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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:54 AM Feb 2016

Insiders Predicted That Bernie Sanders Would Be No Threat to Hillary

Insiders Predicted That Bernie Sanders Would Be No Threat to Hillary Clinton
by Zaid Jilani
The Intercept
2/2/16

The stunning virtual tie between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in Iowa came after months of mainstream media pundits and leaders of the political establishment confidently predicting that Sanders would be no match for Clinton’s electoral machine there — or anywhere, for that matter.

“For now, Hillary Clinton has nothing to worry about as she prepares for the Iowa caucuses,” Bloomberg political reporter John McCormick wrote last May. “Despite a wave of influence-peddling allegations involving her family’s foundation, her prospects for winning the first-in-the-nation presidential contest remain undamaged.” McCormick cited a Quinnipiac poll showing Clinton capturing 60 percent of the vote in Iowa to Sanders’ 15.


There is no candidate who appears to have the political and financial resources at this time to successfully take her on.” (Peter A Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll)


Enten also noted in June that one of the “foundational flaws” in the Sanders candidacy is that he “hasn’t been able to figure out how to earn more than 5 percent of the nonwhite vote.” In the latest New York Times/CBS News national poll, 27 percent of nonwhite voters are now behind Sanders.


The Times’s Nate Cohn wrote in April that the Sanders candidacy won’t “change the fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton is poised to win the Democratic nomination without a serious contest.” Citing polls showing that a significant number of Democratic voters self-identify as moderates, Cohn said that “the left wing of the Democratic Party just isn’t big enough to support a challenge to the left of a mainstream liberal Democrat like Mrs. Clinton.”


“There is Bernie Sanders, but I don’t think a lot of people seriously believe that he is really a viable challenger. He’s more of a protest candidate,”


Buzzfeed’s D.C. editor John Stanton used a March appearance on MSNBC to say Sanders is “not a really like a serious candidate in terms of, you know, posing a serious challenge to her.




GO Bernie!!!

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Insiders Predicted That Bernie Sanders Would Be No Threat to Hillary (Original Post) RiverLover Feb 2016 OP
She's won one and is far ahead in 47 states containing 98% of Americans. nt onehandle Feb 2016 #1
OK RiverLover Feb 2016 #2
2- or 3/10ths of a percent... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #25
Failed attempts at self-fulfilling prophesy. They tried to fashion the result. merrily Feb 2016 #3
For once, & not a moment too soon. RiverLover Feb 2016 #4
I shouldn't have said "no one." Media does have a huge influence on many people. merrily Feb 2016 #5
& Thank you, Internet. MSM is still able to manipulate views, but with the www. RiverLover Feb 2016 #7
True. However, all the big media outlets are also on the net. merrily Feb 2016 #8
Didn't he though. He's running a really smart campaign. RiverLover Feb 2016 #9
From the Department of Shameless Self-Promotion merrily Feb 2016 #11
Uh oh.... Fumesucker Feb 2016 #15
LOL RiverLover Feb 2016 #24
What he has accomplished is amazing. SamKnause Feb 2016 #6
Indeed, plenty of people to be grateful for! RiverLover Feb 2016 #10
Going down? She won and has huge leads in 40 other states. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #12
"Bernie Sanders 2016. Fuck yeah!" Hillary is not the only one who "evolves," eh, Janey Vee? merrily Feb 2016 #13
In a state where she had at one time a 45 pt lead, she virtually tied. RiverLover Feb 2016 #14
You know, the day Sanders announced, I looked up his voting record and immediately PatrickforO Feb 2016 #38
How sad... SoapBox Feb 2016 #16
Andrea Mitchell: Clinton Camp was in a "meltdown" antigop Feb 2016 #17
May there be more. RiverLover Feb 2016 #26
Still waiting on ,, Cryptoad Feb 2016 #18
Link to that claim kplzthx? frylock Feb 2016 #21
That's a new one. RiverLover Feb 2016 #27
No. kenfrequed Feb 2016 #30
Insiders have to let go of the old model The Wizard Feb 2016 #19
Her people sat around a big conference table and came to the conclusion they lost last time,.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #40
Per Hillarian logic, all those predictions are negated because some anonymous poster on DU.. frylock Feb 2016 #20
Clickety Click! RiverLover Feb 2016 #28
Yup +1 kenfrequed Feb 2016 #31
The insiders wanted it to be true so they believed it. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #22
What's happening?? DeeDeeNY Feb 2016 #23
LOVE this segment!!! Hillarious! RiverLover Feb 2016 #29
Love it, thanks. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #32
Right? I mean... davidthegnome Feb 2016 #33
K&R - Sanders shot across Hillary's bow. BOOM!! n/t 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #34
If It Wasn't for Sites Like DU gordyfl Feb 2016 #35
From the Very Beginning the Coronation the MSM Tried to Push Was Bound to be Pushed Back On DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #36
Bernie's more of a protest candidate, is it? PatrickforO Feb 2016 #37
There were similar things written about Obama.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #39

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. She's won one and is far ahead in 47 states containing 98% of Americans. nt
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:57 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
25. 2- or 3/10ths of a percent...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

... they're still disputing that one tenth - can barely be considered a "WIN" at all. And given how horrifically wrong the polls have been thus far, you might not want to hitch your wagon to any of 'em. Try hitching it to a team of unicorns; they're more reliable indicators than any of those hammer head pollsters that call themselves "experts." I can't believe that those guys get paid to be wrong.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. I shouldn't have said "no one." Media does have a huge influence on many people.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:05 AM
Feb 2016

Thank heaven, it wasn't enough to bury Bernie in Iowa.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
7. & Thank you, Internet. MSM is still able to manipulate views, but with the www.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:15 AM
Feb 2016

it doesn't have such a hold on US anymore.

