SEC Primary: Clinton is dominating Georgia 63.3% to 21.5% (+41.8%)

[Godhumor]

Has the support of 77% of African American voters.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/02/05/wsb-tv-poll-donald-trumps-lead-in-georgia-deflates-hillary-clinton-still-cruises-here/

[litlbilly]

1. low information voters apparently

[cali]

2. No one but Hillary fans say that. Congrats.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

4. Uhh what?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511124788

[leftofcool]

3. So those AAs is Georgia just don't know anything?

Please, help out all the good Black folks in Georgia by splainin' to them why if they vote for Hillary they are low information.

[Live and Learn]

5. Nobody claimed it was just AAs. nt

[pnwmom]

36. The majority of Dems in Georgia are non-white.

In the state census in 2010, only 56% overall were white, and the majority of whites vote Repub. Minority voters dominate the Democratic party.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zac-mccrary/sweet-georgia-blue_b_3385459.html

[Live and Learn]

39. And?? Your claim was that someone said only AA's were low information voters in South Carolina.

Nobody said that. The claim was that South Carolinians of all races and all parties are overall low information voters.

Nothing you have said disproves that theory.

[pnwmom]

40. If that is true how do you explain the fact that white Georgia voters are more likely

to support Bernie than black voters are?

Why is it that only black voters are low info voters in Georgia, but not white voters?

Isn't it possible that black voters have access to the same info as white voters, but just prefer Hillary?

[Live and Learn]

41. Trump and Hillary leading is proof enough for me. nt

[Live and Learn]

42. How about you give me a serious issue oriented reason for anyone preferring Hillary?

[pnwmom]

43. Proof enough of what? It doesn't explain why Bernie has higher support

among white voters in Georgia than he does among minorities.

White people like Trump, too.

[Live and Learn]

46. That wasn't the claim to which you originally responded but I think I can answer that too.

African Americans in South Carolina are significantly poorer than whites. They don't have time to pay attention to politics when they are barely able to afford basic comforts.

So the answer is, they still don't know Bernie and if they find out about him, they will turn in droves because they are not stupid and they know Hillary is not really on their side. The only thing Hillary has on her side in South Carolina is the short time frame.

[pnwmom]

47. Do you have a link to data showing that Bernie gets more support

from well educated and middle class black people?

Millions of Deltas might disagree with you.

[Live and Learn]

48. Do you have a link showing I ever said that? Quite certain you don't since I never did.

If you are going to continue just making shit up, there really is no further use in answering you.

[pnwmom]

50. It's the only logical conclusion to draw from your statement that

black people in SC don't support Bernie because they're poorer than white people, or they're too busy working to inform themselves, or whatever you were trying to say. White people work hard, too, and yet they are supporting Bernie in greater numbers.

This is what you said:

African Americans in South Carolina are significantly poorer than whites. They don't have time to pay attention to politics when they are barely able to afford basic comforts.

If that explains the disparity, then non-poor African Americans should be supporting Bernie in the same numbers that white voters do. And yet they haven't been. Not so far, anyway.

[Live and Learn]

52. So, you don't? Of course not. I don't care what you infer. Post truths or cease posting. nt

[speaktruthtopower]

57. There's so much deceit...

that we're all low information voters.

[Iliyah]

7. Yep, AA's are dumb unless they vote for BS.

[John Poet]

8. To a casual visitor who doesn't understand the inside baseball here,

you would look as if you mean that.

So how about we knock it off.

[uponit7771]

24. No... it's stockholm syndrome or some shit

[uponit7771]

23. PoC went to Hillary by 25% above Sanders after 3 months of campaiging in IA, they LIVs too?

[BlueCaliDem]

28. That must've stung him something awful.

[Beacool]

27. Rush, is that you?

[DCBob]

60. Clueless comment.

[litlbilly]

6. Those numbers will change when Georgia meets Bernie, mark my words

[NanceGreggs]

26. Will it be anything like ...

... the diner scene in "When Harry Met Sally"?

