2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum#HillarySoProgressive
Today, Hillary responded to Bernie's comments that she's progressive some of the time by defending herself as a progressive.
Twitter didn't care for that and immediately went to work and is right now calling her out on how she is anything BUT.
#HillarySoProgressive
People are sick and tired of her. Period. Always changing her clothes every hour to fit a new stance.
Enough is enough!
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Says it all, really.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)That made me lol
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)isn't she?
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)the turd way.
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)That prison guard one... that's gotta sting.
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bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)now she is a Progressive. Flip flop! She is trying to wrangle herself out of this hypocrisy. You can't be both! Does she really believe herself because everyone else who has seen both her video's do not.
When she thought she had no threat from Bernie she was a moderate for all those corporations, Monsanto, Wall Street, Goldman Sachs etc. Now that she is in a real run for her money she is all of a sudden a Progressive and acting like Bernie calling her out on it is just ridiculous. Sorry you will find out Hillary that most think it not.
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)Get with the plan!!!!!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)troops to war for profits. You aren't progressive if you tell the banksters (for money) that they are being unfairly treated after they get done ripping off the 99% for $5,000,000,000,000.
She isn't progressive with foreign policy, nor control of the Secret Security State, nor keeping the MIC spending under control, nor with regulating the banks and Wall Street, nor with Free Trade Agreements, nor with environmental protection, helping college students with their loans, protecting SS.
She isn't even progressive on social justice issues. Helped kill the welfare system, supports Prisons For Profits, supports strong drug laws, supports the continued criminalization of medical marijuana, etc.
She was way behind the curve on same sex marriage.
I could go on.
eridani
(51,907 posts)-Planned Parenthood video. Gutless, not leading.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)On banking reform, while Sen Sanders is saying that the banks are too powerful and need to be broken up, she says she wants to "figure out" the best way to address it. Yeah, well how long will it take to "figure it out"?
About the TPP, "she wants to see rules...." Yeah? So what. She doesn't say what she would be against in the agreement. She commits to nothing.
What's her stand on college loans? Something, something, they can get a job.
How about fracking? Used to be all in. Where is she now?
Where does she stand on Prisons For Profits? On the use of marijuana for medical purposes she wants more study. That's open ended. Will she make a decision at the end of the month? Waiting for a specific medical study in process? Or just trying to mollify us with rhetoric?
Some say she has "experience". I agree, she has experience at speaking without actually committing.
kath
(10,565 posts)It's great that so many realize what a freakin' phony she is.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)to say otherwise now?
cali
(114,904 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...does she? News flash, Hillary: People can look up things now!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)How she tends to flip flop XD
"Hillary are you for or against the TPP?"
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)No more Clintons.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)far as I can tell.
Response to pinebox (Original post)
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Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)or #BowDownBernie from last year?
Payback's a bitch
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)Hillary said she was
moderate/progressive/center
Jeez - it's just not as easy as some Clinton supporters think to be clever I guess.
Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)There's a few threads on it.
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)I saw lots of threads with the hashtag - but I'm looking for the actual video that he said it. I've seen the actual video of Clinton saying she was a moderate.
I tried googling Bernie Sanders said "I am black" - but I didn't get a hit. Just the hashtag stuff. So I ask - can you provide me with the link where he says that? If not - then I guess this is what they call a false equivalency.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That was the point of the posts you are replying to.
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Everyone loves her EXCEPT YOU CRAZY UNHINGED SOCIALISTS!!!!
angrychair
(8,702 posts)#Hillarysoprogressive she is friends with Bushs, Trumps and Henry Kissinger
(as poormsnsumbrella)
CSStrowbridge
(267 posts)Look at her fucking track record.
http://www.ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm
100% from NARAL = Progressive
89% from the HRC = Progressive
96% from NCAAP = Progressive
35% from the US COC = Progressive
82% from the NEA = Progressive
100% from the CAF = Progressive
89% from the LCV = Progressive
17% from CATO = Progressive
0% from the Christian Coalition = Progressive
100% from APHA = Progressive
100% from SANE = Progressive
8% from USBC = Progressive
85% from the AFL-CIO = Progressive
100% from the AU = Progressive
80% from the CTJ = Progressive
It seems the people who track her record would call her progressive.
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)CSStrowbridge
(267 posts)BECAUSE HER POSITIONS ARE THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FOR THE AMERICAN POPULATION!!!
She's painted as an extreme leftist by the GOP, but she's not. She's right in the middle of the road as far as most policies are concerned. American is a progressive country, for the most part. There's a very loud conservative minority and there are some strange anomalies depending on how you ask the question. For example, if you ask if there should be more gun control, most Americans say no. If you ask if the gunshow loophole should be closed, most Americans say yes.
Jackilope
(819 posts)CSStrowbridge
(267 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)PWPippin
(213 posts)"Oh, what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive!"
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the people's media...thats why repubs hate it so much
#netneutrality
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Progressives support reinstating Glass-Steagall.
Progressives support breaking up to-big-to-fail banks.
Progressives support prosecuting crooked too-big-to-jail corporate execs.
Progressives support single payer healthcare.
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Progressives think a generous campaign contribution of any kind from a rogue corporation like Goldman Sachs is a bribe.
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, pinebox.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)Everett Mosely
@EverettMosely
15h
#HillarySoProgressive that she called black urban youth "thugs" and "super predators," that - like dogs - needed to be "made to heel."
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Roberto Sandernista
@Gungledink
16h
#HillarySoProgressive She stood against gay marriage for decades until it started polling above 50% with registered voters.
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JimNichols
@JimNichols
16h
#HillarySoProgressive she going to make "no we can't" look revolutionary pic.twitter.com/2Bmn65WrHw
Lorien
(31,935 posts)But some people will never see past labels.
Hillary wants to attack Iran: http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran/5460484
Hillary pushed Fracking on the rest of the planet: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron
Hillary and childhood poverty: http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/
What Hillary calls "feminism" : https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/hillary-clinton-womens-rights-feminism/
Hillary takes millions in campaign cash from her "enemies": http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/10/14/hillary-takes-millions-in-campaign-cash-from-enemies
Bernie has a MUCH better record of accomplishments as Senator than Hillary does: https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/fact-bernie-sanders-got-more-done-in-the-senate-than-hillary-clinton/
When you ask me to vote for Hillary: https://medium.com/@Lookingforrobyn/when-you-ask-me-to-vote-for-hillary-174becdb5ccc#.2ixs3cg5o
Hillary's legacy of pushing the party to the right: http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33869-hillary-clinton-s-ghosts-a-legacy-of-pushing-the-democratic-party-to-the-right
Chomsky: Democrats are now moderate Republicans: http://trofire.com/2015/09/23/noam-chomsky-dems-are-now-moderate-repugs-republicans-are-now-off-the-spectrum-of-reality/
kath
(10,565 posts)bookmarking for later