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Desmoine Register Iowa Newspaper Who Endorsed Clinton Demands Investigation (Original Post) Gregorian Feb 2016 OP
They have never endorsed a (D) who won Iowa or the nomination Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #1
I support it. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #2
i think its been lost on some that such an investigation could improve her standing restorefreedom Feb 2016 #15
The thing is.... JaneyVee Feb 2016 #16
agree about the delegates but it will also send a message to the other states restorefreedom Feb 2016 #28
I think most people agree that we need to know that our elections sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #34
That woman looks very comfortable... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #3
Do you think superficialities will drastically change your politics? immoderate Feb 2016 #4
Those who live without bourgeoisie accouterments DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #7
Oh please. elias49 Feb 2016 #5
That's a good point. A typical bourgeois well-to-do home. DanTex Feb 2016 #6
The expensive couch, the fresh paint, the French doors, and stairs jumped out at me. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #8
Yup. Wonder how her housekeeper would feel about risking a GOP presidency for DanTex Feb 2016 #9
Reminds me of the line from The Great Gatsby DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #10
Obvious deflection deflects obviously Arazi Feb 2016 #11
I played on a J V basketball team. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #13
My mother would never let me run again if I failed to thank those who helped me win Arazi Feb 2016 #18
She thanked her supporters on Twitter... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #21
Right? Holy SHIT... did I just read that nonsense or are my allergy meds fucking with me? AzDar Feb 2016 #17
Hey, at least it bumps up the thread Arazi Feb 2016 #19
She should move into a refrigerator box to solidify her cred. frylock Feb 2016 #20
She's so fancy, with her French doors you can buy at Home Depot off the shelf-- TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #24
I am going to ask my landlord if he can install a staircase and French Doors... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #29
You might get somewhere with the French doors--if you get pine/Douglas fir at any home improvement TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #31
The nerve of her! How dare she be attractive and not live in a shithole! FrodosPet Feb 2016 #25
She also has paint. And walls. And a couch. What a fraud. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #26
I wasn't commenting on her looks. I eschew lookism. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #27
Once the Des Moines Register investigates/audits the data, they'll find HRH crowd cheated and in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #12
The most salient thing about what you wrote is you actually believe it. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #14
Audit the Caucus! eom. NowSam Feb 2016 #22
From the blogger who brought you: "MSNBC and Rachel Maddow Set Up Bernie Sanders..." brooklynite Feb 2016 #23
K/R UglyGreed Feb 2016 #30
Sanders needs to file a lawsuit gyroscope Feb 2016 #32
It is Des Moines not Desmoine liberal N proud Feb 2016 #33
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
1. They have never endorsed a (D) who won Iowa or the nomination
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:00 PM
Feb 2016

and Hillary (apparently) winning ruins that record.

Investigating this would be good for Hillary if she really did win. Right now, her legitimacy is in question.

If Clinton supporters believe that she really did win then they should support this.





restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
15. i think its been lost on some that such an investigation could improve her standing
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016

i am certainly hoping for an outcome that shows bernie as having won, but it really could go either way.

one thing i don't think any of us want is to hit a ge with questions of tainted primary results

hey, i am in agreement with janeyvee...what a great day!!

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
16. The thing is....
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:51 PM
Feb 2016

It does seem a bit of an overreaction though considering the path to the over 2200 needed. But if it will put an end to the conspiracy bs than go for it.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
28. agree about the delegates but it will also send a message to the other states
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:39 PM
Feb 2016

to be prepared, have enough staff, enough forms, etc so everything goes smoothly. and no appearances or concerns about screw ups.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. I think most people agree that we need to know that our elections
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

are fair. So why do you think the DNC Chair in Iowa is refusing to release the raw data? What is the problem, in some states when an election is this close, there is an automatic recount?

I agree it could work out in Hillary's favor, but when the DNC says 'no' that creates an impression that they fear it will not favor Hillary.

So, I'm fine either way. But if I were advising Hillary I would advise her to join those asking for the raw data. Refusing says to people 'it will not be in her favor and they know it'.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. That woman looks very comfortable...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

That woman looks very comfortable and even a casual glance suggests that home is replete with bourgeoisie accoutrements. If that's how a revolutionary lives maybe I should trade my plebeian status for one.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. Those who live without bourgeoisie accouterments
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:25 PM
Feb 2016

Those who live without bourgeoisie accouterments would hardly consider their absence superficial. She seems to be living quite nicely.


