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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:00 AM Feb 2016

I don't see how Warren endorses Clinton

unless and until Hillary clinches the nomination.


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Elizabeth Warren
16h16 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren ?@SenWarren
If anyone in Congress thinks they can make it harder to crack down on corporate criminals, I promise you: The American people are watching.


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Elizabeth Warren
16h16 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren ?@SenWarren
Today I spoke on the Senate floor about our rigged justice system for the rich & powerful. Watch:



Elizabeth Warren
16h16 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren ?@SenWarren
The American people remember who broke our economy & who made out like bandits – and they didn’t send us here to help the bandits.


Elizabeth Warren
16h16 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren ?@SenWarren
Want to see the rigged game in action? Tomorrow, the House will vote on a GOP bill to make it harder to investigate & prosecute bank fraud.


Elizabeth Warren
16h16 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren ?@SenWarren
It’s not equal justice when a kid gets thrown in jail for stealing a car, while a CEO gets a huge raise when his company steals billions.



Elizabeth Warren
16h16 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren ?@SenWarren
We have one set of law on the books, but two legal systems: One for the rich & powerful, and one for everyone

https://mobile.twitter.com/SenWarren?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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I don't see how Warren endorses Clinton (Original Post) cali Feb 2016 OP
What does any of that have to do with Hillary? ProgressiveCentrist Feb 2016 #1
Hillary is not the presidential candidate closely aligned cali Feb 2016 #3
Credibilty with who? ProgressiveCentrist Feb 2016 #4
Credibility from her supporters. The power Warren has is cali Feb 2016 #10
Exactly. You said it better than I tried to downthread. Recursion Feb 2016 #8
Her credibility is at risk to you. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #9
Actually not. But do continue making stuff up. cali Feb 2016 #11
Permission not necessary. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #13
Incoming glue attack!? Hortensis Feb 2016 #12
Who cares. She got Rep John Lewis and Sherrod Brown. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #41
"Progressive Centrist"? Interesting. jalan48 Feb 2016 #5
Oxymoron or Newspeak? kristopher Feb 2016 #32
If Hillary gets the nomination Depaysement Feb 2016 #2
She could conceivably deal a mercy killing to Sanders if this becomes like 2008 Recursion Feb 2016 #7
I see zero upside for Warren endorsing, so I doubt she will before it's foregone Recursion Feb 2016 #6
Spot on PDittie Feb 2016 #28
Warren is just playing typical politics, not endorsing Sanders until she's sure he's viable. Hoyt Feb 2016 #14
Seems pretty obvious Android3.14 Feb 2016 #15
Warren will endors Clinton... stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #16
She did implore her to run for President pandr32 Feb 2016 #18
Bwahaha. Yes she got down on hands and knees, clasped her hands cali Feb 2016 #20
Oh, that's right. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #22
Another hill fan who doesn't know what the word implore means. Love it. cali Feb 2016 #23
Warren won't endors Clinton... Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #19
and monkeys will fly out of my butt dorkzilla Feb 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #17
She'll endorse Clinton. I have no doubts about that. (What's uncertain is when she will do so.) NurseJackie Feb 2016 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #24
Wow. Flat out disgusting, hateful and false in an economy of words. cali Feb 2016 #25
+1 merrily Feb 2016 #26
I actually wasn't the one who alerted on that vomit. cali Feb 2016 #29
I was! I'm sick and tired of the vitriol language by the Clinton supporters here Armymedic88 Feb 2016 #31
Good call. cali Feb 2016 #34
Thank you pinebox Feb 2016 #37
She will endorse... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #30
Nope. Will not happen. morningfog Feb 2016 #33
i doubt she will endorse at all before the convention restorefreedom Feb 2016 #35
Warren has accomplished words as a Senator. That's it ericson00 Feb 2016 #36
Now Hillary supporters throw Warren under the bus, eh? lol pinebox Feb 2016 #38
Holy shit. She was responsible for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau! bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #39
Despicable. RiverLover Feb 2016 #40
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. Hillary is not the presidential candidate closely aligned
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:18 AM
Feb 2016

with Warren's passionate beliefs. If she endorses Hillary before it is clear that Hillary has enough delegates to put her over the top, she risks her credibility.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. Credibility from her supporters. The power Warren has is
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:17 AM
Feb 2016

directly related to that support. Why do you think both candidates want her endorsement?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Exactly. You said it better than I tried to downthread.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:00 AM
Feb 2016

Warren will obviously support the Democratic nominee in the fall, but there's literally zero to be gained for her picking one earlier because she doesn't bring any new voters to Sanders and she wouldn't bring any new voters to Clinton barring a coup de grace kind of scenario if Sanders goes on long past viability.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. Her credibility is at risk to you.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:07 AM
Feb 2016

I'm sure other Sanders supporters agree with you. Progressive individuals and groups credibility has been attacked left and right by Sanders supporters. Even PP wasn't safe from viscous attacks.

