2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department
Secretary Clinton, for sale to the highest bidder.
Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation.
...The State Department formally approved these arms sales even as many of the deals enhanced the military power of countries ruled by authoritarian regimes whose human rights abuses had been criticized by the department. Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Qatar all donated to the Clinton Foundation and also gained State Department clearance to buy caches of American-made weapons even as the department singled them out for a range of alleged ills, from corruption to restrictions on civil liberties to violent crackdowns against political opponents.
http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187
polichick
(37,152 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)I really think we are the like the plague of black death in how we spread our weapons everywhere, it is he one thing we can be successful at exporting. It is kind of like the Oprah thing, You get a weapon, and you get a weapon, and you get a weapon............
so the question becomes, if they didn't donate did they still get a weapons deal?
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)<snip>
Here is an example of how the pay to play scam worked: Saudi Arabia wanted F-15 fighter jets, which they received after making a $900,000 donation to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton personally approved that deal. This happened after Hillary complained about the country continuing to ignore the money that was flowing from Saudi Arabia to terrorist organizations. In short, she knew that the country was funding terrorists who were fighting American soldiers, and still was willing to sell them heavy artillery because they gave her group money.
These countries that were receiving sweetheart deals from Clinton were violating human rights left and right, and thats according to information that the State Department had. Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait all of these countries had been singled out by the State Department for things like corruption, violation of civil liberties, and violently retaliating against political opponents. But Hillary looked past all of these atrocities when she gave them massive weaponry.
Algeria had been singled out as allowing arbitrary killing in the country and for having what they called widespread corruption. But after a half million dollar donation to the Clinton Foundation, they received a 70% increase in military weapon imports that included toxicological agents, biological agents, chemical agents. During her time at the State Department, Hillary approved $2.7 billion to the country of Algeria, which is almost triple what the Bush administration had sold to them in their last few years in office. Algeria had been put on watch by Hillarys State Department for abuses such as human trafficking, their practicing of disappearing political and social dissidents, and for allowing violent criminals to kidnap, rape, and terrorize citizens in areas of the country without actively trying to stop them.
But when youre giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Secretary of States charity, those egregious human rights abuses can be swept under the rug to make room for your new shipment of chemical weapons.
Legally, these countries are not allowed to make political donations to U.S. politicians if they are seeking arms deals from the government, but there is no law that prevents them from making charitable donations. And thats how they were legally able to bribe Hillary Clinton. National security experts even came forward at the time and said that these donations represented a very serious conflict of interest. Their warnings went unheeded.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)RW talking points, etc etc. Instead of taking this for what it truly is. Rec'd
JudyM
(29,250 posts)Tell us what it truly is, then.
An "arm's length" transaction?
I'm on your team. I was anticipating the responses from Weathervane. Sorry
JudyM
(29,250 posts)NowSam
(1,252 posts)What's it gonna be, folks?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)eom
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)when foreign countries, corporations and wealthy individuals all know they can seek favors from her by making "contributions" to the Clinton Foundation.
Nice racket.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)It doesn't matter if it was all legal, or if these countries would have gotten the arms anyway. The optics are bad, and that's what matters. "Appearance of impropiety" is the issue, real or not.
No matter what people think the Republicans would throw at Bernie, it can't match the ammunition that Hillary is giving them. Another reason he'd be the stronger candidate in November.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)waiting to go off in the general election.
cali
(114,904 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)the foundation has high marks for its humanitarian service which should offset the misery it may be responsible for. Yeah, that's it.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Puhleeeze. Her campaign oozes corruption.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
amborin
(16,631 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Sienna86
(2,149 posts)As someone who has taught Ethics, I'm surprised President Obama selected her for the position with the Clinton Foundation in the picture. She should not have accepted it. Was there quid quo pro? Even the appearance of conflict of interest could have been avoided.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)We will likely never know the machinations there.
fbc
(1,668 posts)Wishing he hadn't forgotten to mail that check to the Clinton Foundation.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Thanks for the thread, gyroscope.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Dig a little deeper and you find the real dirt.