I proudly stand with Nevada DREAMer Activist , Astrid Silva in her endorsement of Hillary Clinton

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Astrid Silva, a prominent immigration activist whose close relationship to Nevada Sen. Harry Reid put her in the middle of the Dream Act and executive action fights, told BuzzFeed News she is endorsing Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
The formal announcement, set to come in a Univision op-ed Wednesday, comes months after Silva sat down with Clinton for a key campaign immigration event.
Silva said she made up her mind after attending a Donald Trump rally where an Army veteran friend of hers was dragged out by members of the crowd. To her, Clinton is the candidate who will fight that culture and fight for immigration, whether it’s a legislative overhaul or defending Obama’s actions.
“My dad had his stay of removal extended for a year, but I don’t what’s going to happen,” Silva said. “My parents just became grandparents, and with Secretary Clinton it’s about knowing Noah is going to have his grandma and grandpa.”
Silva appeared at a Clinton event on May 5 of last year, where Clinton said she would support Obama’s executive actions and go farther if Congress wouldn’t.


http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/prominent-nevada-dreamer-activist-endorses-hillary-clinton#.uiW6gxR

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Thank you for kicking my thread and may the day bring you everything you deserve./nt

[JaneyVee]

5. Love the sexism!

Bernie doesn't have to be "warm", he gets to shout, and wave his arms around, and not comb his hair. But you expect Hillary to have to be "warm". Ok got it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. That's how they roll.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Thank you for your opinion and I will surely assign it the weight it is worth.

DSB

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. If you believe the words of a random internet poster

If you believe the words of a random internet poster carry as much weight as your generic endorsement there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.


Folks are talking about Ms. Silva's endorsement, not mine and not your lack of one.

[JaneyVee]

11. You're basing your entire argument on your own opinion.

YOU believe it is "forced". YOU believe it is "unnatural".

Have fun arguing with yourself. Down the rabbit hole we go. Weeeeeeeee!

[JaneyVee]

19. Yeah, FOX News agrees with you totally!

Now, back to reality: Hillary voted most admired for 20th time.

[BlueCaliDem]

46. But-But-But they're ALL WRONG! Only anonymous newbies on DU are right!

[TCJ70]

9. Not viewing someone as warm...

...is not sexist, it's how that person comes across to them.

I see Hillary as condescending and fake. Is that sexist? I see Bernie as loud and a little grumpy. Is that sexist?

[uponit7771]

42. +1, its subtle ... thank you for outlining the woman tax placed on Hillary in this campaign

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. It reminds me of another tax...

It reminds me of another tax where the person has to do the job twice as well as his or her counterpart to get the same praise.

[uponit7771]

53. Yeap, they can't even acknowledge here win in Iowa...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

56. I would have been kicked off my jv basketball team if I didn't congratulate the winning team./nt

[Quayblue]

100. lol!! nt

[CorkySt.Clair]

15. And Bernie rarley appears on TV without a pile of dandruff on his collar

None of these candidates are perfect. But by all means, lets keep tearing them down for superficial reasons.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. She strikes ne as a warm and empathetic person

It's not just superficial

t tells us something about what she's like inside. She strikes me as a sociopath.

Philos

She strikes me as a warm and empathetic individual and as a warm and empathetic individual myself I know a warm and empathetic individual when I see one.

[elias49]

92. Whatever you say!

You sound rather prickly to me.

[BlueCaliDem]

32. Is that the reason why civil rights icon, John Lewis, has endorsed her? Or Bernie's ex-colleagues in

the House are flocking around her, not him? Because they're all sociopaths? Or is it because they know him and her better than you apparently do?

Don't you ever ask yourself why out of hundreds of Democratic U.S. Reps and Senators who know Bernie for decades and know him BEST, have chosen to endorse Hillary Clinton instead? Maybe you should.

[BlueCaliDem]

43. So you're just going to embrace your CT in lieu of reality, eh?

And yes, they're benefiting from the Hillary Clinton campaign - to the tune of $18 million that she's successfully fundraised for down-ticket Democrats.

What has Bernie done for them laaaaaytely? How about a big fat GOOSE EGG.

