Amazing but true, Bernie is now raising more $$$ than Hillary. If it continues, this could be big.

[reformist2]

$30 million raised in January. $3 million raised just in the past 24 hours alone. Even after Iowa, Bernie's war chest is overflowing, whereas Hillary reportedly spent 90% of her money to secure her "tie" in Iowa. She is probably strapped for cash and will soon have to go back to Wall Street to beg for more. For a candidate whose entire campaign rests on slick marketing and spin, Hillary needs to outspend Bernie. The fact that Bernie can now outspend Hillary - at least for the time being - is huge.

[uponit7771]

1. The poor, blacks, Hispanics, gays, women and cute puppies *** all lean towards Clinton...

... while the young and well off white males lean towards Sanders.

Of course he's rasing more money

[jfern]

4. The entrance poll shows that poor people went strongly for Bernie

[roguevalley]

16. ignore uponit7771 he's posting that everywhere.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. I would love for the dude you replied to to have my income and bills for a couple months just to try

it out. Just to see what it's like living the life of this berniebro.

[uponit7771]

35. poor white people, most of the poor voted for Hillary

[jfern]

43. Nope, poor people in general

[uponit7771]

44. Blacks, Hispancis, Gays, women... are strongly for HRC

[daleanime]

55. Well, you said so....

so it must be true.



Remind me again, what Hillary's average donation?

[uponit7771]

56. Link to polls saying so... in strong numbers... reality doesn't have an Hillary Bias

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1130100

[daleanime]

57. Thank goodness the corporate media backs you up....

I feel so.........reassured.






Have a lovely evening where ever your reality is.

[uponit7771]

59. Everything's corporate while in the bubble

[daleanime]

61. How nice for the people there....

I hope they get paid well for the damage that they do.

[uponit7771]

62. Sanders does get paid well...he's a US senator

[jfern]

58. Poor people are definitely for Bernie

[uponit7771]

60. Nnnnnnnoooo, poor white males just now leaned towards Sanders while Black's and Hispanic and women

Are in hrc camp nationally

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1130100

[jfern]

63. We're talking about Iowa

Not nationally, which are mostly people not paying much attention since they don't vote for a couple of months.

[bobbobbins01]

9. Feel free to show donation numbers for Hillary to prove your conjecture.

But Bernie has shown that he's received more donations from women than Clinton has, so you're already full of it.

[uponit7771]

36. That Sanders supporters are mostly well of white males and the young? That's not conjecture

[cali]

46. Ugh. You are not entitled to your own made up "facts"

[uponit7771]

52. I'm able to read the polling data already posted, you don't have to... your choice

[white_wolf]

19. I'm gay and poor and supporting Bernie so don't speak for me!

[uponit7771]

37. Strawman at best, I'm citing known polling data not my own experience

[Flying Phoenix]

45. IOW, you're lying.

[uponit7771]

50. The polling data was lying now?! Reality doesn't suck

[cali]

47. Bullshit.

[uponit7771]

51. ... is your retort to actual polling data... Science, math and now polls... is this DU!?

[madokie]

25. Pardon me

my apologies but I've yet to read anything you're written here that was factual

[uponit7771]

39. The polling data says a lot

Hillary leads

22 points with women - http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clintons-advantage-hits-campaign-low-lags-trust-leading/story?id=36524847
50 points with blacks and Latinos - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/19/bernie-sanders-gains-on-hillary-clinton-in-a-new-poll-but-its-not-all-good-news-for-him/
With LGBT endorsements - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/19/hillary-clinton-is-endorsed-by-largest-lgbt-rights-group/

The polling data on LGBT community is poor so I'm going by the endorsements

The poor - Sanders leads Clinton on poor whites not with poor and Hispanics... so the split here isn't as large - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/upshot/bernie-sanders-is-making-surprising-gains-with-less-affluent-whites.html

[PyaarRevolution]

49. Don't link me up.

With the HRC. I'm not a fan of them or GLAAD.

[Philos]

28. This false, Clinton talking point

Has been debunked many times. It's more like wishful thinking at this point.

[Avalux]

38. I hope that's sarcasm. n/t

[uponit7771]

40. Nope, see polling data in post #39... bubbles keep out facts

[bkkyosemite]

2. I read Soros gave Hillary 6 million

[mucifer]

8. 8 million

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-george-soros-218494

[msongs]

3. and here I thought sanders etc were against campaign money. oh well nt

[Trajan]

5. What ?

This is money from regular citizens .... It's as low level as donations can be ...

EDIT: Either you already knew that, or you didn't ... either way, not good ...

[Hassin Bin Sober]

11. Lol.

Wait. You serious?

[frylock]

15. and here I thought sanders etc were against [insert red herring here]. oh well nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

22. It's no wonder you don't support him. You're working from a mistaken premise. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

26. .

