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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:34 AM Feb 2016

We Need Hillary Clinton

Each and every day, Americans turn on the news and confront alarming stories about an uncertain economy and the instability of the Middle East. While we have made great progress these past seven years, we still have work to do, and we need a leader who will unite our party as one and directly confront these problems.

We need a proud Democrat in the White House who will continue to not only advance our beliefs and policies, but who can realistically navigate the often difficult waters of Washington, D.C.

As a member of Congress, I have seen my share of tough attacks and what Republicans are capable of when it comes to campaigning. Their playbook is ugly. We need a tough competitor. We need Hillary Clinton.

Every four years our great state of Ohio becomes a battleground and is bombarded with negative ads, super PACs and special interests, because no Republican has won the presidency without Ohio. The noise doesn't stop until the last vote is counted on Election Day.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-28/only-hillary-clinton-not-bernie-sanders-will-give-democrats-the-2016-win
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We Need Hillary Clinton (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP
Senator Sanders can navigate just as well and is qualified just as well.. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #1
He has actually proved for years that he can successfully navigate. How has she proved that? JudyM Feb 2016 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #2
LOL. You dont even know, you dont even know. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #4
You keep saying this without any links. JudyM Feb 2016 #19
They have nothing. frylock Feb 2016 #36
Just for you. Hillary Clinton mishandled top secret information. cali Feb 2016 #27
Where? Over at hillaryclintonsupporters.com? frylock Feb 2016 #35
Welcome to DU! Please tell us Bernie's plans for the Middle East. I haven't heard any of his foreign livetohike Feb 2016 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #16
Really? You haven't heard him state that the ME countries need to take on a bigger role.. frylock Feb 2016 #38
For openers, Bernie needs to find himself a foreign policy adviser. (eom) oasis Feb 2016 #10
Like Kissinger? n/t tazkcmo Feb 2016 #13
Ooh, zing! JudyM Feb 2016 #20
If your candidate somehow finds himself in the General Election oasis Feb 2016 #25
Kudos! Funniest OP subject line in months. merrily Feb 2016 #3
No we don't Need Hillary Clinton. Period. Ever. pinebox Feb 2016 #5
Need hillary? Yeah, like a hole in the head... no thanks. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #17
K AND R! Supremely qualified. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #6
Ha! VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #7
Bingo! n/t tazkcmo Feb 2016 #14
No. We really don't. TDale313 Feb 2016 #9
Wish these political geniuses would take back the Congress Dems to Win Feb 2016 #11
Cowardly Claptrap Armstead Feb 2016 #12
This piece contained no substantive policy reason for why we "need" Hillary. Broward Feb 2016 #15
Instability in the Middle East? You mean something she helped cause? jeff47 Feb 2016 #21
I don't need Hillary - I don't trust Hillary. Red Oak Feb 2016 #22
This assumes that we must stoop to the level of the Republicans. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #23
No, we don't need Hillary. Punkingal Feb 2016 #24
We don't need a parent to remind us we can't do something. Avalux Feb 2016 #26
We don't need hillary or anyone like her. she and the other establishment Dems are the problem bowens43 Feb 2016 #28
Like a hole in the head. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #29
Hillary's PRO-LIKUD contingent speaks Trajan Feb 2016 #30
Agreed pandr32 Feb 2016 #31
Sure thing... GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #43
"Advance our policies and beliefs" Doctor_J Feb 2016 #32
To serve as a bad example of a so-called Democrat willing to sell out the people. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #33
To drop out 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #34
You win the interweb today! GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #42
To change positions on things at the drop of a poll...n/t TCJ70 Feb 2016 #37
There is NOTHING realistic about supporting a politician who takes money from the people Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #39
NO WE DON'T! frylock Feb 2016 #40
I need root canal more. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #41

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
1. Senator Sanders can navigate just as well and is qualified just as well..
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

to be President of the United States.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
18. He has actually proved for years that he can successfully navigate. How has she proved that?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:00 AM
Feb 2016

I read the article with an open mind to see if he had some meaningful data. But it was truly just more empty platitudes and the same empty meme of "realistic"... He contributed nothing to advance the dialogue.

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
4. LOL. You dont even know, you dont even know.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:43 AM
Feb 2016

Ive seen some previews of how they will attack him and its brutal and will be a tea party takeover.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. Just for you. Hillary Clinton mishandled top secret information.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

She endangered the lives of intelligence officers. Hillary Clinton should be indicted, not elected.

Fade out of ominous music. Paid for by the committee of concerned Americans.

And Hillary supporters refuse to even consider that it will be an issue. Infuckingsane.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
35. Where? Over at hillaryclintonsupporters.com?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:47 PM
Feb 2016

Why don't you share with us what you have previewed?

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
8. Welcome to DU! Please tell us Bernie's plans for the Middle East. I haven't heard any of his foreign
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:46 AM
Feb 2016

policy ideas, so if you know of them, please share.

Response to livetohike (Reply #8)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
38. Really? You haven't heard him state that the ME countries need to take on a bigger role..
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:49 PM
Feb 2016

in fighting Islamic extremists? Maybe try spending a little more time outside of the HRC group.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
25. If your candidate somehow finds himself in the General Election
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

he's going to have to answer that question to the American voter.

