2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNate Silver and Iowa primaries.
Did he even have this in the cards? With his polling software? I'm really wondering what he said after the tie.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)I still think Sanders' almost win is a bigger win for his campaign than Clinton's almost loss is for hers.
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PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)He predicted she'd win and she won.
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)I was merely posting my own thought, especially as it relates to what I think the OP meant by "this."
But, yeah, Silvers' prediction was accurate. Out of curiosity, though, I still wonder what his math showed.
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DanTex
(20,709 posts)The margin was closer than his polling average, but he got the winner right.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)You shouldn't care what he thinks.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...maybe not in so many words, is that he predicts outcomes, not results. It's a small difference. All he said is "Hillary will win". He doesn't predict percentage results, just the ultimate outcome. Given the actual results, he was REALLY close to being wrong, though.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)He predicted a chance that Clinton would win - 80% the week before, 60% the week of.
So even if Sanders had won, Silver had his 20%/40% chance to still say he was right.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...he's definitely no one to pay attention to.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)... aren't very good at math are you?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)for in Iowa and when I count the number of contests in Iowa where his probabilities played out I only get to one. So in terms of the outcome in Iowa, he was half wrong. His rate of accuracy, 50%. It's not that impressive. Many people taking a pure guess did better than that.
And I am very good at words, Nate is not. His verbiage never even hinted at anything like a tie, never did he say 'too close to call' or indicate he saw a race so tight calling it was difficult. He gave her a big advantage when her advantage was clearly not all that large. And on the Republican side he botched the whole thing.
So his math stuff hit 50% right, 50% wrong. His verbals however offer nothing to spruce up that rather unimpressive half the time rate of success.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)e.g. Clinton has a 78% probability of winning Iowa.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...he doesn't predict the results of a vote by percentage which goes to a candidate. He tries to predict the ultimate outcome.
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)When I started seeing the numbers, I thought the polling was for win percentage.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Hillary won.
Nate silver was correct.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)kcjohn1
(751 posts)Until couple of days out. His projections don't mean anything its very close to the voting day.
For example he had Clinton with 75% chance of winning NH just a month ago. Now it's 90% for Bernie. What has occured in past month to justify huge swing? Nothing. He is just slow to recognize changing political conditions. It doesn't help that he doesn't want egg on his face given how kept saying Bernie has no chance.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)And I'm sure there's an article or two by now. Here ya go: http://fivethirtyeight.com