[Thinkingabout]

101. Good point, not looking for any support, must not going to need it.

[BlueCaliDem]

110. It's because he's not taking winning this campaign seriously. But he's sure raising lotsa cash!

He must feel like those elites he's constantly harping about.

[Thinkingabout]

111. No, not serious.

[uponit7771]

50. So everyone who supports Hillary are self centered selfish folk .... really?! Come one people

... we're way to emotionally vested in these candidates

[BlueMTexpat]

41. If that's your take, then one really has to

wonder about you - especially since you just joined DU today, apparently so that you can spew irrational and nasty posts about Hillary.

Please crawl back under your rock.

[CorkySt.Clair]

51. Yes, I'm quite sure you believe that

[emulatorloo]

79. Welcome to DU and thanks for your armchair psychoanalysis

Please send some photos of yourself and I will be more than happy to diagnose you too.

[emulatorloo]

84. Tell me more, Dr. Frist.

And where are those pics of you I asked for? Still anxious to get you a quick diagnosis.

[1StrongBlackMan]

90. And anonymous internet message board posters ... Don't forget about that connection, as well. eom

[beachbum bob]

16. I don't need a leader to be warm...hell its the last thing I'm concern about

I need a leader who leads, make decisions and makes the hard tough calls....and you don't get that by railing on the House floor or the Senate floor about how unfair things are...you get that by being in the room making the decision to take out Bin Laden or sending the drones at ISIS....I love bernie to death...but he never had to be "the decider"...He speaks on the "social conscience" of america and we need that voice and those issues discussed...and of course the Bernie forum chose to ban me instead of having any level of discussions....after I dared to say bernies electable in a general election is just about zero chance when you consider how the righwing media machine will dissects him....too many bernie supporters are way to thinned skinned and want to control/censor what is said as much as any batshit crazy conservative group...so I applaud them for shirking away...really demonstrate some guts there

[BlueCaliDem]

55. ^^^This!^^^

[BuddhaGirl]

96. +1000

This is the same argument I have with Bernie supporters....there IS a bigger picture to consider

[MoonRiver]

22. The vast majority of Democrats disagree with those sexist statements.

But thank you for your concern.

[MoonRiver]

37. Hillary's popularity among DEMOCRATS is sky high. Bernie NOT SO MUCH.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/13/poll-hillary-clintons-image-among-democrats-much-stronger-than-bernie-sanderss/

Oh, and what does having a list of cold men have to do with sexism?

[BlueCaliDem]

30. Really?

I beg to differ, not only because of this image, but because she's gotten all her ex-colleagues and ex-colleagues of Bernie to endorse her already/



So your opinion is biased and ill-informed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. She is so warm...

Couldn't you find one of her kissing a baby?

-Philos

She is so warm babies kiss her.

[MoonRiver]

39. Who is "he?"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. Muammar Gaddafi raped pre-pubescent boys and girls.

"...We came. We saw. He died. {Hysterical laughter}..."

-Philos

Muammar Gaddafi raped pre-pubescent boys and girls. No need to celebrate his life or mourn his passing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

54. Here...

http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.570727


Slight edit- he raped teenagers. That's a distinction without a difference.

Again, I don't celebrate the life or mourn the death of rapists and dictators.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. That's like saying John Wayne Gacy was a human being.

Not asking you to celebrate or mourn them.
Just don't joke about their brutal murders. Gaddafi was still a human being. And if you're Secretary of State, you should be showing more discretion than joking about it on national television.

That's like saying John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer were human beings. I oppose the death penalty but I am not remotely sad some people are gone. Some people literally deserve to die, just not at the state's hand.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. Lots of folks were happy when Hitler killed himself in his bunker...

But making crass, tasteless jokes about murder is not exactly the hallmark of a truly warm human being. In fact, it's exactly the sort of behavior you'd expect from someone like John Wayne Gacy.

If you believe the victim and the victimizer are on the same moral plane there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. Interesting I bring up Hitler. You bring up Hillary. /nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. If you believe, redux

We can get sanctimonious about people who are dictators
But politicians like Hillary probably have more in common with them than we'd like to think

If you believe Hillary Clinton and a man responsible for the murder of 20,000,000 Jews, Roma, gays, Catholics, communists, and dissidents has anything in common with Hillary Clinton there is nothing i can do to disabuse you of that notion.