As for Warren, I've said for a while she wouldn't personally benefit from endorsing until their is a clear winner. Even at that point she would most likely be given a speaking spot at the convention. Party unification. Warren is an excellent democrat.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. Permission not necessary.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:23 AM
Feb 2016

I can back up every word I wrote with links. Of course I would have to PMthem to you. Seems to be common knowledge and sense though. Didn't realize it was even up for debate.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Incoming glue attack!?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:22 AM
Feb 2016

You nailed it, though, no glue needed. Elizabeth will be an idol if she endorses Bernie, and she'll be dragged through DU mud by her hair if she endorses Hillary.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
32. Oxymoron or Newspeak?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:46 AM
Feb 2016

Newspeak is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by George Orwell. It is a controlled language created by the totalitarian state Oceania as a tool to limit freedom of thought, and concepts that pose a threat to the regime such as freedom, self-expression, individuality, and peace.
Newspeak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. She could conceivably deal a mercy killing to Sanders if this becomes like 2008
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:59 AM
Feb 2016

with Sanders in Clinton's place, but I think that would burn more capital on her part than it would be worth.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. I see zero upside for Warren endorsing, so I doubt she will before it's foregone
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:58 AM
Feb 2016

I can't think of anyone who would be swayed by her endorsement who isn't already supporting Sanders. She knows that; Clinton knows that; Sanders knows that. There's no gain for anyone by her endorsing either candidate.

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
28. Spot on
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:08 AM
Feb 2016

If Clinton closes the gap a little in New Hampshire, takes Nevada and South Carolina, and rolls into Super Tuesday where Texas and several other large delegate counts await and where she currently holds big leads, then an endorsement of Sanders by Warren only minimizes her influence with a grudge-holding Madam President.

Warren will endorse when the time is right for her, and that will be when only one is left standing.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. Bwahaha. Yes she got down on hands and knees, clasped her hands
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:39 AM
Feb 2016

and begged the great Hillary to run. No, she signed onto a letter encouraging hill to run.


Do you even grasp the definition of 'implore'?

verb (used with object), implored, imploring.
1.
to beg urgently or piteously, as for aid or mercy; beseech; entreat:
They implored him to go.
2.
to beg urgently or piteously for (aid, mercy, pardon, etc.):
implore forgiveness.
verb (used without object), implored, imploring.
3.
to make urgent or piteous supplication.

Response to cali (Original post)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. She'll endorse Clinton. I have no doubts about that. (What's uncertain is when she will do so.)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:46 AM
Feb 2016

Will she wait until it's clear that Bernie has no mathematical possibility of being able to win the nomination?

Or will she endorse Hillary before then? It'd difficult to tell.

I could be that she's wanting her endorsement of Hillary to have the biggest possible dramatic effect... she may want to avoid the possibility of having her endorsement of Hillary being "lumped-in" with ALL THE OTHER (the MANY MANY OTHER) endorsements from other Senators and political figures.

Or, she may be delaying to build interest... the "will-she/won't she" question is always a good device to get people on the edge of their seats and paying attention.

She's a smart one. Even if her "heart is with Bernie", perhaps she feels that it would be awkward to endorse someone that may believe has no chance of being the nominee. It's difficult to know for sure. I'm not a mind-reader, I'm just guessing.

But it will certainly be an interesting day on this web site when/if she finally does endorse someone.

Response to cali (Original post)

 

Armymedic88

(251 posts)
31. I was! I'm sick and tired of the vitriol language by the Clinton supporters here
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:39 AM
Feb 2016

Just because we call your candidate out for flip flopping don't judge us especially over the Internet!!

Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
30. She will endorse...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:38 AM
Feb 2016

...the nominee. She's in the running for VP, also... obviously for Bernie, although I think he will pick a "moderate" for balance. Less obviously for Hillary, who may go for gender balance. However, what Democrat would resist either a Clinton/Warren or Sanders/Warren ticket? Not me!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
35. i doubt she will endorse at all before the convention
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:55 AM
Feb 2016

however, if bernie starts getting even more support and taking states, she might endorse him then. then again, if she does it then, it would be much less helpful than if she did it now and might be seen as a no risk latecomer to the bern party

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
36. Warren has accomplished words as a Senator. That's it
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:57 AM
Feb 2016

so I don't really give a sht about what she thinks. She's like a Democratic Ted Cruz; says things the base wants to hear, but responsible for no useful legislation.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
39. Holy shit. She was responsible for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

That "Democratic Ted Cruz" characterization is just flat-out ignorant.

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