Just a thought... please don't flame me because this is sincere

[LuckyTheDog]

I keep thinking that, if Bernie gets the nomination, he should offer the VP slot to Hillary and vice-versa.

I doubt Hillary would want to be a running mate. Should she turn it down, Martin O'Malley would be a great choice for Bernie. But Bernie should offer it to Hillary because she would be an extraordinary vice president.

Should Hillary be the nominee, I think Bernie would help her with younger voters and first-time voters and also would be a great vice president.

Thoughts?

[artislife]

1. They have different visions of this country.

Neither would be in line with the other leading, so I say no.

[Hortensis]

11. Not really. They differ in what should be done

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right now, not really in eventual goals. Their need as candidates is to promote their own current agendas -- to sell what they each offer voters -- obscures that similarity because they both have to style themselves as very different choices, each the "only" valid one, of course!

But political scientists see them more as mostly...both tomatoes in a mixed produce department. It's how the nation is reacting to their differing messages and labels that is interesting.

[LuckyTheDog]

28. I agree

People have become so rigidly doctrinaire that relatively minor differences in strategy are spun as being "radically different worldviews." I think having someone like Hillary on his team - someone who would challenge him on strategy and offer her own ideas - would make Bernie a better president. The same would be true for Hillary if Bernie was the VP.

[Hortensis]

31. Fine with me, fine with you. Shall we ask them later? :)

[Jackie Wilson Said]

2. Makes a lot of sense on the surface, given the bad blood between the two

candidates supporters.

And having said that I am willing to bet neither would do it.

[Hortensis]

33. Jackie, there is NO bad blood among MOST supporters.

The factionalism at DU is not normal.

In Iowa, a full 80% of the Democratic caucusers said they like both candidates. The Hillary supporters are happy with Bernie as their second choice. The Bernie voters are happy with Hillary as their second choice. Pollster Ann Selzer used the word "respect" to describe the way that 80% feels about the Democratic candidates.

Don't mistake this self-important little political watering hole for America.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

34. Sincere question, is 80% high? For that type of question?

If 20% of those who normally vote on the Democratic side dont vote, isnt than an issue?

I dont know what those numbers usually are so I am asking.

[PyaarRevolution]

35. My parents have both been long time Democrats.

They don't like Hillary and prefer Bernie. They like Obama however. Also, they listen to Thom and are quite aware of NAFTA and the TPP which probably contributes to this.
Well they have also basically called her fake as well, at least my dad. I hear it from my Aunt in Iowa as well, that Hillary just leaves a bad taste in their mouth. Sure they will vote Hillary but they will do so grinding their teeth.

[rogerashton]

3. Either way,

the veep needs to be a younger person.

[LexVegas]

4. He's not ready for that position. Maybe a minor cabinet position or a "czar" of some kind. nt

[cali]

10. He would never agree to serve under her. No way

And why would he? He'll return to the Senate with more clout than any other Senator in the dem caucus. In any case, she will never win.

[cali]

5. Not feasible for either of them

Too old, too northeastern, too white.

[Renew Deal]

6. I don't think that's a good idea

Why would he want her baggage and entourage? It would undermine his message.

[firebrand80]

7. Not a good fit either way nt

[LuckyTheDog]

24. Because it's not about him

Helping ensure a win for Hillary saves the country from a Republican president.

[firebrand80]

25. I don't think he really helps her

and vice versa

[NurseJackie]

8. I doubt it would have the effect that you may imagine. Besides ...

... I don't believe that either one would be able to work well with the other. There wouldn't be any unity or sameness of vision and methods. They'd constantly be at odds with each other.

It would never work. Besides... an "all New England" ticket (NY/VT) wouldn't give any strategic regional advantage, and could likely be something that would harm the campaign.

[cali]

13. Do try to learn something so basic, nurse. New York is not part of New England

You didn't learn that in elementary school?

[KamaAina]

17. Most New Yorkers, especially NYC people, would take umbrage at that

Yankee fans hate the Red Sox, and Jets fans hate the Patriots!

[zipplewrath]

22. I always get a chuckle

Yes, this is true, but you'd be surprised about how many folks west of the Mississippi don't see nor care much about the distinction you are making. "New England" to them is a reference to the northern eastern seaboard and stretches from DC to Maine. Historically wrong, but politically accurate for anyone outside of that area.

We get similar issues with the expression "out west" which in Manhattan means anything west of Pittsburgh. However, as you go west, you have the "Midwest" and the "Plains States". "The west" usually includes mostly states south of Colorado and Iowa and east of California. Then you have the "Northwest" which is vaguely from Montana and Idaho to Washington. These expressions, in a political context, tend to be external in nature more than internal.

The posters real point was that the two candidates, to many, would be considered from roughly the same region, which is kinda funny for Clinton who is an Illinois girl from Arkansas.

