2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe War on Bernie Sanders
The Democratic Party elite has launched a virtually unprecedented attack against Bernie Sanders.
Two stark facts have defined the 2016 Democratic primary since the campaign began last spring. The first is the remarkable success of self-proclaimed socialist Bernie Sanders, who appears to be mobilizing far more support from lower-income voters than any other Democratic underdog in a generation.
The second fact, evident since the beginning of the campaign but even more visible in recent weeks, is the fierce determination of the Democratic Party elite to nominate Hillary Clinton.
With both Sanders and Donald Trump surging in the polls, many observers have framed the 2016 race as one that pits insurgent populist campaigns against consolidated party establishments. Its easy for this kind of insider versus outsider analysis to become sloppy and conspiratorial. In fact, the contours of the establishment are often difficult to define, and a closer examination frequently reveals several different elite factions facing off against each other.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/02/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-primary-president-iowa-caucus-new-hampshire-primary/
riversedge
(70,235 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)everything is stacked against him. Even though it is Hillary 24/7 on MSNBC and CNN he is still a force to be reckoned with...............poor widdle Bernie??? Nope poor HRC
riversedge
(70,235 posts)finally begun--emphasis on finally --for Sanders. Best buck up and stop whining. Or buy a big bottle of Milk of Magnesia
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)it is propping up one candidate, but you knew that already....
riversedge
(70,235 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)know my eyes were rolling when you wrote "vetting" good job
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)of stating that she will take care of Wall Street, as she takes tons of cash from them. Now that would depend on what she means by "take care of Wall Street." I personally believe that she would give them bigger breaks, the more money that they gave her.
She also did well in stating that she relied on Bush's twisted "facts" on her vote for the Iraq war. Many of us who did our own research came up with the facts that were actually true, and outed the Bush Crime Syndicate on their lies, but the mainstream media never picked up on it. A few politicians, like my former congressman, Maurice Hinchey and one person running for president did listen to us, and voted against the war. Shame on her for helping create what has become ISIL.
polly7
(20,582 posts)you're laughing at the 'poor widdle' people who will benefit from his policies.
Sad.
polly7
(20,582 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Just more proof that Bernie is too soft for the office he seeks.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)to do her own research, and relies on unreliable sources, as she did leading up to the Iraq war.
lostnfound
(16,179 posts)Hey if your woman wins, my stock account can keep climbing and I can assuage my feelings of empathy and loss of America by having a fatter and earlier retirement. How cool is that!
Go, Dystopia! A slower march toward misery than what the pubs are offering.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It's that simple.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)good to see them squirm for a change.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)its not d vs r, its the money power brokers vs the people
frazzled
(18,402 posts)maybe you should get off the Berner.
Running for president is hard. You get scrutinized and attacked from all sides, and from the media as well. You are subjected to all kinds of unfairness. That's how it rollsfor all candidates. Presidenting is even harder. The strong survive. The strong, indeed, transcend all the noise. Those who whine or get angry about are not going to make it.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)is a bit different than what you describe, but thanks for your reply
frazzled
(18,402 posts)is so much easier than thinking. But thanks for your reply.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)to MSNBC all day yesterday and then listened to the post town hall coverage on CNN. Please wake up and smell the coffee..............
frazzled
(18,402 posts)As for the post Town Hall coverage, perhaps that was merited.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)and home bound and can not get proper help do to the high cost.....and I have insurance
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Still, watching those chitter-chatter 24-hour cable channels all day is truly bad for your health--both physical and mental. Really. Watch a classic movie on TCM. Read a good book or magazine. Work on a hobby. Do deep breathing exercises. I've found that a diet of talk TV can be very deleterious to one's outlook on life and the world.
I offer this in all sincerity and with good wishes.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)but needed to see how bias things were and I was not disappointed. Thank you for the good wishes
Are you really going to sit there all obtuse and deny that there isn't a huge favoritism towards Hillary with the MSM and DNC?
if your going to do that, why not go vote Republican, there is little difference in Hillary and many of them
frylock
(34,825 posts)Those kinds of platitudes?
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)lostnfound
(16,179 posts)It's been nauseating this morning. I don't usually watch it in the daytime, but today I am, And it has been nonstop yes about Bernie not being a Progressive because of the gun issue, claiming Bernie is attacking Clinton in a personal way, questions about why in the world are young people supporting Bernie, it must be because they see him as their sweet old 74-year-old grandpa. Clinton spokespeople interspersed with republican candidates, and beating the drum about Bernie's vote on gun liability.
It's amazing how easy it is to herd people. And a Fairmount of surprised that there's a debate about who is more progressive, compared to when Bill Clinton was president and Democrats were running away from the label of liberal. They present this as a confusing phenomenon, and certainly would never utter a word about people being fed up with the results of Neo liberal or trickle-down economics.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And secretly react in glee no doubt, thinking about the shit storm they will unleash on his ass if he becomes the dem nominee.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Bernie would wilt in the heat if everyone fails to fall at his feet in abject worship like the bros.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Don't see him wilting much here:
Does he seem afraid here at all, in any way?
Or in the any dozens of others of examples I've watched him fight the nastiest, ugliest liars.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)GOP conspiracy to get Bernie in the GE
pangaia
(24,324 posts)How can I possibly read the replies when every time I open the thread I have to see that?
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Gin up the outrage.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Not many want to work for a guy with a holier than thou attitude.
frylock
(34,825 posts)because nobody will work with him.