Quinnipiac Poll Showing Sanders Closing gap is crap, totally biased!

[youceyec]

Its an outlier!

PPP poll shows clinton with 21 point lead. Both polls are after Iowa. Pretty much cover same days.

Q poll is notoriously biased against HC. Just look at their Iowa poll. They were only polling firm that at the very end showed Sanders winning.

PPP poll:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_20416.pdf

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Polls showing your candidate to be ahead are biased and crap.

Polls showing my candidate to be ahead are totally accurate.

Isn't that how that works?

[HerbChestnut]

2. And PPP has consistently been biased against Bernie.

The point of these polls is to note the trends. Bernie is gaining on Hillary across the country.

[Cali_Democrat]

11. Quinnipiac had Bernie winning Iowa. PPP had Hillary winning Iowa.

Hillary won Iowa.

Which one is more accurate?

You do the math.

[kcjohn1]

14. PPP had Clinton +9

Q had Bernie +3. Result was 0.2+ Clinton. Who is closer?

Q could actually be accurate b/c popular vote was not released. We were told before Bernie voters were concentrated thus he could lose delegate count even if he won the popular vote.

[HerbChestnut]

26. Cali, that's not how statistics works.

[Iliyah]

3. K & R

My thoughts, PP has been pretty accurate. Q lean GOP.

[cali]

8. What? I've never heard or read that Quinnipiac leans R. Link.

[kcjohn1]

17. PPP was among least accurate

They were 9 points off in Iowa. Q was off 3.

[Bjorn Against]

4. You do realize that Quinipiac's polls were accurate in Iowa while PPP's were not?

Quinnipiac's Iowa poll was within the margin of error of the final results, PPP's poll showed Hillary with a eight point lead which was inaccurate.

Quinnipiac is a more accurate pollster than PPP.

[Live and Learn]

5. +10,000 nt

[litlbilly]

6. PPP is correct the record, David Brock, so that cancels that out. Try again

[AtomicKitten]

7. Well, that explains it. Gravis is also crap polling.

[litlbilly]

10. Gravis is even worse, you are correct

[reformist2]

9. Sorry to break it to you, but the Reuters/Ipsos national poll today said the race was tied as well.

Also, the PPP polls are suspect. They had Hillary +8 in Iowa the day before the caucus. Oops.

[litlbilly]

12. They dont want to read those polls, they dont put Hillary up by 40.

[Cali_Democrat]

15. quinnipiac had Bernie winning Iowa, yet Hillary won.

Oops!

[Bjorn Against]

22. Quinnipiac's poll showed Bernie with 49% of the vote in Iowa

He got 49% of the vote just as Quinnipiac predicted. They did not call a winner, their poll showed a very close race and it was a very close race which ended within Quinnipiac's margin of error.

PPP on the other hand did not predict a close race, they showed Hillary winning by eight points which was outside the margin of error.

Quinnipiac was right about Iowa and PPP was wrong.

[MrMickeysMom]

23. You call that a win?

I don't.

[last1standing]

32. You keep posting this and you keep being proved wrong. Is that embarrassing for you?

Or is NoHope Hillary's lack of decency and shame catching amongst her supporters?

[Metric System]

19. The Ipsos poll has African Americans at 7% and included Republicans and Independents.

[Dawson Leery]

20. We must not rest.

Take nothing for granted.

[BlueStateLib]

33. Ipsos/Reuters Poll (February 4):

Ipsos/Reuters Poll (February 4): Core Political Approval
Thursday, February 04, 2016

Democratic Primary

Hillary Clinton remains solidly in the lead among Democrats nationwide, with 54% of Dem registered voters.
•Sanders (39%) remains in second place among Democratic voters.

General Election Matchups

In hypothetical 2-way general election matchups between Trump or Cruz vs. Sanders or Clinton, the Democrats are leading all matchups.
•Clinton performs the strongest against either Republican at +8 vs. Trump and +10 vs. Cruz among all registered voters.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7132

[BainsBane]

13. My response to these polls is always the same

We shall have to see what the polling averages show.

However, no one should be lulled into complacency by polls. This will be a tough primary fight. Bernie has tons of money and is mounting a formidable opposition. It's up to all of us who support Hillary to get out and volunteer for the campaign.