I do wonder how Senator Sanders, who lost family in the Shoah, would feel about your observation.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. No more blood on her hands than most of her leaders

No more blood on her hands than most of her leaders, none of whom I would compare to the man who threw the entire world into chaos.


That's akin to arguing if I go fishing I might kill Flipper.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

76. Being a hawk

Being a hawk and killing 20,000, 000 innocent people by gas, by starvation, and by mass executions are mutually exclusive.

But, hey, what are 20,000,000 dead innocents, any way to the person who informed me , mere minutes ago, I should mourn for Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, and Muammar Gaddafi; a talking point is a talking point !

[DemocratSinceBirth]

81. Let's disentangle this

Anyway, back to an earlier point. If you can dehumanize people like Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, and Gaddafi to the point where you think they deserve to die

They spilled the blood of innocents. While I do not believe the state has the right to take a person's life I do not mourn their passing.

you're only a step away from doing it to Jews, dissidents, homosexuals, gypsies, etc.

They were the innocents whose blood was spilled.

The murderer and his victim do not occupy the same moral space.

To argue the contrary is to occupy a space of moral bankruptcy.


I will leave you with this, for now.


Did the judges at Nuremberg share the same moral culpability as those they were judging?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

85. Morality is the province of the community.

Morality is the province of the community. There are acts in and of themselves that are inherently wrong, like killing 20,000,000 innocent people.

[BlueCaliDem]

38. Good comeback!

[elias49]

93. Hahahaha! I like it.

The new Hillary meme: "babies seek her out and kiss her"

Beyond sublime.

[BlueCaliDem]

35. This is one in Iowa, a very RECENT picture. I have plenty more, but you're not interested in the

truth. You're only interested in your own false narrative and in tearing down the Democratic front-runner who makes Republicans shake in their $400 dollar dress shoes - and that ain't Bernie.

Assuming you're intelligent, you must know this doesn't help Sanders - that is, IF he's the one you're supporting. Hard to tell these days.

At any rate, I'd choose the face on the left over the grouchy one on the right any day.

[BlueCaliDem]

58. Yeah, cuz grumpy will work well with Heads of State in foreign countries.

Putin especially will be intimidated when Bernie does what he does best: storm out of the room when he doesn't get his way. If that's a plus-point in your little book, your book needs some serious editing - preferably by an adult.

Yeah, he's got real leadership skills there.

[BlueCaliDem]

64. Really? Because he's only showed that side when he doesn't get his way.

NO ONE is saying he's senile. He's as sharp as a tack and I have no doubt he can stand toe-to-toe with anyone - just as long as he learns to curb his temper...something he really needs to work on.

[BlueCaliDem]

74. Well, that's what it's going to take to continue to support him because facts and experience

are frighteningly thin on his side in order to continue to believe he's presidential material.

[BlueCaliDem]

89. Yeah. It's the meme Republicans were touting, but anyone with more than half a working brain

could check President Obama's impressive legislative history on the local, State, and Federal level before he decided to run for President and see what a lie that "inexperience" was. And yes, I was well aware that the Clinton campaign was trying to sell that, too, but in light of the facts, that line of attack fell flat.

The inexperience line of attack will work with Sanders - a man who didn't enjoy a steady paycheck until he became Mayor of Burlington at 40. What Sanders did before that time is unclear. I believe he was a freelance carpenter or something.

[cali]

40. I actually think she has a nice smile

[uponit7771]

63. +1

[santafe52]

86. That's funny

As much as like Bernie, I am always really bothered by his fake smile. He is very uncomfortable smiling, like he has to remind himself to do it every once in awhile.

[nyabingi]

95. Look at her cold eyes...

...they should tell you a lot more about her than her forced, fake grin.

[snort]

97. Looks fair, feels foul?

[mcar]

3. K&R

[JaneyVee]

7. K AND R!

[hobbit709]

13. It takes a contortionist to stand in that many directions at one time.

[oasis]

20. Hillary continues on her "Listening Campaign". She's receptive

to the concerns of ordinary folks throughout the country and they know she's the one who has the ability to deliver.