I just picture all those Georgia voters suddenly "feelin' the Bern", while nearby patrons declare, "I'll have what they're having."

It could happen, ya know. Really - it could.

[uponit7771]

29. Like they did in IA where Sanders spent 3 months!? He lost the PoC vote to HRC by 25%

[pnwmom]

37. Can you explain why in Georgia his support is so much higher among white voters

than non-white?

How come non-white voters are "low info voters" in your opinion? Why do you reject the idea that non-white Georgia voters have just as much info as the white voters , but just evaluate it differently?

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

9. Ugh... IA, NH, SC, NV, GA

I can't take it!

Let's get to the good part, already: NY, CA, IL

[basselope]

10. So she lost almost 20 points since the last poll.. NICE!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Res ipsa loquitur

So she lost almost 20 points since the last poll.. NICE!

WSB Landmark Poll 2/4 HRC 63% SBS 21%
WSB Landmark Poll 8/5 HRC 56% Sbs 11%

[basselope]

16. Too old.. look at more recent polls plz.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I compared the polls by the same pollster which are the only valid comparison.

In any case there are no polls from the Peach State that show a 20 point movement.

If they exist I am sure you will cite them.

[basselope]

20. Not that far apart.

Most recent had her up by 57 points

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/02/exclusive-poll-georgia-wants-trump-president/74819370/

Bernie is gaining ground.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Fourtten points is not twenty.

So she lost almost 20 points since the last poll.. NICE!

At this rate he will pass her some time around Easter of 2017.

[basselope]

22. yes it is with moe

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. With MOE could be 25

[basselope]

61. Could be, but almost 20 is more accurate.

The point is it is a huge improvement for Sanders

[JDPriestly]

34. Do those polls suggest that either Democrat can win in November in Georgia?

I suspect they don't. It is a very red state.

[pnwmom]

44. It's not such a red state anymore. It's verging on a swing state,

since by 2010 it was only 56% white and has even more minorities now. Minority voters tend to vote Democratic.

[DemocraticSocialist8]

12. Something smells fishy about this poll...

Bernie NEVER losses young voters by that margin. There's a high number of Undecided voters too. Also...a Rosetta Stone poll? Lol

[Recursion]

13. He's also done absolutely nothing in the South yet

And it's going to be pretty brutal for him there. That's where the most conservative Democrats in the party are (both black and white), which is kind of a double whammy for him.

[DemocraticSocialist8]

14. That doesn't explain him losing the Youth vote like that...

That's why I said the poll seems fishy.

[Recursion]

15. Why not?

Even young Democrats in the south are conservative compared to northern and western Democrats.

[lunamagica]

55. See post #53

[JDPriestly]

33. The South is most likely going to vote Republican in November regardless which candidate

we nominate.

We should nominate the candidate most likely to take swing states. We shall see who that will be.

[Recursion]

35. And that would be an interesting idea, if our primary weighted swing states extra

However, a Democrat in Mississippi or Massachusetts has as much say as one in North Carolina, as puzzling as that seems from a practical standpoint.

[pnwmom]

38. Georgia is in the process of turning into a swing state, with only 56% whites in 2010.

And non-whites vote very heavily for Democrats.

This article was written 2 and a half years ago.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zac-mccrary/sweet-georgia-blue_b_3385459.html

In the summer of 2013, Georgia might not seem an obvious target for the next Democratic nominee for President, yet the same factors of non-white and metropolitan growth are largely what caused Virginia and North Carolina to enter the swing-state lexicon in 2008. African-American and Hispanic growth outpacing white growth and the increased footprint of Northern Virginia and the Research Triangle metro areas thrust those two Mid-Atlantic states to the top of both parties' target lists in 2008 and 2012.

This data points to Georgia being poised to enter that rarefied political air of a swing state over the next couple of cycles. Of course, Georgia's continued drift toward Democrats isn't guaranteed: the demographic trends in Georgia could slow or reverse, and African-American voters could revert to lower turnout rates and Democratic margins once Obama is no longer on the ballot. But at the same time, things may look even better for Democrats in Georgia than we've outlined. Our analysis doesn't take into account the potential for a non-Obama Democrat to attract more Southern white votes. We also assumed demographic trends will stay constant, when in fact in the last decade Georgia's white growth slowed while its non-white growth rate accelerated.

