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Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:23 PM Feb 2016

This is a sincere question

and I hope I'm posting it in the right forum. I'm the Democratic chair for my town. I recently attended a County Committee executive meeting where we were told that County Committee candidates would be running on Hillary's line. I personally support Sanders in the primary and I do no want my name on the same line as Hillary.

Do I resign as chair and from the county committee? Do I notify my district leaders that they will be running on Hillary's line so that they may chose to run or not? What about the district leaders that support Sanders? If the majority of my town's district leaders don't support Hillary, do we go rogue? Is that even possible?


on edit: I'm in New Jersey

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This is a sincere question (Original Post) Madam Mossfern Feb 2016 OP
I don't understand the question Arazi Feb 2016 #1
Yeah, I don't understand... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #4
The same line on the election ballot Madam Mossfern Feb 2016 #6
THAT is concerning. pinebox Feb 2016 #2
show me the money or the trail bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #27
Of course you go rogue. HERVEPA Feb 2016 #3
Hillary is 40+ points ahead of Bernie in New Jersey. nt onehandle Feb 2016 #5
So? Madam Mossfern Feb 2016 #7
So you dont want a tea party takeover. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #15
So Clintonian. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #18
Im saying how Repubs in those districts will go after him. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #19
To be clear then. You don't believe what you just posted. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #22
It's a mystery to me what you think and why. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #29
Janey you sound like the pundits. You forgot the rest of your comment bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #28
Can't believe you just wrote that whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #12
"She's the presumed nominee, in other words, no need for impartiality." TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #14
Clinton supporters seem to share her values whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #21
Brendon Byrne used to be governor. n/t H2O Man Feb 2016 #24
You could poll the other town chairs and see Ron Green Feb 2016 #8
Do you have a past or current ballot they plan on using in the NJ primary? NCTraveler Feb 2016 #9
Give their emails to the BernieBro army on Reddit firebrand80 Feb 2016 #10
Who told you that? Tell them that you support Bernie and make them force you out. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #11
By All Means - Don't Resign - That Is Just Handing It To Them To Do Whatever They Please.... global1 Feb 2016 #13
++ exactly fight them at every turn. It is our party the are just a short time infection Vincardog Feb 2016 #26
I truly believe so at this point. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #30
I'd stand my ground, if I were you. MineralMan Feb 2016 #16
I think I understand the issue... brooklynite Feb 2016 #17
I thought about doing that, but what would it accomplish? Madam Mossfern Feb 2016 #20
Do you want to serve as Party Chair? brooklynite Feb 2016 #23
We always do our own petitioning Madam Mossfern Feb 2016 #25
The Sanders campaign has its own issues with the establishment even accepting it as credible JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #36
I don't get why you'd be running on the same line as a Presidential candidate. winter is coming Feb 2016 #31
I'm sorry your going through this. If you feel you can stand your ground and bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #32
Contact John Wisniewski, Assembly. (D) 19th Distri Euphoria Feb 2016 #33
Good suggestion. senz Feb 2016 #35
Can you broadcast the situation on local media? Radio, news, TV? senz Feb 2016 #34

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
6. The same line on the election ballot
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

There will be a line for Hillary and a line for Bernie.
In this scenario, all the democratic district leaders names would be on Hillary's line and none on Bernie's.
It's a blatant way to influence the outcome of the primaries.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
15. So you dont want a tea party takeover.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:45 PM
Feb 2016

Which would happen trying to defend a "socialist" who wants to raise middle class taxes.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
18. So Clintonian.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:49 PM
Feb 2016

He is proposing to SAVE the average family THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS per year in health care costs. But I suspect you already knew that.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
22. To be clear then. You don't believe what you just posted.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:11 PM
Feb 2016

The GOP will have a field day with Secretary "I was for the TPP before I was against it" Clinton. What if he asks her about how she feels about gun control or Keystone, etc.? Which Hillary will answer? Annie Oakley or 2016 Hillary? Bernie won't even hesitate to answer. What happens if her GOP opponent asks her whether she is a moderate or a progressive? She can't even answer effectively in the primary.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
14. "She's the presumed nominee, in other words, no need for impartiality."
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:45 PM
Feb 2016

Now we're beginning to understand Iowa, folks.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
8. You could poll the other town chairs and see
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

if there's some dissatisfaction with this behavior, then gather whatever candidates you can to join the future.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. Do you have a past or current ballot they plan on using in the NJ primary?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

That might help to put this in a more visual perspective.

global1

(25,251 posts)
13. By All Means - Don't Resign - That Is Just Handing It To Them To Do Whatever They Please....
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:45 PM
Feb 2016

fight it or go rogue.

Again - what has happened to the Democratic Process in this country. Is everything fixed?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. I'd stand my ground, if I were you.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

Don't resign. Make them force you out, if that's what they want to do.

It's up to you, really.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
17. I think I understand the issue...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:49 PM
Feb 2016

...the Democratic Party in NJ actually endorses candidates and petitions on their behalf, and the Primary ballot is divided into a "Party Endorsed" line and and "other" line.

I'm not from NJ, but I think that the best approach is to talk to your County Board of Election, about rejecting the "endorsement" and putting yourself on the ballot seperately.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
20. I thought about doing that, but what would it accomplish?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

This is NJ - too many sleazy behind closed doors deals. I'd be on the ballot as a public protest. I'd rather resign and join the Sanders campaign.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
23. Do you want to serve as Party Chair?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:16 PM
Feb 2016

If so, you'll have to get on the ballot on your own terms (which probably also means doing your own petitioning). The Sanders campaign, as a number of people have commented, is not doing any work with down-ticket candidates.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
25. We always do our own petitioning
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

it's no big deal. I'm not interested in leading a rebellion in this County, it would take a whole lot more energy than I'm willing to expend. We would have to overthrow the County machine - not an easy thing to do in NJ. What we can do, in protest is not run anyone for County Committee to send home a message. It would look bad for the leadership of the County, but honestly none of the populace cares a whit.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
36. The Sanders campaign has its own issues with the establishment even accepting it as credible
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know whether to characterize the lack of work on down-ticket candidates as due apathy or instead due to being locked into mortal combat for what the party even represents.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
31. I don't get why you'd be running on the same line as a Presidential candidate.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:42 PM
Feb 2016

All the primary ballots I've ever used had all the races listed separately, i.e., there's no "slate" voting in a primary that's like a straight-party ticket for a general election.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
32. I'm sorry your going through this. If you feel you can stand your ground and
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:43 PM
Feb 2016

let them know how you feel then do it. If you don't want to do that then report them. If you don't want to do that then resign and volunteer for Bernie. But it has to be your decision.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
34. Can you broadcast the situation on local media? Radio, news, TV?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:52 PM
Feb 2016

Do not resign as chair; that is a position of power. Use your position to protest.

Good luck, and let us know if we can help.

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