[hobbit709]

21. Especially when she hears the rustle of money.

[oasis]

26. I'm sure Astrid Silva hasn't the income to bankroll Hill's campaign.

[tecelote]

80. She'll deliver regime change and more war.

If she listens, then she will know most Americans want to end the wars and stop the killing.

[LexVegas]

24. Something about HRC's appearance or voice in 3...2....too late. nt

[Broward]

25. Hillary will only take a stand if she thinks it will benefit her politically.

[BlueCaliDem]

27. And she *should*. Senator Hillary Clinton voted for the 2007 comprehensive immigration reform

bill, unlike any of her opponents.

[Iliyah]

28. I stand with Ms. Silva toooooooooooooooo

: applause:

[BlueMTexpat]

49. Thanks for the post, DSB!

Congratulations to Astrid Silva!

[BlueCaliDem]

62. Excellent post, DSB! Thank you for sharing. I stand with Astrid Silva!

Senator Hillary Clinton vote FOR the 2007 immigration bill. Bernie voted AGAINST it. Astrid Silva made a sound choice.

[Nanjeanne]

75. I proudly stand with DREAMer Activist Cesar Vargas and Senator Sanders

Good for all the DREAMers getting involved.

[Sancho]

94. One of Hillary's best planks! A path to citizenship and social justice!

[MisterP]

98. hey, the PRI gets plenty of genuine votes among Mexicans, too

[shenmue]

99. Yes!!

[Romulox]

102. If that DREAMer stood with Bernie, you'd be tearing her down. Whatever Hillary says, basically. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

107. Please cite one instance where I discredited someone for endorsing Senator Sanders.

Thank you in advance.

[Iliyah]

103. Endorsement from the NV Dreamers Group forthcoming

K & R

[Hekate]

104. Many thanks to those in this thread who provided direct quote from Name Removed....

I'm always feel I've missed a little something whe a troll is disposed of before I can even see what they've done.

[Beacool]

106. Me too!!!

[Beacool]

105. Thank you, Astrid!!!

Wonderful endorsement.

[riversedge]

108. @SenatorReid goes after key Sanders operative for mocking DREAMER endorsements of Hillary.

Tweet:Jon Ralston @RalstonReports

.@SenatorReid goes after key Sanders operative for mocking DREAMER endorsements of Hillary. https://twitter.com/ErikaAndiola/status/694921445839921153 …





>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Here is the tweet that Harry Reid hit on. Good for him.




Erika Andiola @ErikaAndiola

Proud Undocumented and Unafraid Mexican-American. Organizer and fighter. National Latinx Press Secretary for Presidential Candidate @BernieSanders
Burlington, VT

Erika Andiola @ErikaAndiola

Difference btw showcasing "Dreamers" & organizing w/ "Dreamers"? 1 will get you a press hit, other 1 will build political power #FeelTheBern


10:32 AM - 3 Feb 2016
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Darren Hutchinson ?@dissentingj 6h6 hours ago

@ErikaAndiola Proof that Berners are young and immature. What the?
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Paula Simpson ?@paulasimpson13 5h5 hours ago

@dissentingj She might be that, and we can excuse as such, but why did Bernie retweet it? That is the most egregious aspect of this.
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Roni ?@paleblueeyes24 5h5 hours ago

@paulasimpson13 @dissentingj She was hired by BS as a Latino outreach strategist.
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Paula Simpson ?@paulasimpson13 5h5 hours ago

@paleblueeyes24 First West and now this. He doesn't hire well. @dissentingj
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Roni ?@paleblueeyes24 5h5 hours ago

@paulasimpson13 @dissentingj But he'll be awesome as President. *rolls eyes*
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Susan J. ?@Montysj 5h5 hours ago

@ErikaAndiola #BernieSanders get a grip on your petulant children. They WILL be your eventual downfall.
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Roni ?@paleblueeyes24 5h5 hours ago

@Montysj @Vicious2707 @ErikaAndiola Marco Rubio is starting to look pretty good. 😉

[Beacool]

109. If Erika Andiola works for the sanders campaign, then she should apologize to Astrid.

Politics may be a contact sport, but politicians learn quickly that they can't win them all. This young woman should have a little better manners, if she's indeed representing the Sanders' campaign. These kind of comments always make the candidate look bad, be it Sanders or anyone else.