While Georgia Democrats have struggled in recent statewide elections, Democrats have a solid bench of rising stars including Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, Congressman John Barrow, state legislators Jason Carter, Stacey Abrams, Scott Holcomb, and non-profit founder/CEO Michelle Nunn, among others. (Disclosure: Kasim Reed and Jason Carter are Anzalone Liszt Grove clients). Such Democratic candidates will be well-positioned to run for Governor or Senate as the state's political hue shifts from red to purple. And while the Atlanta-media market is very expensive, a statewide television buy in Georgia is roughly the cost of a North Carolina buy and 20 percent less expensive than a statewide buy in Virginia. A Georgia buy is also just one-third the cost of a statewide broadcast buy in the Lone Star State. As Georgia's political winds shift, Democrats should be able to field strong candidates with the ability to marshal the necessary resources to communicate with voters in a robust way over the next decade and beyond.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

18. Bernie Sanders is doing well with young white liberals.

Have you noticed that he has not visited historically black colleges in his campaign? There is a reason. Young African Americans, especially young black women overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton.

So, when you hear about Bernie's support from young people like in Iowa, they are talking about young white liberals. Once the campaign leaves Iowa and NH, the campaign will be entering states more favorable to Hillary Clinton.

[winter is coming]

19. You're behind the times on your talking points.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251995573

[uponit7771]

25. What's behind the time is the results of this tour, he's touring with Bigga and West... I would like

... to know the responses of students who are aware of the vile racialized things these people have said about Obama

[ProudToBeLiberal]

30. Tell me what's missing from these pictures of his tour in SC

Here's a picture of another event

?w=458

Can you tell me what's missing?

[winter is coming]

31. OMG, Bernie's talking to white people!

Sure sign that it's impossible for him to have or gain POC supporters! We is doomed!!!



I know it's an article of faith among Hillary supporters that the AA community is a monolith that will support her, but that may not be true. Sanders has a lot of campaigning yet to do.

[lunamagica]

53. Because now many, many of those young voters are PoC. They may feel differently than their

white peers

[JDPriestly]

32. Does anyone seriously think that nominating Clinton will mean that Georgia votes for her

in the general election?

I think we should have a 50-state strategy. But we are going to have to work very hard to get a same-old, same-old candidate like Hillary elected in the general election in a red state like Georgia.

Bernie's economic policies might draw enough Republican or Independent voters to come out and give Democrats a win in Georgia in November.

But Hillary's same-as-the-the-current-policies policies will not move many people from the Republican column to the Democratic one. Won't inspire many bored independents either.

I just don't think that will happen.

Hillary may win the primary in Georgia, but not the general election. Bernie might not win the general election in that state either, but he has a better chance than Hillary because at least he has some new, relevant solutions to offer to people's problems.

[pnwmom]

45. Bill Clinton carried Georgia and he will be campaigning down there for her.

And Georgia has many more minority voters now than it did when Clinton ran. And they heavily vote for Democrats, not Republicans.

I think Georgia's in play, depending on who the Repubs run and the turnout of Democrats.

[Live and Learn]

58. Not gonna happen for Hillary. nt

[bowens43]

51. Georgia? Why doesn't that surprise me?

[Iliyah]

54. Like NH?

[lunamagica]

56. K&R!

[DCBob]

59. This is a good example of Bernie's Achille's Heel.

A diverse state.

[NurseJackie]

63. Oooo ... Achille's Heel. Yikes!

Ya know... a little Tinactin spray should clear that right up.






Note to Jury: It's a joke for Pete's sake!

[workinclasszero]

62. WOW! Hillary has the SUPPORT of 77% of African American VOTERS..

in GEORGIA!!!

Cmon March 1st!!!