog act. He knows.

[merrily]

30. I love Schmidt's line: "Shady as hell" and the Des Moines Register's editorial

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/

[AgingAmerican]

18. This explains Hillary's quick exit from Iowa

[antigop]

43. Yes, I think so. And Andrea Mitchell said something like, "This is the most extraordinary thing

I've seen."

I"ll try to find the video link.

eta:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1123738

Andrea Mitchell: "It was the most extraordinary thing I've seen in a long time."

[dae]

20. That would explains why she made her victory speech so early.

And everyone else is scratching their heads asking wth is she doing.

[Hulk]

21. Couldn't care less.

Seriously. The point has been made. Bernie soared and HRC sunk. It doesn't matter what the final tally was. They were both strong, unlike the clown car.

Bernie is on the move, and Hillary is sliding and hoping for the minority vote to save her ship.

Iowa is insignificant. Sorry folks; it's not typical America.

[aspirant]

23. So we can put you in the PRO Election and voter fraud crowd

[Hulk]

53. You can put me anywhere you like..

Your opinion and twisted logic doesn't bother me one bit. Love your type who jump out and attack others with faulty logic.

I know where I am and have a pretty good idea where you are coming from. Tangent logic.

[fbc]

22. I don't think it can make much of a difference

[aspirant]

24. So we can put you in the Pro Election and voter fraud crowd.

[metroins]

27. Or just a realist

Iowa caucuses are a mess, it's smarter to just move on.

Either pro Clinton or Sanders, we're talking a few delegates. Just move on.

[merrily]

31. Democrats have "moved on" for the Clintons more than enough already and Enough is Enough.

If it were Bernie instead of Hillary, your response would likely be different.

[metroins]

33. No it wouldn't

I have watched the past election mishaps and dwelling on the past never works.

You start a big mess over a small number, it hurts the party. Nobody looks forward, everybody looks back and it gives the GOP ammunition.

If it mattered, sure....but a few delegates either way doesn't.

Positives vs. Negatives.

[merrily]

37. Rigging a primary hurts the party. I'm not worried about Republicans. They always have

ammunition, even if they make it up. For that reason, IMO, nothing is more stupid than allowing what Republicans say or might say to govern the conduct of Democrats.

[metroins]

38. It's not "rigged"

It's an inefficient, ill equipped, backwards, Iowa caucus.

You'd essentially have to redo the entire thing and it would still be a mess. This is what happens when we don't change something for 40 years.

Revisiting Iowa will not help anybody.

Focus on the future.

[merrily]

39. Sorry, the evidence is not pointing to innocent mistakes.

[metroins]

40. I disagree

[merrily]

41. No kidding.

[bvar22]

48. Look away...Look Away!!!!

Pay no attention to the man behind the screen!!!!!

[metroins]

49. Seems a little paranoid. Nt.

[bvar22]

50. You know,

there are thousands of conspiracies every single day. Every time a meeting is held in a Corporate Boardroom is a conspiracy. Every time politicians meet with lobbyists is a conspiracy.
Sometimes, paranoia is a rational response to a repressive system,
especially after the Snowden revelations.

[merrily]

32. In the pro-Hillary crowd, anyway.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/~metroins

[metroins]

34. Thanks for posting my profile?

There's a link to it by clicking my name.

[merrily]

35. Correct. It's public info, as is your journal.

[metroins]

36. Just seems redundant to post a link

You could have at least copied and pasted info for people.

[CentralMass]

42. The Iowa Party boss holding the votes has an HRC license plate

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/iowa-party-boss-holding-onto-contested-vote-totals-drives-car-with-the-license-plate-hrc-2016

"The state Democratic Party chair who refuses to release raw vote totals from Monday’s razor-thin Iowa caucuses is a longtime Hillary Clinton supporter who even drives a car that officially displays her support for the presidential candidate.

Dr. Andrea “Andy” McGuire served as co-chairwoman of Clinton’s 2008 campaign in Iowa, and the Des Moines Register reported the license plate on her Buick Enclave reads: “HRC 2016.” "

[Vote2016]

44. I wish the media would shine more light on this

[Betty Karlson]

47. Which part of the establishment would you like to see the light first?

They are all in the bag for Bush and Clinton. Wall Street is fine with either of those.

[hifiguy]

51. The Clintons are what the Clintons are.

Everyone should know that by now. By Any Means Necessary is their motto.

[Punkingal]

52. +1000