Call yourself whatever you want HRC.June:progressive; Sept:'pleaded guilty' to being a moderate cent

[merbex]

September '15:'pleaded guilty' to being a moderate center

Please stop playing the victim in NH.

You have switched labels about yourself throughout this cycle........ok, fine, whatever.

So when Bernie Sanders says you are 'progressive some days' he pretty much hit the nail on the head.

He's only trying to keep up with how YOU characterize yourself.

I must admit, I too find it hard to keep track on any given day lately.

So you dug this trench, HRC.

You want people to stop guessing?

No, I think you want to own all the labels and wear whatever suits you on any given day on the campaign trail.

[guillaumeb]

1. It all depends on how you wish to frame it:

Is it pandering,

or being flexible?

Keeping all options open,

or shameless?

[merbex]

3. Who knows? Based on her emails I wonder if she knows youtube exists?

I'm just tired of the conflicting messaging.

And I'm really tired of the 'victim' card, especially over this : she labelled herself and it IS hard to keep track where she is on any given day lately.

[Broward]

2. Keeping track of Hillary's positions is a full-time job.

[Lucinda]

4. Hillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary-clinton-is-liberal/

"...Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clinton’s record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats in her final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members — he was not more liberal than Clinton.

Clinton also has a history of very liberal public statements. Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama..."


That said, she talks about the business of governing from the center. Which is necessary in a representative democracy to make any progress at all. It is pretty much designed to work that way, so one faction cannot pass policy that doesn't represent the majority of the people. The only way we have to counter it, is to outnumber the Reps in congress and maintain those numbers, or it would all flip back again when more Reps were elected.

I think the only way to a permanent progressive country, is to move moderate right voters leftward. Then we would have a clear majority. Not an easy talk with 20+ years of people like Rush and Glenn Beck scaring the crap out of people. But I think Trump's popularity shows that they are beginning to get the fact that their elected politicians are actually making things much worse.

[bkkyosemite]

5. It's about JUDGEMENT or LACK of...