I have always like Barbara Boxer, but she's part of the status quo.

[Avalux]

It surprises me not that she'd come out and smear Sanders to help Hillary. It's politics, and it would be out of character for Barbara to buck the system and have favorable words for Bernie. She would be ostracized from the Democratic Party if she did that.

The same reasoning applies to every other establishment Democrat, except those willing to be demonized by the DNC.

[Gothmog]

1. Throwing Senator Boxer under the bus

Exactly how does Sanders think he will get anything accomplished? The revolution concept seems to be a flop given that Sanders got less votes than President Obama in 2008 in Iowa

[MADem]

3. Barbara Boxer has been a superb Senator, and she is not only one of the most influential people in

America, she is also one of the most influential women in America, and one of the few Jewish women in Congress, indeed, in public political life. Her voice and her perspective will be sorely missed.

She was born and raised in BROOKLYN and she went to Brooklyn College. She's not some pampered, protected California creature who hasn't lived an authentic and nuanced life.

I trust her judgment--and she's made her choice for a reason. She's served in the House and the Senate--she knows the players.

[Gothmog]

9. I also stand with Senator Barbara Boxer

[Cleita]

12. Is that how you see Californians, as pampered creatures?

FFS! This state is one of the hardest to survive in because of the competitiveness on every level and how much more it costs to live here. I have over the years I have lived here seen many a transplant from other states tuck their tails between their legs and go home because of how tough it is here to get ahead. Could you be any more insulting?

[MADem]

14. No, but that's how I see a lot of people who have tried to beat her and Feinstein.

Spoiling for a fight, are ya?

If you look for the negative, you'll surely find it.

Darrell Issa was--and is-- a real beaut. He cried when he couldn't buy the governorship. And Conan the Barbarian, your former governor, certainly lived in the lap of luxury. Duke Cunningham, Thief Par Excellence, is yet another example. And who was it who tried to shift Barbara Boxer the last time round...and lost? Why CARLY FIORINA, another of the pampered and privileged of which I speak.

CA is a terribly expensive state to live in. I lived in both northern (Monterey) and southern (San Diego) CA, and even way back when, the prices were out-of-line with most of the nation.

What you don't seem to realize is that you, while attempting to scold me, ARE paying a compliment to Senator Boxer, who IS a "transplant" and didn't "tuck (her tail) between (her) legs and go home..."

So, whatever. I'll still miss her. I think it'll be a long time before we see her like again.

[Cleita]

17. None of your examples are native Californians but carry on.

Truth is that California is a large, populated and very diverse state, however, it's the non-natives who mostly give it bad press. If you lived here then trust me, you know that very few of us are pampered even less so than the average homogenous mid-westerner.

You may apologize for that ad hominem attack.

[MADem]

21. Boxer isn't either. Not sure what your point is, there.

They're all representing (or have represented) "Californians" -- native AND otherwise. Native (and otherwise) Californians put those people in office with their (native and otherwise) votes. And some of them--like the ones I named--were pompous and pampered assholes. You can wait a long time before I'll apologize for calling assholes like Cunningham exactly what they are.

What's odd as hell is the way you've bifurcated the California citizenry, and in effect, engaged in a "put down" of the non-natives. Are you saying that some "Californians" are better or more important than others? That the accident of the location of their birth makes them superior? OR inferior? I mean, Jerry Brown's a good "native," but Richard Nixon was no prize.

Maybe you're the one who needs to be doing some of that apologizing! Not to me--to your fellow citizens!

smh!

You can look for insult, and if you look hard enough, you will surely find it.

[Cleita]

22. You made a point of Boxer not being a "pampered Californian" yet offered up those others not native

Californians as examples of. You tell me. You insulted all Californians with your put down. You need to apologize. It's no different that insults hurled at our Southerners calling them Trailer Trash, Crackers etc..

[MADem]

25. I didn't bring in the whole "native" thing--YOU did. And you made a BIG DEAL out of it, too.

I gave you specific examples of pampered Californians, yet STILL you were not satisfied.

You're looking for a pointless fight. Relentlessly, it would seem.

And those losers I noted have nothing to do with "Southerners." But go on and push it, and try like hell to make that rather spurious connection-not sure why you NEED to do this, but apparently you do.

smh.


This place!

[Cleita]

27. You really are a most illogical person. Have a nice day. n/t

[MADem]

29. Really? Right back at ya!

[gyroscope]

13. Clinton got less votes than Obama too

by your logic her 2016 campaign is a flop.

[Cali_Democrat]

19. Hillary Clinton isn't screaming about a political revolution

Bernie is.

Even people like Barbara Boxer are being thrown under the bus, so the revolution is a flop.

How can he work with anyone in Congress.

[MelSC]

24. He won't be able to at all

This is what Bernie supporters are completely willfully blind to, instead of acknowledging the obvious they just throw blind jabs at Hillary saying she won't either...its complete nonsense.

The Republicans hate Hillary because they know she's smart and a true threat to their power. That's why they hated Bill as well...

The Republicans don't hate Bernie yet bc they don't take him seriously, but if he ever got into office...oh there would be a revolution alright...a revolution of Republicans taking up the House and Senate. He is so much more radical than Hillary in his views, lots of people respect/worship that here and that's fair...but he's far too left for my liking to be honest.

[Cleita]

2. She's retiring so I don't concern myself with her

anymore. We need to decide whom we are going to support to replace her. I have always found her more to the left than most of the Senate and she has always listened to my concerns when I addressed her about them. I don't like what she said but I find many Democrats in my area feel the same. I take solace that the Millenials are backing Bernie and looking at other new candidates through the lens of his ideals. My goal is to get as many of them registered to vote as I can find.