[Hortensis]

40. Good perspective.

As a Californian, most of the rest of the country was somewhere far beyond the vast stretches of mostly empty deserts and plains to the east. California's so big and varied -- and so wealthy, advanced and independent -- that it feels sort of like a country in itself. Politically, from far away the northeast states are, well, a fussy area on the far corner of the map, with NYC and lots of historic sites to visit, but only go there part of the year.

Here, the South is so full of its own identity and conservative, religious virtue that the many chances to learn from the many, massive mistakes of the rest of the nation that 100 years of non-development gave it were discarded like so many used tea bags. The Atlanta area would look like Los Angeles now if Mother Nature didn't sprout endless millions of tree seedlings to refill their scorched earth. To the South, there is no difference between NH and NY politically.

[bettyellen]

32. spreading the sunshine again!

[mythology]

38. If you're going to talk about things that should have been learned in elementary school

it's probably then fair to ask if you learned basic civility and playing well with others that most of the rest of us learned back then.

Is it really so hard to not be condescending and belittling to everybody you don't agree with?

[dogman]

9. Neither one helps the other.

In the words of Robert Reich:"Hillary is clearly the most qualified candidate for the system we now have. Bernie is clearly the most qualified to create the system we should have and need"

[Kalidurga]

12. If Bernie picked her it would tank his campaign.

If Hillary picked him, well it wouldn't even help in the slightest. It might hurt actually. She needs to pick someone like Julian Castro. Bernie needs someone like Nina Turner.

[BooScout]

14. No

[NCTraveler]

15. No flames.

Simple fact that can be seen throughout Sanders career is that he goes solo. He isn't into coalitions or support building. VP isn't his thing.

I would rather have Clinton doing work for the foundation then being VP.

[Dems to Win]

16. No thanks

Either Bernie or Hillary need a VP no older than 60. Both to have the best chance the VP will be healthy if the Pres dies, and also to have some chance that the VP can go on to run in 8 years.

[TheBlackAdder]

18. I was thinking that HRC would be great, then this Snopes verified false rumor popped to mind.

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp


The thought then came, "Would I want to take that chance it's false?"


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As far as HRC, she needs someone who she has a rapport with, and gels on issues.

Sanders might cause conflicts within her administration.


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[Tien1985]

19. If Clinton gets the nomination,

I'd hope Sanders would stay in the senate.

Wishful thinking on my part, I'd like to see Elizabeth Warren as the running mate of either of them. I was hoping she would run.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. He should have a younger, PROGRESSIVE VP. NO! to HRH. That's the last person he should choose.

CLINTON would be the worst possible choice for VP. Nina Turner would be GREAT, Barbara Lee would be GREAT, Keith Ellison would be GREAT, Elizabeth Warren, etc...ABC!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[FSogol]

21. I see a lot of people on the internet suggest that every election*. It never happens in real life.

* I suspect that it is a side effect of popular tv on American Culture. In most shows and sit-coms, whatever happens can be neatly solved and cleaned up in 1/2 or 1 hour and the characters are back in their pre-show position.

As much as I approve of O'Malley, I'm not sure he is a fit for either candidate's vp spot.

[backtomn]

26. I realize that it might be unifying, but....

......the party needs some "bench strength" (damaged by so many losses for the party during the last 8 years) and an attempted coronation of Hillary. They should consider more youthful running mates. I don't think that we need to run a team of septuagenarians.

[HassleCat]

29. Already spoken for

Clinton has all but promised it to Castro.

[kennetha]

30. Way too old, each of them, for the other to be the VP.

Their combined ages would be an astronomical number.

[PyaarRevolution]

36. This.

I think that's the big reason why it won't happen. Both Hillary and Bernie will support someone younger.

[Laffy Kat]

37. I was thinking Castro.

I know he's considered a potential RM for HRC, but he'd be a great choice for either. He's young, Hispanic, would bring in the SW region votes. He does lack foreign policy experience is the only thing and I guess that could be a deal-breaker.

[demwing]

43. Castro would be a bad choice for Bernie, for three reasons (two of which aren't very fair)

1. He's too young, and would make Bernie look older

2. Imagine the campaign sign...

3. I think Castro is beholden to the very forces Bernie wants to fight.

A female House rep, POC-possibly a veteran-would be ideal.

[Laffy Kat]

44. True. Totally agree with having a woman. nt

[winter is coming]

39. No. n/t

[Ken Burch]

41. It's a possibility.

Myself, I'd like to see HRC get nominated for the next Supreme Court position. It's life-time and she could do the progressive parts of her views without any of the war stuff.

[loyalsister]

42. No.

There is a good chance that they will be running against someone who is young enough to be their kid. We are already at a major disadvantage because in that match up the older candidate has lost in all modern elections except the one where Carter had an October surprise and his opponent was an actor who looked younger on the stage than either of our current candidates.
It is not known how far into his presidency that nature started to take it's predictable course, but we are ignoring the cautionary nature of the fact that Reagan had Alzheimer's during part of his presidency.
We need a young VP who will be able to realistically run in 2024.