In the meantime, you can content yourself contemplating the many goodies arrayed before you with Bernie's domestic agenda.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
7. Ha!
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016
Each and every day, Americans turn on the news and confront alarming stories about an uncertain economy and the instability of the Middle East.


I don't trust her to get us out of a situation she helped to put us in.
 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
11. Wish these political geniuses would take back the Congress
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

If they are so sure they know how to win in November, why haven't they been applying that political savvy to winning a majority in the House?

The Democratic Establishment has led us to being the LOSER Party. No majorities in Congress, most state houses and governors are Republicans. In state after state, Democrats have lost so much that Repubs have been able to redistrict Dems out of any hope of winning a majority of House seats. Where is the Dem Leadership in trying to reverse this?

Tim Ryan wants to continue the same old same old with the most Establishment candidate imaginable. No Thanks.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
15. This piece contained no substantive policy reason for why we "need" Hillary.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:58 AM
Feb 2016

His argument boils down to that Hillary is more electable, which I think is way off the mark.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
21. Instability in the Middle East? You mean something she helped cause?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:05 AM
Feb 2016

Gaddafi wasn't exactly a nice guy. But Libya was also not a failed state, creating more instability in the Middle East.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
22. I don't need Hillary - I don't trust Hillary.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016

If she wants my vote and my trust, here are some things she could do:

Give away all the money she made from speaking fees that make it look like she is bought and paid for. Someone gives you a quarter-million for 30 minutes worth of work, it's not just because they like you. They will want a return. Release transcripts of what she spoke about so I can see she is not in their pocket.

Stop her super Pacs. Tell Soros she doesn't want or need his $8M dollars. Tell the other donors the same thing. Don't tell me you believe in campaign finance reform - show me.

I watched the Big Short and Inside job this past week. Damn. Bill Clinton was responsible in large part for decimating the middle class. He was responsible just as much as Reagan, just as much as the Bushes. Hillary was there, too. Likewise Obama. Show me how she would change things. Does she think mistakes were made? How is she going to get jobs to come back to the USA? How does she stop the stranglehold of international finance on the middle class? Will she regulate trade? Put a tax on Wall Street speculation? BTW - If she believes in such a tax, why did she not propose it when she was a Senator? Tell me. Show me how you stood up to Wall Street and made changes that help the middle class.

Given NAFTA and Bill Clinton getting China into the WTO, take a true leadership role in explaining why TPP is good or bad and then use the campaign bully pulpit to make a case. Stop equivocating and parsing. Bill gave us enough "what the definition of "is" is". Enough already. A woman of her intelligence can speak plainly if she wants to. Tell me why TPP will help me or tell me why and how you are fighting against it.

I look forward to Secretary Clinton changing my mind on her truth and honesty as a candidate.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
26. We don't need a parent to remind us we can't do something.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

That word 'realistically' bites. What is real, anyway? Reality is what we make it - a future with Bernie and all of US working together.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
28. We don't need hillary or anyone like her. she and the other establishment Dems are the problem
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016

not thew solution. Besides that, she is un-electable.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
29. Like a hole in the head.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie is more capable of taking on the GOP. No scandals, he's won a ton if elections, he's not connected to corrupt Wall St. And corporations, he's not bought and paid for like HRH, he's the most trustworthy, honest and ETHICAL politician in Washington D.C., he means what he says, he hasn't had to "evolve" on issues for 45 years and he won't take ANY of the RWer's lying bullshit.

No we do not need HRH. She can't and won't win the GE. She has way too much baggage and is part if the problem.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
30. Hillary's PRO-LIKUD contingent speaks
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

This is the bunch who LOVED the Iraq war, no matter how devastating it was to world AND to the region ...

NO FUCKING LIKUDNIKS!

NO FUCKING NEOLIBERALS!

The LAST THING our country needs, is to return neoliberals to a position of power ...

ANY person who supports further bloodshed in the Middle East needs to have their fucking head examined ..

The Middle East needs a Ghandi, NOT a Genghis Khan!

Hillary can go to hell ...

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
31. Agreed
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

We do "need a proud Democrat in the White House" and with Hillary Clinton we will also have a former president (a very successful one) who is also a proud Democrat as the First Spouse, or First Dude, or if one wants to keep the FLOTUS acronym we are accustomed to...First Lord (as in the opposite of Lady).
We do need Hillary Clinton.
There is no-one else who comes close to her qualifications and dedication.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
43. Sure thing...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 04:06 PM
Feb 2016

DOMA, NAFTA, DADT, Welfare "Reform", the list goes on.

I am sorry that I was deceived by Bill the first time around.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
39. There is NOTHING realistic about supporting a politician who takes money from the people
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

who BLOCK the legislation she claims to support.

Sanders has funded his campaign without that money, why doesn't Clinton?


GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
41. I need root canal more.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 04:02 PM
Feb 2016

She's done her best to drag the Democratic Party towards the first politician she ever supported - Barry Goldwater.

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