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thereismore

(13,326 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 05:51 PM Feb 2016

"Clinton posing as any kind of friend to Black Americans is ... absurd".


Not long ago I posted a thread about reparations to Black Americans. Mostly, I got criticized. Well, here is a view from the black community that mentions the issue and also has a lot to say about our two candidates:


"Still, Sanders is the rational candidate and Sanders' presidency may still be in Black America's interest. But until he show that he can be less dismissive on a subject near and dear to those who still have grainy plantation photos in cabinets, stories lodged in the memory of aunts being spat on in Jim Crow South, and cousins locked behind privatized prison walls for marijuana trafficking, he should be challenged. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton chauffeured hordes of Blacks and Latinos into the prison industrial complex, describing them as "super-predators" at one point. It would be ahistorical to say the term super-predators doesn't have roots in demonizing African-Americans. In many ways, Clinton posing as any kind of friend to Black Americans is as absurd as O'Malley's similar claims."

http://www.citypaper.com/news/mobtownbeat/bcp-020316-reparations-tariq-toure-20160202-story.html
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"Clinton posing as any kind of friend to Black Americans is ... absurd". (Original Post) thereismore Feb 2016 OP
I agree. You look at the numbers now, and results with the Clinton Welfare Reform Act. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #1
She is a strong member of the culture that has done much damage to the AA community. nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #2
Independents Will Never Vote For A Proven Liar billhicks76 Feb 2016 #11
The Hillarians are trying to inflame a popular false dichtomy between... Odin2005 Feb 2016 #3
Yes, but Bernie should stress issues of race more. It cannot be swept under the rug of economic thereismore Feb 2016 #5
He's trying....With an agenda as big as his, though, it has to cover a lot of issues Armstead Feb 2016 #8
I think you nailed it. He didn't understand why BLM were disrupting his meetings. They were preachin thereismore Feb 2016 #9
I agree. zentrum Feb 2016 #13
Agreed JRLeft Feb 2016 #4
After 3 months in IA Sanders loses PoC vote by 25 points, it seems blacks don't want to be ... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #6
Are they pulling away or pulling toward or are you just making it up as you wish? nt thereismore Feb 2016 #7
20+ point lost days pulling away... 20+ is a big demo loss... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #12
AA support for Hillary angel123 Feb 2016 #17
when she and bill happily kicked their mothers off cash assistance? questionseverything Feb 2016 #22
She Supported Locking Up Black People billhicks76 Feb 2016 #10
Welfare 'Reform' /Crime Bills/ Contributions from Private Prisons/ Supporting Draconian Drug Laws... AzDar Feb 2016 #14
Bring them to heel? Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #20
Ultra priveleged blond haired blue eyed white woman talking about bringing black kids to heel Fumesucker Feb 2016 #21
I'll take Rep John Lewis' word over anonymous blogger any day. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #15
That just proves you didn't bother to read the article. thereismore Feb 2016 #19
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #16
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
1. I agree. You look at the numbers now, and results with the Clinton Welfare Reform Act.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

I know I know, it's not Bill running....

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
11. Independents Will Never Vote For A Proven Liar
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

Might as well concede to the Republicans now if nominate her.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
3. The Hillarians are trying to inflame a popular false dichtomy between...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

...defending the working class on one and helping people of color, women, and LGBT folks on the other. The insinuation by Hillary supporters is that "working class people" means only working class white men.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
5. Yes, but Bernie should stress issues of race more. It cannot be swept under the rug of economic
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

inequality. Not yet anyway.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
8. He's trying....With an agenda as big as his, though, it has to cover a lot of issues
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

Part of that may also be that social justice is so ingrained in his bones, he assumes others recognize it too. Maybe...just a theory

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
9. I think you nailed it. He didn't understand why BLM were disrupting his meetings. They were preachin
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

to the choir. Misdirected outrage hit him, why I don't know. And now we MAY end up with Clinton as a candidate because of it.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
13. I agree.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

But I trust him to actually do the more for minorities than HRC. And his lack of addressing it enough pales in comparison to the real and lasting harm the Clintons did with the Welfare Reform Act and NAFTA and the Prison Reform Act. I will never understand how minorities can overlook these hugely detrimental policies and stand by her.

The immigrant detention centers that are terrifying immigrants today are modeled on Clinton's Prison Privatization.

Why are the Clintons not held accountable?



uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
6. After 3 months in IA Sanders loses PoC vote by 25 points, it seems blacks don't want to be ...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:55 PM
Feb 2016

... Bern Victims and it's just not blacks.

Women, Hispanics, Poor (sans white males), LGBT all lean double digits towards Hillary and its 3 weeks until SC primary where Sanders has to close a 70% spread with 50% of the primary voters there.

The very people the revolution is supposed to be reaching out to are the ones pulling away from Sanders message IA is a tell tale...

20+ point spread in a demographic after 3 months means revolution... against his message

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
18. 20+ point lost days pulling away... 20+ is a big demo loss...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:36 PM
Feb 2016

... No matter if he came back from - 6467487 billion

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

angel123

(79 posts)
17. AA support for Hillary
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:27 PM
Feb 2016

I hope you are not that delusional. AA are not easily fooled. No Sanders will not destroy Hillary in New Hampshire. It will take a lot more for AA to flee the Hillary camp. I am old enough to remember her work for children in the 1990's.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
22. when she and bill happily kicked their mothers off cash assistance?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

is that what you are so fondly remembering ?

or when she called aa youth "super predators"

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
10. She Supported Locking Up Black People
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

Like Biden she is all about the Drug War. The Drug War is treasonous in itself.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
14. Welfare 'Reform' /Crime Bills/ Contributions from Private Prisons/ Supporting Draconian Drug Laws...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

[link:http://

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Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
20. Bring them to heel?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

You mean like the dog command?
So let me get this straight, we need to treat underprivileged kids like dogs? That'll make it better?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
21. Ultra priveleged blond haired blue eyed white woman talking about bringing black kids to heel
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

But Bernie is the real racist.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
19. That just proves you didn't bother to read the article.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

The "blogger" is not anonymous. He has a name, a voice, and an opinion. Your attitude is insulting to him and me.

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