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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:13 PM Feb 2016

Bernie struggled with minorities in Iowa: Clinton won non-white caucus-goers 58% to 34%

And among the 9 percent of non-white Democratic caucus-goers in Iowa on Monday, Clinton won by a wide margin, 58-34 percent.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/schisms-carve-iowa-contests-leaving-murky-political-calculus/story?id=36656482


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It's going to be hard for Bernie to keep pace with Hillary once the states start getting more diverse.

Iowa was a must win for Bernie considering the demographics, but he lost.
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Bernie struggled with minorities in Iowa: Clinton won non-white caucus-goers 58% to 34% (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 OP
I weighed in on that in several posts starting here: Jarqui Feb 2016 #1
o.k. nt merrily Feb 2016 #2
You're welcome. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #3
"ok. nt" is not another way of saying "thanks," but you knew that. merrily Feb 2016 #6
You're welcome. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #8
I cannot recall ever having read a single post of yours for which I was grateful, or for which merrily Feb 2016 #22
You're welcome. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #23
Bernie's numbers keep improving with all groups virtualobserver Feb 2016 #4
Blacks are majority socialist and Hispanics would like Bernie if they got to know him AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #5
Sanders spent 3 months in IA... how in the world can the claim be made PoC don't know him? uponit7771 Feb 2016 #9
"If they get to know him . . ." Because they aren't nearly as informed as you are... Empowerer Feb 2016 #10
What's funny is that the Cubans, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who came to America lunamagica Feb 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #28
South Carolina is bernies test. The results will tell all. yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #29
Where do you get the stats that Blacks are majority socialist? book_worm Feb 2016 #24
I too would like to see a source for that. Never heard that one before. n/t Tanuki Feb 2016 #31
They'll act like they don't understand your op... that's what they've been doing to ignore this uponit7771 Feb 2016 #7
It is possible for voting trends among a group of voters to change. jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #11
Sanders spent 3 months in IA and Obama didn't marginalize HRC's leftest bonafides as Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2016 #12
Of course she did. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #13
We get it. Bernie Sanders is a white male. Thanks for a the help. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #14
Where is this supposed data coming from? mhatrw Feb 2016 #15
Wasn't the Black vote 90% Hillary to 10% Bernie nationally 8 months ago. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #17
Roughly that, yes. John Poet Feb 2016 #21
In the last 24 hours I've seen every card in the deck pulled out here by you and your cohorts. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #18
I've got plenty more decks Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #19
Wouldn't doubt it. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #20
You gotta concede that it is a problem that Bernie has book_worm Feb 2016 #26
Yes and Iowa gets too much attention at this point treestar Feb 2016 #25
Not "hard" ... but IMPOSSIBLE. Bernie will not be the nominee. Of this I am certain! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #30

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. I cannot recall ever having read a single post of yours for which I was grateful, or for which
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 05:54 AM
Feb 2016

anyone should have been grateful. That includes your last two replies to me, which are eminently eyeroll worthy.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
5. Blacks are majority socialist and Hispanics would like Bernie if they got to know him
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

They just need more time to get to know Bernie. It's probably more of a trust issue (since they know Hillary for a long time but just barely know about Bernie.)

Someone should emphasize Bernie's support of the people of Nicaragua (including videos on youtube) that show Bernie's understanding of the struggle of latinos, and that Bernie was against NAFTA (which has forced many Mexicans to cross the border) and is anti-imperialist, and how Hillary was in favor of American imperialism in latin america with her involvement in the 2009 coup in Honduras.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. Sanders spent 3 months in IA... how in the world can the claim be made PoC don't know him?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:41 PM
Feb 2016

Also, could it be Sanders marginalizing Clinton's left bonafides relates her more to the marginalized than the well off?

Regards

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
10. "If they get to know him . . ." Because they aren't nearly as informed as you are...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:42 PM
Feb 2016

Has it occurred to you that they've already gotten to know him and have come to a different conclusion about him than you have?

It happens, you know. . .

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
16. What's funny is that the Cubans, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who came to America
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 04:41 AM
Feb 2016

were fleeing socialism. They despise the term

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yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. South Carolina is bernies test. The results will tell all.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:22 AM
Feb 2016

If he wins, he gets nominated. If he loses horribly not sure if he will pull it off.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
24. Where do you get the stats that Blacks are majority socialist?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

can you back that up? They are, I concede, one of the most loyally Democratic demographics. For instance, they always vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic candidate. Very few vote for lefty third parties like the Greens.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
7. They'll act like they don't understand your op... that's what they've been doing to ignore this
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:37 PM
Feb 2016

... little canary

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
11. It is possible for voting trends among a group of voters to change.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:58 PM
Feb 2016

Besides, people of color do exist that support Sanders. It is certainly possible that the level of support will increase. In fact, this happened with a political candidate whose name was...Obama?? Sanders is not Obama, but to say that the level of support for a candidate in a given demographic can't change - that's simply untrue.

BTW, I hope that Ms. Clinton (and Clinton supporters) are just as supportive of a pro-black agenda after the election (if they win) as they claimed to be beforehand. Lots of slick politicians promise a lot and leave you at the altar when it's time to make policy. It's also easy for white general publics to say they are pro-black when there's no cost to themselves involved. College access and single payer would make a real financial difference for everyone, including black citizens of this country that suffer from constant discrimination and marginalization. I challenge every Clinton supporter to make sure she walks the talk if she's your candidate - that all the love for people of color goes far, far beyond campaign strategy. I WILL be as challenging of Sanders to work sincerely for what's being promised (as a Sanders supporter).

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
12. Sanders spent 3 months in IA and Obama didn't marginalize HRC's leftest bonafides as Sanders
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

... is doing so Obama never endeared her to the marginalized like Sander is doing for Hillary.

I think Sanders would be a kick ass president as I do think the same for HRC...

Sanders words at least don't show this

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
15. Where is this supposed data coming from?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:24 AM
Feb 2016

The Iowa Democratic party can't even tell us how many people voted for each candidate. So who gathered this data and how did they gather it?

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
17. Wasn't the Black vote 90% Hillary to 10% Bernie nationally 8 months ago.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 05:10 AM
Feb 2016

Yes, Bernie is still struggling against the Clinton machine's stranglehold on the black vote within the Democratic party, but he is making gains.

Will it be enough -- maybe... maybe not.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
26. You gotta concede that it is a problem that Bernie has
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016

his support is largely lily white, under 30 very liberal voters.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. Yes and Iowa gets too much attention at this point
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016

for being first, it gets the attention, but after several states, the importance will fade.

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