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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:55 PM Feb 2016

Bernie said something disgusting about Hillary?

MSNBC showed a clip today of Hillary Clinton speaking before a small group,
during which she said she was really disappointed in Bernie Sanders.
She claimed he said something about her that was disgusting, and a real low blow.
What upset her so much?

Bernie said: “Well, I guess Hillary Clinton may be progressive on some issues.”

OMG! How dare he?!

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Bernie said something disgusting about Hillary? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 OP
Great, now he has to stay out in front of a bullshit lie. Oh the campaign of victimhood Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #1
He is just being truthful. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #2
Maybe when it's all over Faux pas Feb 2016 #3
Actually, he's being generous there. Broward Feb 2016 #4
Hillary is trying to play people here. She's the one being disgusting. nt stillwaiting Feb 2016 #5
So now she thinks being called progressive is disgusting? Ino Feb 2016 #6
No. "Hillary Clinton: Sanders' *dig at my progressive credentials* was a 'low blow' PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #9
"Bring me my fainting couch" Armstead Feb 2016 #7
Jeez - does she forget in September that she said she was moderate Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #8
Yes, she stands on ever changing quicksand. virgdem Feb 2016 #56
Maybe Hillary will cliam she's a socialist too? left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #10
I almost spit out my drink SheenaR Feb 2016 #50
Sanders may be progressive on some issues too... he even thinks he can throw stones.... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #11
Taking himself too seriously? Punkingal Feb 2016 #12
Like this post ^^^ uponit7771 Feb 2016 #14
! frylock Feb 2016 #17
So you agree with Hillary? left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #13
I agree Sanders has been minamizing HRCs leftest bonafides for months which relates her more uponit7771 Feb 2016 #15
WHAT leftist bonafides? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #18
see, comes from Sanders mouth and oozes out of the poors of his supporters uponit7771 Feb 2016 #19
Well, list her actual "leftist" bonafides instead of badmouthing me. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #24
Blacks, gays, women, Hispanics and most of the poor (save white males) disagree with you and strongl uponit7771 Feb 2016 #28
If all your positions are right of center, you're hardly a leftist. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #31
Her past accomplishments say different uponit7771 Feb 2016 #34
Walmart is leftist? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #35
No but neither is law suite immunity for corporations... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #36
E&E on your part. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #40
You mean the poor grassroots organizers she did not have the guts to listen to? loyalsister Feb 2016 #57
Hillary has been minimizing HRCs "leftest" bonafides for months frylock Feb 2016 #20
She can be a moderate progressive ... she's left of center... only Sanders camp wants to minimize uponit7771 Feb 2016 #25
She's anything and everything you want her to be! frylock Feb 2016 #29
Including president, seeing Sanders IA PoC numbers that seems closer to reality uponit7771 Feb 2016 #33
Shit! I missed the election? frylock Feb 2016 #38
Maybe, but PoC in IA didn't miss the chance to let Sanders know his message missed them... and women uponit7771 Feb 2016 #41
Can you even fathom how ferocious the backlash is going to be when PoC start breaking for Sanders? frylock Feb 2016 #44
You mean like they did 3 days ago after hearing Sanders message for a whole 3 months? uponit7771 Feb 2016 #46
Hunh? Could you please rephrase? frylock Feb 2016 #51
Do list her progressive accmplishments cali Feb 2016 #21
LMGTFY uponit7771 Feb 2016 #26
Pretty short list there. frylock Feb 2016 #30
Its been posted multiple times... here's the short list uponit7771 Feb 2016 #32
Fought for children and families for 40 years and counting. Too vague. Where's the beef? frylock Feb 2016 #42
He didn't. She is a liar and purveyor of slime. cali Feb 2016 #16
+1 - he was being generous n/t dana_b Feb 2016 #39
Did you ever think you'd see the day a politician would be pitching a fit trying to prove Vinca Feb 2016 #22
Oh My Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #23
And he said on some issues she is a Moderate she can't be both bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #27
"He is sticking to his guns." Yeah, literally. ecstatic Feb 2016 #47
He explained that and it was a good explanation ...seems like you bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #48
The point is, Bernie isn't progressive on all or even most issues. nt ecstatic Feb 2016 #53
And the surrogates are out . . . Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #37
Who is Bernie to decide who's a progressive? Metric System Feb 2016 #52
He's not deciding Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #55
how horrible! did someone call the police? restorefreedom Feb 2016 #43
She so doesn't get it cali Feb 2016 #45
What will we tell the children?! n/t Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #54
I'm sorry, this is the tough-as-nails, gonna go toe-to-toe with Putin Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #58

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
8. Jeez - does she forget in September that she said she was moderate
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

that was the month before she said she was progressive - which was a month before she said we have to govern from the center . . .

