2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNYTimes:a jolting psychological blow to the Clinton campaign, leaving volunteers, donors and aides
confused throughout the night, and then crestfallen.
Over the weekend, her campaign had exuded confidence, with some advisers predicting she would win the Iowa caucuses by several percentage points, and by Monday evening, they were urging news outlets to call the race in her favor. They had hoped that she would garner a decisive victory here and put to rest any doubts about her strength as a candidate.
from a new, evening article from the ny times:
HIllary and Bernie Intensify Efforts in NH
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-declared-winner-of-iowa-caucuses.html?&target=comments&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&modref=HPCommentsRefer&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news#commentsContainer
and this:
Clinton Wins Iowa Caucus by Thinnest of Margins
By AMY CHOZICK, PATRICK HEALY and YAMICHE ALCINDOR 8:55 PM ET
Final vote counts showed Hillary Clinton narrowly beating Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, according to The Associated Press and other news organizations.
947 Comments
The comments are worth reading.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)And she won.
amborin
(16,631 posts)staggering comedown.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Naturally the media narrative is going to try and keep the horse race going for as long as possible, for the usual reasons.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)more importantly, the question becomes: was Iowa a harbinger of things to come? That thought is what has them discouraged. that is the blow...
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)by my lights anyway.
amborin
(16,631 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)ohh, and look at his new endorsements....hmmm.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)And that is a great thing.
I know what you are implying, but h's donors are right of center for the most part.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)3 million dollars in 24 hours!
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)If Hillary's Wall Street sugar daddies don't feel she can protect them sufficiently from the Bernie Sander's out there, they will happily redirect their money to Marco Rubio.
artislife
(9,497 posts)booyah.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Chezboo
(230 posts)not when youre measuring state delegate equivalents. Sanderss performance offered concrete electoral proof of the power of his anti-establishment appeal and demonstrated his capacity to compete on par with Clinton, whose organization had far more time and resources on the ground in Iowa."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marco-rubio-and-bernie-sanders-were-the-real-winners-in-iowa/2016/02/02/470947a8-c978-11e5-a7b2-5a2f824b02c9_story.html
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)What does that remind me of. Hmmm. It sounds awfully Bush Campaign Florida 2000.
Push the media outlets to call it a win and then get the hell out of Dodge (leave the scene of the crime ?) ASAP.
amborin
(16,631 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... Hillary
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Bernie can raise $3million in a day just from small donors. Pretty soon he's going to have more cash on hand than she does.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I really do not want NAFTA Bill back as Pres.
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Glamrock
(11,802 posts)I believe what you're looking for is "intentionally obtuse".
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Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I had to listen to her voice long enough till I could click it off.
Someone needs to tell her not to keep talking when she gets applause.....to wait till she can be heard.
and to get a voice coach.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I like both candidates and enjoy listening to either of them. I hope I never get so biased that one of the Democrats running makes me angry.