[Le Taz Hot]

8. Kamala Harris is in the running

but she endorsed Hillary early on.

[Cleita]

11. That's what I heard too.

[Cheese Sandwich]

4. She's not smearing. She's just doing a little light campaigning for her friend.

It's not a big deal.

Please everyone don't start a whole thing with Barbara Boxer or Connie Schultz or anyone else.

It's a fact Bernie Sanders has been an independent his whole career and has had a working relationship with the Democratic Party in many ways.

Don't start a feud with popular Democratic Party politicians unless it's like Debbie Wasserman Schultz or something else really blatant like that.

Barbara Boxer is allowed to defend Hillary and we don't have to respond.

It's just not a good battle for us to be in. We don't win it.

[emulatorloo]

6. Well said.

[FloridaBlues]

5. Well it's no surprise that Bernie is trying to divide the democratic party

Love Boxers text " Sen Sanders a democrat sometimes". Speak it Barbara.
This is a statement that will not end well for Bernie who is he to give a litmus test for being a democrat I say to him formerly register as one before you throw out statements on who should be one

[Le Taz Hot]

7. Yeah, and she's being replaced

by Kamala Harris who endorsed Hillary early on. That tells me everything I need to know about her and not in a good way. She lost my support and vote with that endorsement.

[MADem]

15. Annnndddd.....another one under the bus! nt

[Le Taz Hot]

32. Make of it what you will.

[moondust]

10. Yep.

Pretty much any "Democrat" who has been in D.C. for any length of time has had to somehow find a way to deal with the Clinton machine. Most probably chose the path of least resistance knowing their political fortunes could depend on not making enemies of them. Years of sticking together against the pugs and going with the flow and before you know it...buddies! And naturally the Clinton machine will call in all those years' worth of old favors they're owed from their "buddies" when the chips are down.

[MADem]

16. Boxer is retiring. She doesn't have to "find a way to deal."

She served for a decade in the House, a good portion of that with Sanders. She's worked with him in the Senate for a decade.

Maybe she just LIKES Clinton better. It happens. Sanders does not have a reputation for congeniality amongst his peers. THAT's probably why she has so many more superdelegate endorsements, and he has so few.

Many of his colleagues in Congress would recognize the stubbornness. “I admired him for his willingness to take stands for what he believed,” former Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank, a man not immune to professing unpopular opinions, tells me. “He went for the ideal, but he was not part of the legislative process. He chose to be an outsider.”

On Capitol Hill, Sanders has a reputation for being a pain in the ass. “Bernie believes that he’s right, and that what he wants is for the greater good,” says Houston consultant Susan Boardman Russ, formerly the longtime chief of staff for the late Vermont Senator Jim Jeffords. “Bernie is so certain that what he represents politically is unquestionably correct, therefore everyone should agree. Not much room for compromise…it was, ‘Play in my sandbox, or get out.’”

After Sanders’s 16 years in the House and almost nine in the Senate, there are not many legislators in his sandbox. Not a single major congressman, senator, or governor has endorsed him for president.

His monomania certainly hasn’t stopped him from rising in the polls. After Labor Day, Sanders held a 22-point lead over Clinton in New Hampshire and a 10-point edge over her in Iowa, according to a CBS News/YouGov poll. Which takes us to Sanders’s essential contradiction: He can reach crowds with soaring oratory, but, as Judith Levine points out, the business of being Bernie can make him seem disconnected and insensitive. Aides know he would rather bury himself in a budget than bounce a toddler on his lap. On the trail, Sanders has rarely seen a baby he wants to kiss, a hand he needs to shake, a back that would welcome a slap. With reporters or anyone who dares to ask, he stiff-arms questions about the source of his populist rage, his personal life, his influences, how he became a socialist, and his hopes and dreams beyond fomenting a political revolution. “Bernie has always been on a mission,” says Linda Niedweske, a former confidante who managed his first mayoral campaign. “He has no time for much else.”

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2015/09/29/bernie-sanders/

And the scare quotes around "Democrat?" No need.

[closeupready]

18. I also like her, and she's entitled to endorse whoever she wants.

But I'm still entitled to vote for whoever I want, and that's what I'm going to do.

[amborin]

20. this is fascism

[wyldwolf]

23. why is she part of the status quo and Sanders is not?

[MADem]

28. Sanders has been getting a government check about as long as she has!

It's a bit disingenuous to play like he hasn't been on the payroll for thirty some-odd years, in varying capacities.

[Ken Burch]

26. Barbara Boxer became effectively a conservative when she turned anti-grassroots.

Nothing worthwhile or progressive can ever come anymore from backroom deals and half-loaves.

[quickesst]

30. I think...

.... that at least 75 - 90% of people they have thrown under the bus were liked by most Bernie Sanders supporters until they endorsed Hillary Clinton. If that's not true then why weren't they talking all this shit about them before the primaries even started? That's what "used to like" really means

[Avalux]

31. I didn't say I used to like her. I said I've always liked her.

I still do like her, but I recognize that there is no way, given where she stands, she would not help Hillary.

[quickesst]

33. Actually...

... it seems you have little or no respect for Barbara Boxer. You claim that she is only speaking out against Bernie for fear of being ostracized by the DNC. I think Barbara Boxer is speaking her mind without any fear of retaliation whatsoever. I don't think she could not be cowed by anyone. That is why I do like, and respect her.