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Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:09 PM Feb 2016

Hypothetically speaking just to clear a few things up in my own mind. IF say the powers

That be,used super delegates and shady vote counting arrangements to guarantee their favored candidate the nomination.
And the independents and some liberal democrats were offended or insulted enough to stay home in the general election.
And that lack of support plus the hate motivating the right to get out the vote against the Democratic candidate resulted in The Donald winning the presidency.

Whose fault would that BE?

I say the fault lies with the powers that be and their preferred candidate.

[/b]What do you think and WHY?

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Hypothetically speaking just to clear a few things up in my own mind. IF say the powers (Original Post) Vincardog Feb 2016 OP
Let go of the conspiracies would be my best advice. boston bean Feb 2016 #1
That is what went through my head. metroins Feb 2016 #3
The big thing to worry about in the GE is whether Bernie fans will decide to sit DanTex Feb 2016 #2
Few of them will. Bernie will lead all of us to heal the wounds and be "realistic" about what's best JudyM Feb 2016 #6
Bernie isn't going to have to "heal the party" ErisDiscordia Feb 2016 #9
I can not see any good to anyone on the liberal side of electing a Republican president. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #4
If the primary voters choose Bernie, he will win the nomination emulatorloo Feb 2016 #5
Where would the fault lie in my scenario? Something has got to explain the losses of the Democratic Vincardog Feb 2016 #7
Sorry not clear on your question? emulatorloo Feb 2016 #11
It is clearly stated. Vincardog Feb 2016 #12
I am still not sure I am answering the right thing but here is a reply. emulatorloo Feb 2016 #13
Generally speaking that may be true. Vincardog Feb 2016 #16
Thats an easy one, DWS litlbilly Feb 2016 #15
I agree Vincardog Feb 2016 #17
While I am not going to speculate seriously, ErisDiscordia Feb 2016 #8
Reagan had a Democratic congress EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #10
Trump would have a Tea Bagger Congress ErisDiscordia Feb 2016 #14
And what happens if Martians come to abduct Sanders? mythology Feb 2016 #18
Then we will have proof that we are not the only life in the universe. And that the Martians Vincardog Feb 2016 #19
Any other opinions out there? Vincardog Feb 2016 #20

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. The big thing to worry about in the GE is whether Bernie fans will decide to sit
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

out the election out of spite. If that doesn't happen, we have president Hillary. And if it does, then those Bernie fans share the blame.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
6. Few of them will. Bernie will lead all of us to heal the wounds and be "realistic" about what's best
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:18 PM
Feb 2016

for the country.
He will also without a doubt emphasize the continued importance of every vote, and activism in turning over congress to the maximum extent.

 

ErisDiscordia

(443 posts)
9. Bernie isn't going to have to "heal the party"
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

He has bipartisan and independent voters at his back as well as his base. We just have to get him the nomination. The disaffected can all go PUMA, and it will make just as much difference this time as it did last time.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. I can not see any good to anyone on the liberal side of electing a Republican president.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:16 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe you could point out some of the advantages.

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
5. If the primary voters choose Bernie, he will win the nomination
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:16 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton super delegates switched to Obama when it became clear voters wanted him.

As to your other concern, Liberal Democrats do not sit home and enable the likes of Donald Cruz Rubio take the presidency.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
7. Where would the fault lie in my scenario? Something has got to explain the losses of the Democratic
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

Offices since the democrats running as "Not as bad as the GOP".

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
13. I am still not sure I am answering the right thing but here is a reply.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

Dems reliably come out to vote in Presidential elections. Most of our losses come in midterms because for some reason we don't take midterms as seriously as R's do.

 

ErisDiscordia

(443 posts)
8. While I am not going to speculate seriously,
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

just how much trouble could the Donald cause? He would have to buckle down and work--or hire a bunch of eager beavers. It would be like Reagan, all over again.

Now Reagan had a whole team of handlers before he even started running, and the BFEE took over through Poppy Bush when he entered the White House. Does the Donald have any such superstructure? I don't think so. So he'd be that much further behind from Day 1.

I don't know if his finances are sufficiently deranged so that the BFEE could fasten onto him, and pull his Presidential strings. I don't know much about Trump at all, none of us do.

It might be worth a look-see. Maybe the alternative would scare a few unicorn-believers straight.

I truly do not know why Trump wants to be President. I'm not sure he does, either, other than the glitz and glam and perceived power. He's a shallow man, with shallow goals.

And if Trump truly had Palin running as his VP, there aren't enough idiots in the nation to vote for them.

No, I suspect Trump will bow out, suitably compensated, and Rubio, the puppet of choice, ushered into the nomination. The PTB still have the $$$ and the pull in the GOP.

And Sarah will have to go back to the tundra, where she belongs.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
10. Reagan had a Democratic congress
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

Trump could do a shit load of damage if the Repubs maintain control of both houses.

In any case, Rubio is more likely to get the nomination in my opinion. Not that he's any better than Trump.

 

ErisDiscordia

(443 posts)
14. Trump would have a Tea Bagger Congress
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016

who haven't been able to organize lunch, let alone anything else. And Bernie's revolution is not going to disappear if he's not the nominee...he will have coat tails, regardless. There are no sure things this time around. Anything can happen, and probably will.

I'm just hoping that past performance is a good indicator of future results, when it comes to reruns.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
19. Then we will have proof that we are not the only life in the universe. And that the Martians
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

Recognize a true leader.

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