2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA bloggers eloquent explanation of why not Hillary and why Bernie
This is quite powerful
https://medium.com/@Lookingforrobyn/when-you-ask-me-to-vote-for-hillary-174becdb5ccc#.htkifz99a
When you ask me to vote for Hillary
Excerpt:
You are asking me to consciously give up on any hope I may have of living a sane life in our country. To vote for her in the primaries, I would need to believe that the establishment on both the right and the left have so thoroughly strangled the political system that it is no longer reasonable to even try for reform. I have to be so scared of political opponents gaining power that it is worth it to sacrifice even the hope of being able to get ahead, have a savings cushion, access healthcare, send our kids to college, retire, or just not feel like were constantly living on a knifes edge, all because of fear of a potential future.
If this doesnt make sense to you if you think it is reasonable to fear the opposition more than to hope for having a better life then Im guessing you live a fairly comfortable life and dont feel strong motivation to change it. Perhaps its been a long time since you had to decide not to take your spouse to the emergency room because you were worried it would wipe out what little savings you have. Maybe you dont have full-blown anxiety attacks every time you see that your medical insurance company has sent you something in the mail. Do you remember the last time you cried thinking about how you cant afford to get a job, because it will knock you off of the meager insurance assistance you have and put you even further behind than you started? Would your place of employment and the welfare of hundreds of employees be ensured if only we could sort out the insanity that is private insurance? Has there been a time in your life when nearly all of the stress you experience in life comes, one way or another, from trying to navigate the private medical-industrial complex?
If these dont sound familiar to you, then maybe you dont really understand what youre asking of me when you advise me to make decisions based on practicality. And notice, Im not even saying youre wrong. What I am saying is that for me to choose Hillary over Bernie right now is to literally choose to give up on the best chance we have ever had to finally become a reasonable, civilized nation, and say instead No, we cant do it, I am too scared of what might happen. If we dont elect Bernie, but at least we try, then maybe someday four years from now, eight, maybe when my kids are grown, who knows we will make forward progress again. But to lay down now and accept the position that our political system is so thoroughly bankrupt that I should drop any expectation of living beyond paycheck to paycheck in order to prevent something even worse from happening
well, thats it. Its over. The powerful can sit back and relax, knowing that if we didnt stand up now, we never will they know their manipulations work, their place (and ours) is set. We shut the door and I embrace the hand-to-mouth class status weve tried to move out of for so long......
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merrily
(45,251 posts)She said we'd have it by the year 2000. Then she said we'll never have it. I think she's coming around to we may have it someday again, though it is not pragmatic to think about it while she has anything to do with it.
In New England, the weather supposedly changes faster than anywhere else. I don't know if that is so. However, because of its reputation, New England weather has been dubbed "wait a minute weather." The idea is, if you don't like the weather, just wait a minute: it will change.
Hillary may take more than a minute, but it's good to know she is capable of evolving, even coming round full circle, if need be. During these few primary months alone, she's gone from progressive to self avowed moderate and back to progressive again. And every time, I know she's sincere. Of course, it all depends on what your definition of "progressive" is.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710158 (What do political terms even mean anymore?)
Armstead
(47,803 posts)are 65 or older.
If you're younger than that, well fend for yourselves.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)I guess that technically is a grandfather clause....,or a santa clause....or a pony...or something.
I get so confused with her positions of the day.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I guess the right is hornier now?
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)"any flavor you want it to be."