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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:24 PM Feb 2016

Bernie's answer on faith. This is worth bookmarking. We should all live up to this.

Six days ahead of the New Hampshire primary, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Wednesday night opened up about his personal life and background, telling voters at a televised town hall that faith is "a guiding principle in my life, absolutely it is.

"Everybody practices religion in a different way," Sanders, who is Jewish, said at the CNN town hall in Derry, New Hampshire. "I would not be here tonight, I would not be running for president, if I didn't have very strong religious and spiritual feelings."

He explained his spirituality this way:

"I believe that as a human being, the pain that one person feels -- if we have children who are hungry in America, elderly people who can't afford their prescription drugs -- that impacts you, and that impacts me....My spirituality is that we are all in this together."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-calls-faith-a-guiding-principle-in-my-life/

I couldn't agree more!!
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Bernie's answer on faith. This is worth bookmarking. We should all live up to this. (Original Post) jillan Feb 2016 OP
Thats one hell of a good answer to a potential trap question. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #1
+1. It was direct, simple, and heart-felt. winter is coming Feb 2016 #2
How do you argue with that? It's my belief too Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #16
But what does that have to do with hordes of people giving you money because gawd says valerief Feb 2016 #3
For You... WillyT Feb 2016 #4
...... jillan Feb 2016 #8
Bernie represents UglyGreed Feb 2016 #5
+1. JudyM Feb 2016 #12
It's called trust. I've never felt this way about any politician. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #22
I think I'm hypnotized by your Anna K gif demwing Feb 2016 #35
I have to see it every time I post. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #41
To Anna! demwing Feb 2016 #42
Absofuckinglutely! Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #43
I thought that was one of the best answers of the night. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #6
That was a beautiful answer. Punkingal Feb 2016 #7
He also said merrily Feb 2016 #9
Empathy. enigmatic Feb 2016 #10
Yes. It's simply empathy, wrapped around strong morality of the Golden Rule, with the FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #25
One of the npr programs was analyzing evangelicals' perspective on tRump. The question of his JudyM Feb 2016 #11
the same kind that draws them to rush, hannity, o'reilly, etc. etc. eom truthseeker1 Feb 2016 #17
'zactly! JudyM Feb 2016 #38
YES! renate Feb 2016 #34
sad but true, eh? JudyM Feb 2016 #39
some pray for water and expect a river; others pray for water and keep walking until they find one MisterP Feb 2016 #13
It sounded like he was copying Obama with that R B Garr Feb 2016 #14
Nope. That's how he has sounded for decades. cali Feb 2016 #32
Yup, he phrased it like Obama did. R B Garr Feb 2016 #37
No. He's my Senator. I've been to town halls and heard him cali Feb 2016 #40
He is a humanist!!! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #15
Exactly truthseeker1 Feb 2016 #18
It was powerful. H2O Man Feb 2016 #19
As a believing liberal Christian, I love this answer... First Speaker Feb 2016 #20
KICK AND REC Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #21
This was a great answer. I loved it. n/t ms liberty Feb 2016 #23
I myself have strong spiritual beliefs, SheilaT Feb 2016 #24
"We are all in this together..." Blue Owl Feb 2016 #26
would have preferred a response to the effect of Myrina Feb 2016 #27
Me too, if it's true for him. spooky3 Feb 2016 #28
Same here. IMO, questions about religion shouldn't even be asked. Ever. kath Feb 2016 #30
It actually means that FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #29
Love it. So authentic. n/t californiabernin Feb 2016 #31
We have moved so far away from those Democratic principles of helping our fellow human. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #33
I'm an atheist, and I love this. Honest, compassionate, and pander-free. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #36

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
2. +1. It was direct, simple, and heart-felt.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:28 PM
Feb 2016

And actually reminded we of a discussion last year from Sunday School, when we were looking at different religions.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
3. But what does that have to do with hordes of people giving you money because gawd says
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:32 PM
Feb 2016

you need a new Lear jet? Isn't that religion? Isn't that faith?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
5. Bernie represents
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

what I feel more than any other politician has in my life. More I learn about him the more comfortable I become.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
35. I think I'm hypnotized by your Anna K gif
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 05:37 PM
Feb 2016

I'm old enough to be her dad, but she's one brilliant, beautiful lady.