Its actually helping us see their propagandizing ways more clearly too. We're able to view through the filter of skepticism. Many of us, anyways.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. True. However, all the big media outlets are also on the net.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:20 AM
Feb 2016

I think a lot of it is "word of mouth" but also including as "mouth" things like reddit and Twitter. Bernie is so inspiring and plain spoken and ran all over the country for rallies.

At first, I thought, geez, just focus on the early states, then spread out. Great, 30,000 in L.A. but when is California's primary? In hindsight, he knew what he was doing.

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
6. What he has accomplished is amazing.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:12 AM
Feb 2016

History will be very kind to this great man.

I respect, admire, and trust his judgment.

FEEL THE BERN

A sincere THANK YOU to all who have worked or donated to make this possible.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. In a state where she had at one time a 45 pt lead, she virtually tied.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:51 AM
Feb 2016

There were even coin tosses! lol

Huge leads in 40 other states maybe todays headline, but just like with Iowa, things can change.

And we Hope for Change, most of us anyways. More people will be getting on the Bern Train, that's for sure.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
38. You know, the day Sanders announced, I looked up his voting record and immediately
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:44 PM
Feb 2016

FELT THE BERN.

He flies coach, he wears shabby sweaters and off the rack suits, he does NOT live in a mansion and his net worth is under $350K. He represents me BETTER than any presidential candidate in my voting lifetime, for sure.

Everyone else is telling us that we CAN'T have what we want; instead we'll have to settle for a nice forever war and far fewer things that would actually help us.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
18. Still waiting on ,,
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:10 PM
Feb 2016

that Landslide Victory that Bern predicted! Anybody else seeing a pattern to Bern BS?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
30. No.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

You don't get to try to play "comeback kid" on a tie when most of the polls had hillary ahead by 3-5%. I am sorry, but basing her "comeback" or "victory" on a tie because some overly enthusiastic DU'ers said Bernie was going to win is absurd.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
19. Insiders have to let go of the old model
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:13 PM
Feb 2016

Raising corporate cash for TV ads is so 1990s. The one who seizes the Internet and uses that power most effectively wins. Hillary lost in 08 because she adhered to the old model.
The Internet and TV remote have marginalized 1990s election strategy.
Don't get me wrong. I like Hillary and will vote for, and support her should she be the candidate.
The idea of getting enough fence sitters to come over to your side so as to effect an election is ineffective with the current political tribal climate . The name of the game is energizing the base, and the Republicans with their propaganda network have convinced their cult that Democrats are the mortal enemy and must be destroyed. They always come out to vote because they're convinced they will all die if Democrats are elected. Pox News and hate radio have perfected the propaganda techniques established by Joseph Goebbels. The radical right wing propagandists have their cult believing that minorities are stealing their tax money and their jobs, and that Democrats enable minorities and are the reason the ignorant bigots are victims.
They are indeed victims, but victims of those they blindly support out of the worst fears and lowest instincts.
Bernie's message of leveling the playing field through universal health care and education at the expense of the wealthy elites who have gamed the system since Reagan snookered the masses in 1980 is gaining momentum. The idea that we can't get good things done to promote the general welfare as prescribed in our Constitution's preamble runs counter to the American can do spirit.
We can, we will and we must make opportunities for the working class a reality. If we don't we could be facing Paris, 1789.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
40. Her people sat around a big conference table and came to the conclusion they lost last time,....
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:24 PM
Feb 2016

.....because Obama had a logo with his initial.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
20. Per Hillarian logic, all those predictions are negated because some anonymous poster on DU..
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:16 PM
Feb 2016

claimed Sanders would beat her.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
33. Right? I mean...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

we all knew Sanders could never, ever be a threat to Clinton winning the nomination. We all knew he could never, ever, expect to defeat her in any serious contest.

Perhaps we should examine all those other "never, ever"s, that keep getting tossed around...

36. From the Very Beginning the Coronation the MSM Tried to Push Was Bound to be Pushed Back On
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

From the very begnning it was clear the establishment was trying to tell people who to vote for as they always do. It's gotten so bad that media hacks like Chris Matthews and others are openly attacking half the Democratic Party. This is borderline voter intimidation.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
37. Bernie's more of a protest candidate, is it?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

That's why he's gonna end up winning this thing. Because we all are protesting too.

What's that? A political revolution?

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