2016 Postmortem
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after 8 years of Sanders
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Sanders will be 75 by election day. Warren would be his same age in 8 years.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Too bad HRC just doesn't measure up on the issues the way the people want them dealt with!
Beacool
(30,250 posts)It'll be quite a few months before anyone knows who the people choose as president.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Lots of luck selling that to all of us. Why is she so afraid to confront Bernie with the ISSUES that she is SUPPOSEDLY better at solving than he is?
If she can't bring them up, we will RIGHTLY determine that she can't find many if any that she can sell us on that Hillary's better on.
She even had to have her daughter echo the LIE that asserted Bernie would want to "tear down" the ACA and us not have anything BEFORE we could pass and start putting in place single payer insurance in an effective way. Bernie has never wanted us to do what the Republicans have wanted to in just "tearing down" this legislation. As he noted, helped write it and voted for it, even if he wanted it to go further than it did. It seems that she only is able to try to scare Americans by lying or distorting Sanders' record, and not acknowledging that often her own record on many of the issues she tries to do this, she has a worse record on. That is why it would seem that their campaign seems to need to put forth issues like this.
And if Bernie is feeling too old at the end of his first term to be an effective president for a second term, there would be nothing stopping him from saying he would only be in for one term, and have Elizabeth Warren be able to step in one term earlier and when she is younger too.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)The same beliefs he's been spouting in Congress for 26 years to little effect. Let's say he does manage to get elected president, then what? This so called "political revolution" of his is a myth. Americans are not going to rise up like the French did in in 1789. The Republicans have the largest majority in the House since 1929. The Senate is Republican too. Sanders is an ideologue who means well, but has little chance to advance his agenda once in office. He reminds me of Carter, another decent man who was a one term president. The only thing I see happening in a Sanders' presidency is gridlock.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)As if most people love that kind of "Hope and Change" you're promising us? I think we learned last time that we want MORE than BS when it comes to voting for "Hope and Change" and not the "No We Can't" CRAP that the wealthy want us to "accept" as if we can't do any better.
Sorry, it's not going to sell many people!
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... for our descendants, which I think will be needed to give us great leadership through the times when we have to face many of the consequences that we will need to deal with with climate change, even if a Sanders and Warren administration prioritizes dealing with it in the coming years.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)But if her age precludes it, another woman I'd propose for the Oval Office would be Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii). I don't know that much about her--but what little I know, and what I've seen so far, suggests she'd be a very good president, and a superb first female president.
artislife
(9,497 posts)lobodons
(1,290 posts)vote to confirm Hillary's SCOTUS appointments!! That's good enough for me. Hillary 2016!!
With unlimited funds and the full apparatus of the DNC establishment behind her, Hillary could barely squeak out a victory Monday night. If she's the Democratic nominee, we're all in trouble.
Bernie 2016.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)do you really think the Rs will give Clinton the time of day, much less approve anything she wants?
lobodons
(1,290 posts)They (the R's) will not filibuster. With the help of Bernie campaigning with Hillary in the General, the Dems will take back the Senate.