[Motown_Johnny]

21. Maybe you could volunteer to serve drinks at her meeting with Bain Capital.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-postpones-fundraiser-financial-services-218708#ixzz3zAA1rv16

^snip^


Clinton postpones another financial-services fundraiser
Under fire from Sanders, she delays events hosted by leaders of BlackRock, Bain Capital affiliate.


The postponed fundraisers are an issue for Hillary Clinton who is struggling to match Bernie Sanders’ powerful grassroots fundraising.


By BEN WHITE 02/03/16 06:27 PM EST

NEW YORK -- Hillary Clinton has postponed another fundraiser with financial services executives amid heavy criticism from rival Bernie Sanders that she is too close to Wall Street.

Clinton will no longer attend an event in Boston scheduled for Friday that was to be hosted by Jonathan Lavine, managing director of Bain Capital affiliate Sankaty Advisors, sources close to the matter said.


The event has not been canceled but will now be held sometime after the New Hampshire primary, which takes place Feb. 9. It is the second such postponement in the last two weeks. The Clinton campaign last week said a New York City event that was set for Thursday with executives from investment management firm BlackRock would now be held Feb. 16th.

[BainsBane]

28. I door knock and phone bank.

Maybe you should ask Bernie about the drinks at Abbey Rockefellers house? Or how he and Jane liked their fundraising soirées on Martha's Vinyard and Palm Beach with reps from Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html

[restorefreedom]

30. its not an opposition

its a campaign

an opposition presumes the one being opposed has an inherent right to the position being sought.

you may not have meant it that way, but some actually believe that. just wanted to clarify for those folks that it is a legimate campaign. its not an opposition, its not an insurgency, its not a rebellion.

its a campaign.

have a nice evening

[BainsBane]

31. It presumes no such thing

op·po·si·tion
ˌäpəˈziSH(ə n/
noun
resistance or dissent, expressed in action or argument.
"there was considerable opposition to the proposal"
synonyms: resistance, hostility, antagonism, enmity, antipathy, objection, dissent, disapproval, criticism, demurral; More
a group of adversaries or competitors, especially a rival political party or athletic team.
noun: the opposition
synonyms: opponents, opposing side, other side, other team, competition, opposers, rivals, adversaries; More
the principal political party opposed to the one in office.
noun: Opposition; noun: the Opposition; noun: the opposition

The term political opposition is an exceedingly common phrase. Your free association is not a dictionary of the English language.

You're quite right it isn't an insurrection or a revolution, it's a political campaign for a member of the political elite who seeks to rise to the head of the political establishment from its seat in the Oval Office.

[restorefreedom]

35. the way the m$m has portrayed it

as an insurrectionist campaign, they seem to have a different view. but i wanted to make sure to exclude you, since i did not think you meant it in that way. it annoys me that the chris matthews's of the world see it that way, though

cheers

[Motown_Johnny]

16. Probably an outlier. PPP has been very favorable to Clinton though.

PPP had her winning Iowa by 8 just a couple days before the caucus. Clearly they were wrong.


Nobody should freak out over one poll. We are just now starting to see the full impact from Iowa. Then it will take a few more for the impact from the debate. Then more for the impact from the New Hampshire vote that hasn't even happened yet.


Things will look different in a week, so lets not freak out over one poll.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

18. Heh. Oh wait, you're serious? nt

[reformist2]

24. Let's be nice. I honestly think Hillary fans are having a rough time of it.

I think they know something is wrong.

[Uncle Joe]

25. Do you trust Five Thirty Eight?

Because they give Quinnipiac University a B+ rating and your PPP poll a B-.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/


Thanks for the thread, youceyec.

[youceyec]

27. No

I dont trust 538 this cycle. They have been wrong just as much as anyone lately.

[merrily]

29. While your "crap" epithet is certainly convincing,

analyzing the methodology and/or track record/reputation of Quinnipiac polls might be far more convincing. Just a suggestion.

Most polls showed Hillary handily defeating Sanders in Iowa. That didn't happen. What does that make those polls?

[HooptieWagon]

34. Was Q biased against Hillary when it showed her leading by 30 in Dec?

Or was it a good poll then?