Can't. Stop. Watching.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
41. I have to see it every time I post.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not complaining. I'm 61 and I swoon over her. Beauty and smarts is a deadly combination! I love Anna! 💔

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. He also said
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

From your source:

"I would not be here tonight, I would not be running for president, if I didn't have very strong religious and spiritual feelings."


and from https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanders-finally-answers-the-god-question/2016/01/26/83429390-bfb0-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html

"Sanders said he believes in God, though not necessarily in a traditional manner.

“I think everyone believes in God in their own ways,” he said. “To me, it means that all of us are connected, all of life is connected, and that we are all tied together.”

I want to be treated with dignity and respect, and I want other people to be treated with dignity and respect,” he said.

“I think it is important that a sense of morality be part of our politics.”


Clearly, his personal concept of God is very closely tied to his politics.

It's unfortunate, IMO, that we focus so much on a candidate's religion, when the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for any officeholder.

Worse, we seem to veer toward religious bigotry all too quickly. That is ironic, given admonitions against judging others in both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php?109-Democratic-Primary-2016-Will-religious-bigotry-work-this-time

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
10. Empathy.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

That's what Bernie is talking about here. Jerry Falwell and The Moral Majority's Christianity made Empathy a weakness rather than a virtue. It's been spread far and wide due to the RW's media noise machine and co-opted by the Evangelicals in the DLC in the 90's.



FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
25. Yes. It's simply empathy, wrapped around strong morality of the Golden Rule, with the
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016

solid base of social good and social activism, tikkun olam.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
11. One of the npr programs was analyzing evangelicals' perspective on tRump. The question of his
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

gaffes with the plate and 2Corinthians and lack of real religious authenticity (via interviews with evangelicals in Iowa) came down to the bottom line that the evangelicals don't care that much about whether he is authentically religious... he is succeeding, rather, by tapping into the generalized anger they have and they like that he expresses it. I'm thinking, what kind of religion is that that is drawn to anger as a way of leading -and being- in the world?

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
14. It sounded like he was copying Obama with that
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

answer. All of a sudden, he's a big Obama fan, too. What's up with that.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
37. Yup, he phrased it like Obama did.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:06 PM
Feb 2016

Who better to copy than the man in office after screwing up by bashing him too much. All of a sudden, he's a big Obama fan. Hmmm.

And how would you know what he sounds like in a national primary. He's never run before.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
40. No. He's my Senator. I've been to town halls and heard him
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:11 PM
Feb 2016

talk like this. Wrong as could be.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
20. As a believing liberal Christian, I love this answer...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:46 PM
Feb 2016

...we have had all sorts of religious beliefs among our presidents. From the Deism of the Founders, thru the Mystic Destiny of Lincoln, thru more-or-less standard mainstream Christian beliefs of FDR and Obama, thru Ike's vague, politically-convenient conversion after being elected, thru JFK's Catholicism, thru Nixon's "Quakerism", thru Carter's Born-Again Baptist faith...we've had the gamut. I don't give a damn, as long as you don't permit your beliefs to override the secular constitution of the United States, which I support 100%. Needless to say, that means that today's GOP--that bizarre, unholy combination of Fundamentalist savages and ultramontaine Catholics--is anathema to me. Sanders' response was deeply satisfying, because it was heartfelt, showed how his beliefs imbue his attitude towards life and politics, and said something good, to me, about who he is and what makes him tick...

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
24. I myself have strong spiritual beliefs,
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

but they are not of the traditional sort. But my core underlying belief is that we are here to help each other out. I don't always live up to that, but I do try, and I'm pretty sure that sometimes I succeed.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
27. would have preferred a response to the effect of
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:52 PM
Feb 2016

"My religious / spiritual beliefs are a private, personal matter and since we are a country who's constitution specifically calls out the separation of church and state, I will lead according to the Constitution & have nothing else to say on the matter."

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
29. It actually means that
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

His faith is not rooted in a God, which is why he didn't mention God in this question about his faith.
I don't think this would play well in the general election,
even if some Liberals don't care.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
33. We have moved so far away from those Democratic principles of helping our fellow human.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

I sure hope Bernie can help bring some of that back. We know the Republicans don't really care about other people. What is really sad is to see so many Democrats not care about other people. A lot of "I got mine, don't care if you got yours" attitude running through the Democratic party right now.

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