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applegrove

(118,674 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 03:45 AM Feb 2016

I trust that both Hillary and Bernie would both enact public health care

if they had a Democratic supermajority in the Senate and Congress when President. But since gerrymandering will keep the Congress in Republican hands in the near and mid future, I'm for the candidate who has other fronts in the fight on inequality and citizens united cronyism.

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I trust that both Hillary and Bernie would both enact public health care (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2016 OP
I think Sanders has many "other fronts in the fight on inequality and citizens united cronyism" californiabernin Feb 2016 #1
I hope that Bernie would adopt Hillary's shadow banking regulations applegrove Feb 2016 #2
He's wanting to reinstate Glass Steagall newfie11 Feb 2016 #5
Uh what? Based on what statements of Clinton? Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #3
That's a practical and rational viewpoint. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #4
I don't trust any politician to do anything (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #6
Mmm. When looking for a candidate who'll represent the public's best interest with respect to winter is coming Feb 2016 #7
 

californiabernin

(421 posts)
1. I think Sanders has many "other fronts in the fight on inequality and citizens united cronyism"
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 04:08 AM
Feb 2016

In my opinion, the best way to get medicare for all is to build a grassroots movement that demands it. Right now, Sanders is building the movement that is demanding it. The political will has to be there. We didn't even have it when Democrats controlled everything. Next time around when we have the power, there needs to be a different outcome. The movement Sanders is building will extend beyond his presidency, and in my view vastly increase the odds for real change. The kind of change private insurance companies don't want.

As for other fronts, Sanders has been outspoken and an advocate of many progressive causes. I have no doubt he would be a fighter on many fronts, and I have no doubt Clinton would be a fighter on many fronts. But I think a Sanders presidency would start from a much stronger position politically. It would be a shock to the system that the system could not ignore. Something would have to give. Not as quickly as we would like, but the wheel would begin turning with the energy and momentum of the movement.

And then there is foreign policy. Philosophically, I am more aligned with Sanders than Clinton in that arena. Everything I hear him say about our role in the world, how best to destroy ISIS, etc., I agree with. Clinton sees the U.S. still too much as the world's policeman, and is too quick to get involved in areas where we have no business. Bad for us, bad for them. The history is there for all to see. Sanders, in my view, has demonstrated superior judgement in world affairs, despite Clinton having traveled to the world.

They are both far better than the alternative. But one of them is way, way better.



applegrove

(118,674 posts)
2. I hope that Bernie would adopt Hillary's shadow banking regulations
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 04:16 AM
Feb 2016

if he wins the nomination. The US is nothing if it does not have a secure economy.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
7. Mmm. When looking for a candidate who'll represent the public's best interest with respect to
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:20 AM
Feb 2016

healthcare, I'd suggest looking for someone who hasn't taken millions of dollars in donations from the insurance and pharmaceutical industries.

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