2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat is the voting system like in NH? Anyone know?
Is it taken on EVM's? If so, is there a paper trail, or are their tabulations pretty much unverifiable?
If they are EVM's, and are of they type able to be compromised, then I'm pretty sure they will be.
Renew Deal
(81,860 posts)Everyone puts a toothpick in a basket and the person with the most wins. Ties are broken with a game of horseshoes.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)and play tiddlywinks instead?
Darn backwards Granite Stater's!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiddlywinks
jeff47
(26,549 posts)(just making a joke about how backward many of our election processes are)
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)First person to pass out loses.
Renew Deal
(81,860 posts)Or is that Vermont?
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)And it said Apple Cider for NH, so that's what I went with.
Renew Deal
(81,860 posts)It's Vermont
MisterP
(23,730 posts)just bubbly apple juice
matt819
(10,749 posts)Our approach to limiting voting is requiring every voter to purchase a quart container of maple syrup in order to vote.
Or, in the real world, in small towns the vote is made - gasp! horrors! - on paper. I love paper votes. I'll defer to the voters in the larger towns and cities on their version of electronic voting.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)The votes are cast and then counted.
The only minor wrinkle is how the national convention delegates are assigned. They are awarded based on the vote in each of the state's two congressional districts -- 8 delegates per district, for a total of 16. So each candidate is awarded a proportion of the 8 delegates based on their proportion of the vote in that district. In practice this means that the percentage of delegates awarded to each candidate might be slightly different from their percentage of the statewide vote.
FWIW, I don't think people are going to be paying much attention to the delegates. Everyone will be focused on the percentage of the statewide vote.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Those ballots are optically read by Accuvote readers. In the case of recounts, ballots are hand tallied.
http://sos.nh.gov/EBCD.aspx
I hope that answers your question.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Oct 30, 2013
One of the worlds largest ATM manufacturers and, formerly, one of the largest manufacturers of electronic voting systems, has been indicted by federal prosecutors for bribery and falsification of documents.
The charges represent only the latest in a long series of criminal and/or unethical misconduct by Diebold, Inc. and their executives over the past decade.
A U.S. Attorney says the latest charges are in response to a worldwide pattern of criminal conduct by the company bribing government officials and falsifying documents in China, Indonesia and Russia to obtain and retain contracts to provide ATMs to banks in those countries.
In 2010 the company settled an SEC fraud suit for $25 million. They also admitted in 2008 that they had overstated 2007 election division revenue by some 300% in hopes of manipulating stock prices.
As earlier as 2004, thanks to documents leaked by a whistleblower, it was discovered that Diebold had illegally used uncertified certified hardware and software in California election systems and planned to lie about it to state investigators. The e-voting systems, repeatedly found over the years to be easily hacked, were decertified for use by the state at the time (though they are still used widely around much of the country today.)
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)"They have been given millions of dollars by the Bush regime to complete a sweeping computerization of voting machines that were just used in the 2004 election. The technology involved had a trial run during the 2002 mid-term elections. Georgia had Diebold machines in every precinct. As a result, a popular Democratic governor and senator were both unseated in what the media called an "amazing" 16 percent swing.
"Diebold's Walden O'Dell, a top Bush fundraiser, publicly committed himself to delivering his home state Ohio's votes to Bush. At Diebold, the election division is run by Bob Urosevich. Bob's brother, Todd, is a top executive at "rival" ES&S. The brothers were originally staked by Howard Ahmanson, a member of the Council For National Policy, a right-wing steering group stacked with Bush true believers. Ahmanson is also one of the bagmen behind the extremist Christian Reconstruction Movement, which advocates the theocratic takeover of American democracy.
"The four companies are interconnected; they are not four "competitors". Ahmanson has large stakes in ES&S, whose former CEO was Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. When Hagel ran for office, his own company counted the votes, and his victory was considered "an amazing upset". Hagel still has a million dollar stake in ES&S.
"Sequoia is the corporate parent of a private equity firm, Madison Dearborn, which is partner in the Carlyle Group. (Also see here.)
"Meanwhile, SAIC is referred to a "shadowy defense contractor". They have gotten into the vote count game both directly and through spinoffs by its top brass, including Admiral Bill Owens, former military aide to Dick Cheney, and Carlyle Group honcho Frank Carlucci and ex-CIA chief Robert Gates. SAIC's history of fraud charges and security "lapses" haven't prevented it from becoming one of the largest Pentagon and CIA contractors, and will doubtless encounter few obstacles in its entrance into the vote counting business. "
This links to 2004 info posted by DU member, shows the origins of Diebold.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)with rock paper scissors.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)...this year we've added lizard and Spock.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)whether of the Democratic or Republican flavor, the answer is a resounding NO. I have no trust at all that they operate in the fullest faith and fairness when their profitable system of graft is threatened by an outsider.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Live free ... or ... die. Then they toss a coin.
emulatorloo
(44,130 posts)The doll with the least amount of pins is the winner.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)We're simple folk.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)The tiny ones like those hayseeds up in Dixville Notch that are in the news ever year for voting at midnight count by hand.