2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumReality check: Clinton leads the delegate race 385-29
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(28,749 posts)She needs to win races in order to win this, supers honestly just don't matter.
You want to win the primary?
Get to work, I've been working my ass off every week.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)She won two more delegates in Iowa than Sanders did.
Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)It's a equal split. 22/22
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Including super delegates? Like candidate, like supporter. Distortion.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Apparently, "Democratic" party is for branding only.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)At least at this stage. Their numbers count as much to the delegate total right now as polling numbers of races that haven't been held yet.
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)should choose our candidate.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Who Iowa for Hillary.
cali
(114,904 posts)is remarkable.
And aren't you just so gracious to acknowledge that voters get to weigh in "as well".
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)Is that PLEDGED delegates are
Clinton: 22
Bernie: 22
Superdelegates aren't even counted until the convention, so here's a reality check. Said same superdelegates can drop their vote and go elsewhere.
Clinton tried the same superdelegate trick in '08. Didn't work either.
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)They can change their vote at any time - just as they did in 2008 when Obama was winning the votes of the American people.
It's so desparate looking of the Clinton group and their media groupies that you have to wonder just WHY are they so scared of Bernie?
Logical
(22,457 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)No one cares what the count is today. Lets check it out after New Hampshire and Nevada.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Thats March 1st right?
Right around the corner. It will be a whole new world around here LOL
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jeff47
(26,549 posts)voted for Obama.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Camp Weathervane seems quite ignorant of that fact.
frylock
(34,825 posts)amirite?
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Ah, good times.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)What was it that Truman said about Real and Fake?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Only the delegates elected during the primaries are committed. The super delegates can change their minds, they don't count until they've cast their votes at the national convention. Most of Hillarys super delegates switched to Obama in '08. If Sanders gets the majority of elected delegates, the superdelegates will switch to him. Otherwise there will be a fight at the convention that will make Chicago 1968 look like a Love-in.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)Hillary led the super delegate race with Obama in 2008. A bunch jumped ship on her. We've already seen some switching endorsements in 2016.
Pledged is like taking a national poll and saying the "election is over". It's soft support - not final.
If people start to think Bernie is going to win, they'll drop Hillary like a hot potato as they did in 2008.
There's probably a whole bunch that are on the fence - would like to jump but want to see Bernie in a firmer competitive position.
Counting her superdelegates before she voted was part of her problem in 2008.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Her number is so big it needs a comma.