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Nate Silver and Iowa primaries. (Original Post) PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 OP
Have "this"? What's "this"? Clinton won. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #1
I was confused also. As I recall Nate predicted Clinton winning, which she did, barely. Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #2
Hm. Beartracks Feb 2016 #7
Silver wasn't predicting who would ALMOST win. Or whose campaign would benefit more from that. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #9
Oh, I know. Beartracks Feb 2016 #17
He had Hillary winning. And Hillary won. DanTex Feb 2016 #3
Nate Silver is a snake oil salesman. Dawgs Feb 2016 #4
lol, he's a statistician. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #6
Statistician that's a snake oil salesman. Nt Dawgs Feb 2016 #21
One thing that will quickly be pointed out to you... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #5
It's worse than that. jeff47 Feb 2016 #8
I'm not saying it's not silly... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #10
You guys... jcgoldie Feb 2016 #11
I'm not at all good at math but I can count to two, the number of contests Nate gave probabilities Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #20
He gives probabilities Capt. Obvious Feb 2016 #13
That's what I said... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #14
Thanks for the clarification. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #16
There was no tie Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #12
Old Nate DID NOT predict a statistical dead heat. So he was wrong. nt Romulox Feb 2016 #15
Nate is useless kcjohn1 Feb 2016 #18
You can just go to his website. He was blogging about it that night and the next day JudyM Feb 2016 #19

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
7. Hm.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:25 PM
Feb 2016

I still think Sanders' almost win is a bigger win for his campaign than Clinton's almost loss is for hers.

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PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
9. Silver wasn't predicting who would ALMOST win. Or whose campaign would benefit more from that.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:27 PM
Feb 2016

He predicted she'd win and she won.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
17. Oh, I know.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

I was merely posting my own thought, especially as it relates to what I think the OP meant by "this."

But, yeah, Silvers' prediction was accurate. Out of curiosity, though, I still wonder what his math showed.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. He had Hillary winning. And Hillary won.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:22 PM
Feb 2016

The margin was closer than his polling average, but he got the winner right.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
5. One thing that will quickly be pointed out to you...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:24 PM
Feb 2016

...maybe not in so many words, is that he predicts outcomes, not results. It's a small difference. All he said is "Hillary will win". He doesn't predict percentage results, just the ultimate outcome. Given the actual results, he was REALLY close to being wrong, though.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
8. It's worse than that.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:26 PM
Feb 2016

He predicted a chance that Clinton would win - 80% the week before, 60% the week of.

So even if Sanders had won, Silver had his 20%/40% chance to still say he was right.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. I'm not at all good at math but I can count to two, the number of contests Nate gave probabilities
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 05:28 PM
Feb 2016

for in Iowa and when I count the number of contests in Iowa where his probabilities played out I only get to one. So in terms of the outcome in Iowa, he was half wrong. His rate of accuracy, 50%. It's not that impressive. Many people taking a pure guess did better than that.

And I am very good at words, Nate is not. His verbiage never even hinted at anything like a tie, never did he say 'too close to call' or indicate he saw a race so tight calling it was difficult. He gave her a big advantage when her advantage was clearly not all that large. And on the Republican side he botched the whole thing.

So his math stuff hit 50% right, 50% wrong. His verbals however offer nothing to spruce up that rather unimpressive half the time rate of success.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
14. That's what I said...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

...he doesn't predict the results of a vote by percentage which goes to a candidate. He tries to predict the ultimate outcome.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
16. Thanks for the clarification.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

When I started seeing the numbers, I thought the polling was for win percentage.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
18. Nate is useless
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

Until couple of days out. His projections don't mean anything its very close to the voting day.

For example he had Clinton with 75% chance of winning NH just a month ago. Now it's 90% for Bernie. What has occured in past month to justify huge swing? Nothing. He is just slow to recognize changing political conditions. It doesn't help that he doesn't want egg on his face given how kept saying Bernie has no chance.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
19. You can just go to his website. He was blogging about it that night and the next day
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 04:15 PM
Feb 2016

And I'm sure there's an article or two by now. Here ya go: http://fivethirtyeight.com

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