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Reality check: Clinton leads the delegate race 385-29 (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 OP
This is stupid... Agschmid Feb 2016 #1
She's already won one race Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #6
She did not. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #11
She did.. Clinton: 23 Sanders 21 DCBob Feb 2016 #15
Multiple sources have it as 23-21 Renew Deal Feb 2016 #21
Yes and she needs to win more. Agschmid Feb 2016 #18
lol tazkcmo Feb 2016 #2
Each super delegate's vote counts as much as the vote of a pledged delegate Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #23
Well, then why are we even bothering with the pretense of primaries and caucuses? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #3
Secretary Clinton still needs almost 2000 more delegates Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #24
It's my understanding super delegates don't matter that much Bradical79 Feb 2016 #4
Counting chickens before they hatch? sinkingfeeling Feb 2016 #5
Clearly, the Very Superior People that constitute the democratic establishment cali Feb 2016 #7
And obviously the voters as well. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #8
Yes, Hillary's stunning victory in Iowa, the state her supporters love to trash, cali Feb 2016 #9
Tell her campaign to release the raw vote totals in Iowa. JRLeft Feb 2016 #31
No. Reality check Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #10
Stop with the Super Delegates Already Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #12
BS POST! Logical Feb 2016 #13
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww aren't you cute. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #14
Even better let's check it out after Super Tuesday. nt Codeine Feb 2016 #19
Yes lets check it after Super Tuesday! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author CobaltBlue Feb 2016 #16
Reality Check: A ton of superdelegates who promised to vote for Clinton in 2008 jeff47 Feb 2016 #17
No, she leads 23-21. Unpledged delegate count is irrelevant at this point. morningfog Feb 2016 #20
Correct. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #29
But nobody here is claiming inevitability or calling for a coronation.. frylock Feb 2016 #22
Remember how cranky she got when they switched their endorsement to her opponent? AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #25
Reality Check: Hillary loses General Election. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #27
You do realize the super delegates are uncommitted, right? HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #28
Nonsense. Pledged is not cast. Jarqui Feb 2016 #30
Update: Hillary now leads 1,034 to 408 Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #32

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
1. This is stupid...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:51 AM
Feb 2016

She needs to win races in order to win this, supers honestly just don't matter.

You want to win the primary?

Get to work, I've been working my ass off every week.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. Well, then why are we even bothering with the pretense of primaries and caucuses?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

Apparently, "Democratic" party is for branding only.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
4. It's my understanding super delegates don't matter that much
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:00 AM
Feb 2016

At least at this stage. Their numbers count as much to the delegate total right now as polling numbers of races that haven't been held yet.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. Clearly, the Very Superior People that constitute the democratic establishment
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:07 AM
Feb 2016

should choose our candidate.



 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. Yes, Hillary's stunning victory in Iowa, the state her supporters love to trash,
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:17 AM
Feb 2016

is remarkable.

And aren't you just so gracious to acknowledge that voters get to weigh in "as well".

 

Flying Phoenix

(114 posts)
10. No. Reality check
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:17 AM
Feb 2016

Is that PLEDGED delegates are

Clinton: 22
Bernie: 22

Superdelegates aren't even counted until the convention, so here's a reality check. Said same superdelegates can drop their vote and go elsewhere.

Clinton tried the same superdelegate trick in '08. Didn't work either.

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
12. Stop with the Super Delegates Already
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:24 AM
Feb 2016

They can change their vote at any time - just as they did in 2008 when Obama was winning the votes of the American people.

It's so desparate looking of the Clinton group and their media groupies that you have to wonder just WHY are they so scared of Bernie?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
14. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww aren't you cute.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:37 AM
Feb 2016

No one cares what the count is today. Lets check it out after New Hampshire and Nevada.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Yes lets check it after Super Tuesday!
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016


Thats March 1st right?

Right around the corner. It will be a whole new world around here LOL

Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
28. You do realize the super delegates are uncommitted, right?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

Only the delegates elected during the primaries are committed. The super delegates can change their minds, they don't count until they've cast their votes at the national convention. Most of Hillarys super delegates switched to Obama in '08. If Sanders gets the majority of elected delegates, the superdelegates will switch to him. Otherwise there will be a fight at the convention that will make Chicago 1968 look like a Love-in.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
30. Nonsense. Pledged is not cast.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:25 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary led the super delegate race with Obama in 2008. A bunch jumped ship on her. We've already seen some switching endorsements in 2016.

Pledged is like taking a national poll and saying the "election is over". It's soft support - not final.

If people start to think Bernie is going to win, they'll drop Hillary like a hot potato as they did in 2008.

There's probably a whole bunch that are on the fence - would like to jump but want to see Bernie in a firmer competitive position.

Counting her superdelegates before she voted was part of her problem in 2008.

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