2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMedia Matters was created by David Brock. Do you know who David Brock is?
I keep seeing links over and over and over again about how faux used a link to media matters to promote an anti-Hillary story....
David Brock is one of the top Hillary supporters. He runs a superpac for her.
Here is a great piece from Michelle Goldberg on his organization.... http://www.thenation.com/article/how-david-brock-built-empire-put-hillary-white-house/
So when you post a link to Media Matters to prove something about Hillary, It's really no different than linking to Hillary's campaign.
I used to read media matters regularly because they do a good job at pointing out falsehoods in the corporate media... which they still do, but now they added an entire section of Look at the Media Being Mean to Hillary!
just FYI.
(edited to change my contrast & compare.)
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But now he's a "good guy" because he shills for Hillary both at Media Matters and through his Super PAC.
By ALEX KUCZYNSKI and WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: June 27, 2001
The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F. Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.
David Brock, the author of the book, ''The Real Anita Hill'' (Free Press, 1993), has also suggested, in a magazine article to be published this week, that Justice Thomas used an intermediary to provide Mr. Brock with damaging information about a woman who had come forward to provide support for Ms. Hill's accusations of harassment by Justice Thomas. Ms. Hill's accusations became the focus of Senate hearings into Justice Thomas's nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991.
Mr. Brock reported that he then used the information to force the woman to retract her statements about Justice Thomas. The article, in the August issue of Talk magazine, is excerpted from Mr. Brock's new book, ''Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex Conservative'' (Crown Publishers), which is scheduled to be published in September.
Describing an article he wrote for The American Spectator, a conservative magazine, in 1992, which became the basis for his book on Ms. Hill, he said he did everything he could to ''ruin Hill's credibility,'' using ''virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation I had collected on Hill into the vituperative mix.''
''I demonized Democratic senators, their staffs, and Hill's feminist supporters without ever interviewing any of them,'' he continued.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html
I watched those hearings, not forgotten, not forgiven.
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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Thats right and he will regret it mightily some day.
Soon I hope.
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Well that says it all, doesn't it?
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You seem familiar with my posting history on DU so you also know about my criticism of Biden.
How do you know what I want?
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frylock
(34,825 posts)I wonder if Ted Bundy ever repented?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
merrily
(45,251 posts)is different from many other PACs in that there need not even be a pretense that the PAC is independent of Hillary or her campaign.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)That a Hillary supporter linking to Media Matters is like a conservative linking to Breitbart, meaning the two sources are biased, not that the two are both right wing.
It's too early for so much faux outrage.
merrily
(45,251 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)On Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:20 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Media Matters was created by David Brock. Do you know who David Brock is?
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"So when you post a link to Media Matters to prove something about Hillary, it's really no difference than a right winger coming here and posting a link to breitbart."
That is beyond over the top and inappropriate. Media Matters is not Breitbart. That's 100% bullshit comparison and completely inappropriate.
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)People are sick of the alert stalking.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)The appropriate analogy would be to NewsBusters or AIM. The distinction, of course, is that the latter are notorious for prevarication and presenting opinion as fact while the former maintains a stellar record of accuracy.
It's also cited, regularly, by the Left regardless of any candidate preference or lack thereof. Any claim otherwise belies a personality-driven agenda devoid of a substantive basis.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Propaganda, manipulation.
To help conservatism take over Democrats under the cover of "We're liberals! Really!"
David Brock's specialty.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They are doing so well. It's no secret that Fox News was running with this bogus smear early. The definition of ratfucking.
cali
(114,904 posts)to the campaign.
jillan
(39,451 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Some of you bernie backers are beyond the pale.
You are burning all bridges to people and organizations that bernie would absolutely need to be successful if elected!
There is no reasoning with a person that tells outrageous lies like breitbart and Media Matters are the same.
Ignored.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Fucking disgusting comparison.
jillan
(39,451 posts)for Hillary or that Media Matters has become a Hillary apologist website.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)Maybe even slimier.
The association between the Clinton effort and Brock is yet another reason to be highly skeptical of Hillary's ethical foundations.
Charles Colson, Nixons dirty tricks man, dies at 80
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/chuck-colson-nixons-dirty-tricks-man-dies-at-80/2012/04/21/gIQAaoOHYT_story.html
On Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:20 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Media Matters was created by David Brock. Do you know who David Brock is?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511138094
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
"So when you post a link to Media Matters to prove something about Hillary, it's really no difference than a right winger coming here and posting a link to breitbart."
That is beyond over the top and inappropriate. Media Matters is not Breitbart. That's 100% bullshit comparison and completely inappropriate.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:24 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.
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Explanation: Annoying and incorrect hyperbole from the poster, but I don't see a violation. Alerter is better off challenging the poster on the facts in the forum. Did I mention how much I hate GDP?
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)are two identical nuts in a dog's nutsack. One of them is dead tho
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Well-researched, well-documented exposes with a practically unassailable record, staffed by well-credentialed professionals. It has survived relentless, orchestrated attacks from knuckledragging miscreants since its inception - including the thinly-veiled assertion that it was found by, and continues to be financed by George Soros - and will continue to do so.
David Brock is David Brock.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)No other place exposes and archives rightwing bullshit the way they do.
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JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)I'm sure good people work there. At least they have a job.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Never heard of Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting? They were around long before shitweasel, David Brock, started smearing Anita Hill.
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FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)when these cockroaches worked in the dark, they got away with all their ratfucking, but now, in 2016, it is near impossible to deceive the public on the same scale as they had in the past. These are the people that manifest the echo chamber. Their tactics are becoming more and more irrelevant. In fact, I would submit that as the public acquires more in-depth knowledge about these people, a candidates association with them can be held against them.