DUzy. The threads tonight should make the greatest hits list.

[restorefreedom]

32. 27 bucks average. from citizens

otoh,

[truedelphi]

53. Very nice information, thank you! n/t

[restorefreedom]

54. yw :) nt

[AZ Progressive]

6. Make Hillary beg!

[closeupready]

10. Gave today, and I'm going to give tomorrow and

every other day as much as I can. K&R

[mhatrw]

12. It's time for all of Hillary's rats to jump her sinking ship.

Hillary is Blockbuster. Sanders is Netflix. Time to embrace the future.

[white_wolf]

20. But I liked Blockbuster!

I guess I'm just nostalgic, but I miss video stores.

[senz]

31. I miss video stores, too.

And I still love bookstores and magazine stands. Sweet little pleasures.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

24. Or: Cruz is Blockbuster. Clinton is Netflix.

And Sanders is an 18TB NAS running a Plex streaming server pushing content to a smartphone that in turn Chromecasts it to the television. Just saying.

[mhatrw]

30. Got me there. I was just thinking of Blockbuster stock a few years ago.

[AzDar]

13. K & R

[frylock]

14. Another talking point is shot down.

[Garrett78]

17. Money's influence on elections is overstated.

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While money's influence on public policy enacted by those who are in office is enormously substantial, studies show that money's influence on election results have been grossly overstated.

After New Hampshire, Clinton will likely dominate and the race will be decided by Super Tuesday.

[ErisDiscordia]

18. The only thing Hillary had going for her was money, and now it's spent

and what did she get for it? A fraction of a % win.

No, my friend, how one uses what resources one has is the ultimate test of viability. What we are seeing is an epic failure in motion.

[Garrett78]

21. Not really.

In addition to the backing of Big/Corporate Money and endorsements from elected officials, Clinton has several other things going for her. She's very popular among Democrats (in spite of being very polarizing nationally), has the potential to become the first woman POTUS, has the experience of running national campaigns and has an expansive ground game.

I'm not a Clinton fan myself, but her massive lead in states that follow New Hampshire is undeniable. Sanders, as all underdogs must, has put all his eggs in the IA-NH basket in hopes that winning one or both would produce positive media coverage and momentum. His camp has done a remarkable job, but Clinton will coast to the nomination--I suspect the race will essentially be over following Super Tuesday.

Money's influence on elected officials is depressingly substantial. But, again, its influence on election results has been overstated--you can easily Google articles that back that up.

As I wrote at another site:

I'd suggest having everyone in the US vote on the same day just like in the general election. And no caucuses, which are ripe for shenanigans. I suppose underdog candidates would have even less of an opportunity to make a splash and build momentum. Sanders has been able to put so much focus on IA and NH in hopes that winning one or both will garner him positive media coverage and momentum. This only masks the reality he faces after NH. The reality that Clinton has a *massive* lead in virtually every state that follows NH, according to polls.

As Bernard Chazelle wrote years ago, the US has leftists but no Left. Leftists haven't laid the groundwork for broad systemic change. There must be a daily struggle, which I acknowledge is no easy task given how many are focused on simply making ends meet (which, by the by, doesn't completely excuse the amount of attention given to mindless entertainment). Sanders's popularity aside, hoping every 4 or 8 years that some relatively non-neoliberal candidate will be nominated and fix everything is poor strategy, to put it mildly.

The dominance of the likes of Clinton/Obama/Kerry/Gore (i.e., neoliberals) is symptomatic of our culture. Bestowing certain states with preeminence so as to potentially give a boost to an underdog (and a boost to a corporate media that benefits from a prolonged 'horse race') is neither a sensible nor sufficient way to address our diseased culture.

[ErisDiscordia]

23. I don't argue any of your points; they are historically accurate

but I think there's a new breeze blowing. And I hope, for all our sakes, it's strong enough.

[cali]

48. Bullshit. Who to trust? President Carter or you?

[senz]

29. Of course, Hill could always spend some of her own money

or get a loan from the Foundation. Or give another "speech" to Goldman Sachs.

Whereas, Bernie is dependent on the American people. On us.

[BigGLiberal]

33. Hillary is strapped for cash???????? ROFLMAO!

[studyshare]

34. Its Funny Hilary always uses her cash on Pampering herself

$800 haircuts, penthouse suites, private jets....shutter. Yea, she is a real worker for the people right there. <eyes roll>

[UglyGreed]

41. K/R

[in_cog_ni_to]

42. That's because her donors are 1% of the population and they've probably maxed out.

Bernie has donors from 99% of the population who he can go to anytime for funds...they aren't maxed out and can give small donations constantly.

We will beat the 1%. 99% > 1%!

Now you see our power! Iowa and $3 million in one day.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE