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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:12 PM Feb 2016

Media Matters was created by David Brock. Do you know who David Brock is?

I keep seeing links over and over and over again about how faux used a link to media matters to promote an anti-Hillary story....

David Brock is one of the top Hillary supporters. He runs a superpac for her.
Here is a great piece from Michelle Goldberg on his organization.... http://www.thenation.com/article/how-david-brock-built-empire-put-hillary-white-house/


So when you post a link to Media Matters to prove something about Hillary, It's really no different than linking to Hillary's campaign.

I used to read media matters regularly because they do a good job at pointing out falsehoods in the corporate media... which they still do, but now they added an entire section of Look at the Media Being Mean to Hillary!

just FYI.

(edited to change my contrast & compare.)

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Media Matters was created by David Brock. Do you know who David Brock is? (Original Post) jillan Feb 2016 OP
Yes, he's the misogynist who helped destroy Anita Hill. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #11
The socialist from Vermont sure is doing a scorched earth campaign inside a party he's bashed for workinclasszero Feb 2016 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #26
You think what he did to Hill was "cool"? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #25
Your words: "Really? Cool" And you made several assumptions there, perhaps you can back them up? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #29
But he repented. frylock Feb 2016 #39
Did you seriously just equate David Brock and mediamatters with Breitbart?... SidDithers Feb 2016 #2
Linking to mediamatters is no different from linking to Hillary's own super PAC, run by Brock, which merrily Feb 2016 #3
Same with BlueNationReview.com /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #5
Better analogy since many are purposely ignoring the op's actual point. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #13
Meh. merrily Feb 2016 #16
An alerter did but the jury didn't: corkhead Feb 2016 #19
Good jury! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #22
Media Matters states its liberal bias in unequivocal terms. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #31
Thank you jillian. RiverLover Feb 2016 #4
Love that they are fighting back against Fox News smears. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #6
Actually it is different. Linking to Media Matters is like linking cali Feb 2016 #7
True. I think I will go do an edit! jillan Feb 2016 #8
You compare Media Matters to fu**** breitbart!? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #9
OP is already walking that shit back. JTFrog Feb 2016 #12
Yes! It was a harsh comparison but it does not change the fact that Brock runs a superpac jillan Feb 2016 #15
Pathetic. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #20
Of course! Failure to understand the truth always is. jillan Feb 2016 #23
I'm not the one pushing the FOX narrative. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #24
I know who he is, a self admitted liar and shill. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #10
He is Chuck Colson, redux. earthside Feb 2016 #14
-- Hiraeth Feb 2016 #21
Reply to Alerter: Breitbart and Brock are FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #37
Media Matters was and continues to be a go-to source for right-wing media debunking. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #27
Media Matters is incredible and important. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverLover Feb 2016 #32
Who said "he"? I was referring to Media Matters and their employees. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #33
David Brock is Media Matters. RiverLover Feb 2016 #34
Corporations are people? JaneyVee Feb 2016 #35
Really? frylock Feb 2016 #40
Funny thing FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #36
Disregard any links from Blue Nation Review as well. frylock Feb 2016 #38

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
1. Yes, he's the misogynist who helped destroy Anita Hill.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:14 PM
Feb 2016

But now he's a "good guy" because he shills for Hillary both at Media Matters and through his Super PAC.

Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill in Bid to Aid Justice Thomas
By ALEX KUCZYNSKI and WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: June 27, 2001

The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F. Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.

David Brock, the author of the book, ''The Real Anita Hill'' (Free Press, 1993), has also suggested, in a magazine article to be published this week, that Justice Thomas used an intermediary to provide Mr. Brock with damaging information about a woman who had come forward to provide support for Ms. Hill's accusations of harassment by Justice Thomas. Ms. Hill's accusations became the focus of Senate hearings into Justice Thomas's nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991.

Mr. Brock reported that he then used the information to force the woman to retract her statements about Justice Thomas. The article, in the August issue of Talk magazine, is excerpted from Mr. Brock's new book, ''Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex Conservative'' (Crown Publishers), which is scheduled to be published in September.

Describing an article he wrote for The American Spectator, a conservative magazine, in 1992, which became the basis for his book on Ms. Hill, he said he did everything he could to ''ruin Hill's credibility,'' using ''virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation I had collected on Hill into the vituperative mix.''

''I demonized Democratic senators, their staffs, and Hill's feminist supporters without ever interviewing any of them,'' he continued.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html


I watched those hearings, not forgotten, not forgiven.

Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #1)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
17. The socialist from Vermont sure is doing a scorched earth campaign inside a party he's bashed for
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:26 PM
Feb 2016
years.

Thats right and he will regret it mightily some day.

Soon I hope.

Response to workinclasszero (Reply #17)

Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #18)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
28. Your words: "Really? Cool" And you made several assumptions there, perhaps you can back them up?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016
I assumed you could explain your problem with Biden since you watched the hearings back then.


You seem familiar with my posting history on DU so you also know about my criticism of Biden.

I get you want everyone to hate him because Bernie.


How do you know what I want?

Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #28)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. Linking to mediamatters is no different from linking to Hillary's own super PAC, run by Brock, which
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:15 PM
Feb 2016

is different from many other PACs in that there need not even be a pretense that the PAC is independent of Hillary or her campaign.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. Better analogy since many are purposely ignoring the op's actual point.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

That a Hillary supporter linking to Media Matters is like a conservative linking to Breitbart, meaning the two sources are biased, not that the two are both right wing.

It's too early for so much faux outrage.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
19. An alerter did but the jury didn't:
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:26 PM
Feb 2016

On Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:20 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Media Matters was created by David Brock. Do you know who David Brock is?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511138094

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"So when you post a link to Media Matters to prove something about Hillary, it's really no difference than a right winger coming here and posting a link to breitbart."

That is beyond over the top and inappropriate. Media Matters is not Breitbart. That's 100% bullshit comparison and completely inappropriate.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:24 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
31. Media Matters states its liberal bias in unequivocal terms.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

The appropriate analogy would be to NewsBusters or AIM. The distinction, of course, is that the latter are notorious for prevarication and presenting opinion as fact while the former maintains a stellar record of accuracy.

It's also cited, regularly, by the Left regardless of any candidate preference or lack thereof. Any claim otherwise belies a personality-driven agenda devoid of a substantive basis.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. Thank you jillian.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:16 PM
Feb 2016

Propaganda, manipulation.

To help conservatism take over Democrats under the cover of "We're liberals! Really!"

David Brock's specialty.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. Love that they are fighting back against Fox News smears.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:18 PM
Feb 2016

They are doing so well. It's no secret that Fox News was running with this bogus smear early. The definition of ratfucking.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. You compare Media Matters to fu**** breitbart!?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:20 PM
Feb 2016

Some of you bernie backers are beyond the pale.

You are burning all bridges to people and organizations that bernie would absolutely need to be successful if elected!


There is no reasoning with a person that tells outrageous lies like breitbart and Media Matters are the same.

Ignored.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
12. OP is already walking that shit back.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

Fucking disgusting comparison.

So when you post a link to Media Matters to prove something about Hillary, it's really no difference than a right winger coming here and posting a link to breitbart.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
15. Yes! It was a harsh comparison but it does not change the fact that Brock runs a superpac
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

for Hillary or that Media Matters has become a Hillary apologist website.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
14. He is Chuck Colson, redux.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe even slimier.

The association between the Clinton effort and Brock is yet another reason to be highly skeptical of Hillary's ethical foundations.

Charles Colson, Nixon’s ‘dirty tricks’ man, dies at 80
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/chuck-colson-nixons-dirty-tricks-man-dies-at-80/2012/04/21/gIQAaoOHYT_story.html

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
21. --
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:27 PM
Feb 2016

On Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:20 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Media Matters was created by David Brock. Do you know who David Brock is?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511138094

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"So when you post a link to Media Matters to prove something about Hillary, it's really no difference than a right winger coming here and posting a link to breitbart."

That is beyond over the top and inappropriate. Media Matters is not Breitbart. That's 100% bullshit comparison and completely inappropriate.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:24 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Don't hide it. Debate it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Please. Enough with the personal grudge alerts!
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is one of the worst alerts I have ever adjudicated. It deserves a 0-7. If you don't like what the post says, respond to it rather than cry to mommie. This is a FORUM for dog's sake!
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Annoying and incorrect hyperbole from the poster, but I don't see a violation. Alerter is better off challenging the poster on the facts in the forum. Did I mention how much I hate GDP?

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
37. Reply to Alerter: Breitbart and Brock are
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:44 PM
Feb 2016

are two identical nuts in a dog's nutsack. One of them is dead tho

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
27. Media Matters was and continues to be a go-to source for right-wing media debunking.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

Well-researched, well-documented exposes with a practically unassailable record, staffed by well-credentialed professionals. It has survived relentless, orchestrated attacks from knuckledragging miscreants since its inception - including the thinly-veiled assertion that it was found by, and continues to be financed by George Soros - and will continue to do so.

David Brock is David Brock.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
30. Media Matters is incredible and important.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:51 PM
Feb 2016

No other place exposes and archives rightwing bullshit the way they do.

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #30)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
40. Really?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:54 PM
Feb 2016

Never heard of Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting? They were around long before shitweasel, David Brock, started smearing Anita Hill.

What’s FAIR?
FAIR, the national media watch group, has been offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since 1986. We work to invigorate the First Amendment by advocating for greater diversity in the press and by scrutinizing media practices that marginalize public interest, minority and dissenting viewpoints. As an anti-censorship organization, we expose neglected news stories and defend working journalists when they are muzzled. As a progressive group, FAIR believes that structural reform is ultimately needed to break up the dominant media conglomerates, establish independent public broadcasting and promote strong non-profit sources of information.

Uniquely, FAIR works with both activists and journalists. We maintain a regular dialogue with reporters at news outlets across the country, providing constructive critiques when called for and applauding exceptional, hard-hitting journalism. We also encourage the public to contact media with their concerns, to become media activists rather than passive consumers of news.

***

FAIR publishes Extra!, the newsletter of media criticism, and produces the weekly radio program CounterSpin, the show that brings you the news behind the headlines. In addition, FAIR’s thriving email list distributes articles and Action Alerts to our international network of over 50,000 activists. Sign up today on FAIR’s homepage.

For an in-depth explanation of FAIR’s critique of the mainstream media, you should start with our overview, What’s Wrong with the News? You might also check out the article What’s FAIR?, by FAIR founder Jeff Cohen. See what journalists, activists and scholars have to say about FAIR.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
36. Funny thing
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:40 PM
Feb 2016

when these cockroaches worked in the dark, they got away with all their ratfucking, but now, in 2016, it is near impossible to deceive the public on the same scale as they had in the past. These are the people that manifest the echo chamber. Their tactics are becoming more and more irrelevant. In fact, I would submit that as the public acquires more in-depth knowledge about these people, a candidates association with them can be held against them.

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