It reminds me of the scene in the Godfather when the wealthy WASP goes to the Godfather, Michael Corleone, to ask for his niece's hand in marriage. He has to go to Michael because his prospective bride's father, Sonny, was killed, and Michael has become loco parentis. He is trying to conceal or downplay his wealth.

After Michael gives his blessing, he cogently says " Oh you shouldn't be ashamed of your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick of the rich to keep the poor without it."

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
6. That's a good point. A typical bourgeois well-to-do home.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

And then people like her make arguments like that the difference between HRC and the GOP is like being run over by a bus or an airplane. But in reality, the difference for her is probably not noticeable. Doesn't seem like she'll be relying on SS, she probably had good healthcare without ACA, depending on her tax bracket, she may even end up with more money under the GOP.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. The expensive couch, the fresh paint, the French doors, and stairs jumped out at me.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:27 PM
Feb 2016

A bourgeoisie revolution is better than no revolution at all, I guess.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. Yup. Wonder how her housekeeper would feel about risking a GOP presidency for
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:30 PM
Feb 2016

the sake of a supposed revolution.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. Reminds me of the line from The Great Gatsby
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:32 PM
Feb 2016

“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
11. Obvious deflection deflects obviously
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:35 PM
Feb 2016


That's all right, there's at least two other threads on the smell coming from the IA caucus...

The obsession with this woman's house is hilarious!!

Please proceed. Better than teevee

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. I played on a J V basketball team.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

I played on a J V basketball team. If I refused to congratulate the winner I would have been kicked off it...The Vermont senator is a fellow sportsman. I would have hoped he would have comported himself with more dignity and displayed the good sportsmanship I know he is capable of.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
18. My mother would never let me run again if I failed to thank those who helped me win
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary declined to even graciously stay and thank those who helped her with that "win" (you do know that even the Des Moines Register is calling foul right?)

Really we can play tit for tat all day Miss Manners.

I'm actually bummed you've strayed from your critique on the house decor.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
21. She thanked her supporters on Twitter...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:00 PM
Feb 2016

As to the apparent wealth of the woman in the video and the benefits that come with it this plebeian is a tad bit envious.

If I join the revolution can I trade in my 450 square foot rent controlled forty year old apartment for a two story home, replete with fine furnishings, a spiral stairway, fresh paint, and French Doors?

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
17. Right? Holy SHIT... did I just read that nonsense or are my allergy meds fucking with me?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:52 PM
Feb 2016


I reckon when they've got no other response...

frylock

(34,825 posts)
20. She should move into a refrigerator box to solidify her cred.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

Do you people even listen to the crap you type out?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
24. She's so fancy, with her French doors you can buy at Home Depot off the shelf--
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

and her finial on her handrail, which you can buy at Home Depot off the shelf. Why, I have a set of French doors in my home. I have bourgeois accoutrements!!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
29. I am going to ask my landlord if he can install a staircase and French Doors...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

I am going to ask my landlord if he can install a stairway and French Doors In my 450 square foot rent controlled studio apartment. Why should some live so well while the rest of us don't?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
31. You might get somewhere with the French doors--if you get pine/Douglas fir at any home improvement
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:45 PM
Feb 2016

center they're not that much. Or just install it yourself, get a single one and stain/poly it, swap out hinges, you're done. The stairway--well that's a can of worms in terms of building architecture, permits, etc.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
25. The nerve of her! How dare she be attractive and not live in a shithole!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

Now if she were sitting on a van seat in a single wide, chasing away children, small animals, and the fainthearted with a sideways scowl, she would have a legitimate point.

But she has *gasp* FRENCH DOORS!

To the guillotine with the bourgeoisie oppressor.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
27. I wasn't commenting on her looks. I eschew lookism.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:37 PM
Feb 2016

My comments were directed at her comfortable surroundings.

Why are you taking umbrage at my characterization of the revolution the Vermont senator calls for as a bourgeoisie one ?

The American Revolution was a bourgeoisie revolution and it went pretty well.




in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
12. Once the Des Moines Register investigates/audits the data, they'll find HRH crowd cheated and
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:38 PM
Feb 2016

should withdraw their endorsement. How could they let that stand, knowing it was HER CAMPAIGN that CHEATED?

THIS is going to expose the corruption.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
32. Sanders needs to file a lawsuit
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:47 PM
Feb 2016

the party's lack of cooperation and transparency as described in the article surely demands it.

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