She really has no shame.

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uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
11. Sanders may be progressive on some issues too... he even thinks he can throw stones....
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:09 PM
Feb 2016

... he's taking himelf too seriously

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
15. I agree Sanders has been minamizing HRCs leftest bonafides for months which relates her more
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

...to the marginalized and not to Sanders message

IE his poor polling in IA with PoC

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
24. Well, list her actual "leftist" bonafides instead of badmouthing me.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:24 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary has NEVER been a leftist.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
31. If all your positions are right of center, you're hardly a leftist.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:32 PM
Feb 2016

And Bernie's positions on the above are far to the left of Hillary.
And I asked you to LIST her leftist positions, not who might support her.
And I'm far to the left of Bernie.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
57. You mean the poor grassroots organizers she did not have the guts to listen to?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:16 PM
Feb 2016

She skipped the Putting Gamilies First candidated forum. Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders attended and had the guts to answer unscripted questions. When she discovered Hillary dissed us, one of her staffers in attendance quit her campaign.

There were #BLM protesters from STL there wondering where she was. She lost support from people in all of the demographics you listed that day.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
25. She can be a moderate progressive ... she's left of center... only Sanders camp wants to minimize
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

... her 50 years of left leaning work to claim she's not endearing her more to others who've been marginalized than to Sanders and his message

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
41. Maybe, but PoC in IA didn't miss the chance to let Sanders know his message missed them... and women
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

... and gays (possibly, hard to get polling data on LBGT community)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
44. Can you even fathom how ferocious the backlash is going to be when PoC start breaking for Sanders?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:42 PM
Feb 2016

I really hope you're ready for it.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
46. You mean like they did 3 days ago after hearing Sanders message for a whole 3 months?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

... I'll wait, but Sanders has 3 months to make up ground in SC where he's in the teens with black voters...


Half of the primary electorate there

frylock

(34,825 posts)
42. Fought for children and families for 40 years and counting. Too vague. Where's the beef?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

Told the world that “women’s rights are human rights.” Wow. She told the world.

Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad. Uhh.. yeah. Okay. I guess when she wasn't talking about the sacred bond between a man and woman.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
22. Did you ever think you'd see the day a politician would be pitching a fit trying to prove
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:24 PM
Feb 2016

she's a leftie???? LOL. Up is down and down is up. I noticed after the "Morning Joe" panel spent some time wondering why she always yells, she's toned it down a bit.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
27. And he said on some issues she is a Moderate she can't be both
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:27 PM
Feb 2016

He is sticking to his guns...fantastic. flip flop.....

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
47. "He is sticking to his guns." Yeah, literally.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

By the way, is it progressive to protect gun manufacturers?

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
48. He explained that and it was a good explanation ...seems like you
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:50 PM
Feb 2016

are like some I've seen on the TV i.e., Fallon...a question is asked or a statement is made about HRC and he switches it to something else.

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
37. And the surrogates are out . . .
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016
Donna BrazileVerified account
?@donnabrazile Donna Brazile Retweeted Bernie Sanders
Okay, I'm a self identified progressive. But, as an activist, I spent years working for moderates down South. Geez..


So stupid. Who said anything about "working" with moderates. Bernie has spent years working with moderates. What does this have to do with how you self-identify? She makes no sense. She says she self-identifies as progressive. Well Hillary self-identifies as progressive - moderate - and center.

If you are going to tweet, Donna. you should at least make sense!

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
55. He's not deciding
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary decided. One thing in September. Another thing in October. Another thing the other day.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
45. She so doesn't get it
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

<snip>

The question in the long run is whether these disparate intraparty bases of support will hang together in a general election on behalf of the eventual nominee. Certainly similar cleavages in 2008 did not keep Barack Obama from assembling what we now know as the Obama Coalition of young and minority voters and certain categories of women. Since young voters are the most marginal electoral participants of them all, Team Clinton should be especially worried that under-30 voters won't turn out for her in a general election. Indeed, some Republicans fantasize about stealing the youth vote behind a candidate like Marco Rubio, with his whole new-generation, aspirational message (offset, to be sure, by a Reagan-era economic outlook and a Cold War zest for militarism). This is another reason Hillary should be careful about letting her competition with Bernie Sanders become too savage.

<snip>

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/bernie-sanders-and-the-democratic-generation-gap.html

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
58. I'm sorry, this is the tough-as-nails, gonna go toe-to-toe with Putin
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

and other leaders? She's sounding like a big crybaby. She's whining because of that??? Wait till the Republicans get ahold of her.

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