"You’re Rewarding 25 Years of GOP Smears"

[Empowerer]

If You’re Liberal and You Think Hillary Clinton Is Corrupt and Untrustworthy, You’re Rewarding 25 Years of GOP Smears

With the exception of maybe Barack Obama, whom they’ve irrationally loathed with the fire of a thousands suns, it’s tough to name anyone conservatives have more vigorously derided throughout the years than Hillary Clinton. Even her husband, as much as they tried to take him down at every turn, earned a begrudging respect from many in the Republican party. Beating him up for, say, his sexual proclivities was the height of Beltway hypocrisy and they knew it, but politics demanded they grab onto any potential scandal they could with both hands and ride it as far as it would take them. While it’s true many were bitterly jealous of Clinton’s seemingly depthless charisma and sorcerer’s way with voters, for the GOP leadership at the time it wasn’t personal — just really dirty business. Hillary on the other hand has always been cast as an arrogant bitch, a soulless bête noire, an irredeemably corrupt and fundamentally dishonest political hustler. From the very beginning of her time in the national political limelight, she was vilified for refusing to simply sit back and be an ornament on the White House Christmas tree, as she was apparently supposed to. And when she ventured out into her own separate political career, what was considered calculating but somehow forgivable from her husband became merely calculating — and nefariously so — from her. Bill was allowed to be Slick Willy. Hillary was just a rotten to the core.

...

There are reasons you may choose not to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016, but one would hope they’re policy issues rather than problems with her personality — because the “personality” that’s been sold to the American electorate is largely manufactured, and not by Clinton herself (another facet of the smear: that she’s a phony). The reality is that Clinton was one of the most liberal members of the Senate during her time there, ranking within ten points of progressive messiah Bernie Sanders and her history as a crusader for progressive causes is precisely what so motivated the GOP to destroy her in the first place. As far as the right was concerned, Clinton stepped far over the line when she pushed for healthcare reform way back in 1993 and her activist past informed a future as a “difficult woman.” By the way, it hardly needs to be said but many of the conservative attacks on Clinton throughout the decades have been the product of rank sexism. Men rarely get labeled difficult or abrasive and their general likability isn’t often called into question. Those are all buzzwords employed specifically to knock empowered women down a peg. And Hillary Clinton has been subjected to them — and so much worse — her entire political career.

The supposed scandals that Clinton’s been enduring for the past 25 years are mostly nonsense. The GOP wouldn’t have it any other way. And they couldn’t be happier that right now so many liberals have turned against the woman they utterly despise in favor of someone they’re fully aware they can beat. Because they understand she’s the only thing standing in their way in 2016. They can’t beat her. And they know it.

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/01/hillary-gop-smears/

[Fearless]

1. Gender does not qualify one to be a president.

Democrats who vote against her do not do so because of her gender.

To vote for her based on gender is doing a disservice to women everywhere.

[DanTex]

5. Yup, that's one of them.

[Fearless]

7. The self fulfilling prophecy meme.

Make up the rules and claim you've already won. Have fun. Too bad it doesn't matter.

[DanTex]

9. Actually, I determine who won by counting the votes. YMMV.

[Fearless]

17. I was speaking to your previous argument not the election

Now you're changing the argument to suit your argument.

[roguevalley]

41. this op piece is sad. so we have to vote for her or we'll make the bad guys happy.

not a good reason to vote for anyone. By the way, Frank Rich just said Hillary is her own worst enemy, not Bernie.

[beam me up scottie]

44. VOTE FOR HILLARY OR THE TERRORISTS WIN!!!

[Fearless]

52. The economic terrorists would win if we did vote for her.

Same as Republicans.

[beam me up scottie]

55. Do they think we're stupid enough to fall for this crap?

They keep posting it over and over and over...

[Fearless]

57. It's a combination of that and wasting our time

The more time we spend fighting bs claims the less time we have to move forward constructively. It's a republican tactic used to disrupt.

I've come to the point of cutting straight to the chase, telling them they're making things up and moving on.

[frylock]

71. I have come to sincerely believe that they do.

[beam me up scottie]

77. Insult our intelligence some more, keep telling us we really don't know why we oppose her.

We're just being played by the GOP, we're sexist, brainwashed, part of a cult who'll believe anything, blah blah blah.

And oh yeah, don't forget to show up in November!!!

[zeemike]

85. Yes I think they do.

It it a part of being an elitist...you look down on the unwashed masses and treat them like they are children to me manipulated...it makes you feel powerful and important.

And they firmly believe that if repeated enough the little people will believe anything.

[beam me up scottie]

86. It is just like telling people to vote for Bush or the terrorists will win.

And not just because she already invoked 9/11 and tried to scare us by using Iran as the boogeyman.

If we didn't buy it when the Republicans were selling it why would we now?

[zeemike]

90. Unfortunately some of our Dem leaders did buy it.

And Hillary was one of them...and there is the problem IMO.

But now we are supposed to say all if forgiven and forgotten and keep them in leadership positions. That is what they are selling and I don't think too many are buying it anymore.

So fear is used...fear of a Cruz or a Trump. And it is telling when DU has at any given time an article about how scary Trump or Cruz is.

[merrily]

8. Why no, sir, it is not.

I never voted for Obama because he was African American and would have considered so doing racist. I voted for him because I thought he was the Democrat most likely to win the genera. However, I was thrilled to see an African American get the nomination and the Presidency.

[merrily]

6. Most to all Democrats have long been eager for a woman President.

The gender card might work in the general. In Democratic primaries, it's just beyond lame.

[Fearless]

13. If it was Elizabeth Warren for instance

I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

But I vote on issues.

[merrily]

15. I would vote for Warren in a heartbeat over Hillary, but not over Sanders.

However, as I voted for Sanders, I would be sorry about not being able to vote for a woman, as I am now.

He is, however, a historic candidate in his own right.

[Fearless]

19. Quite historic. nt.

[merrily]

27. For just two things, a long term politician who doesn't lie and isn't corrupt is as rare as...

well, a shill who doesn't shill.

[Fearless]

54. He reminds me of Senator Kennedy.

[merrily]

61. Teddy or Bobby?

One difference is, neither of them really needed money, either personally or for political campaigns; Sanders did, for both, until relatively recently.

I would not give Jack a lot of points for how he became a member of Congress, or Ted for blocking health care plans during both the Nixon and Carter administrations. I don't think Sanders would ever have done the latter. He might have done Jack's trick, though. Dunno.

[Fearless]

67. By speech Teddy, by both in beliefs.

[merrily]

73. Ted did block Nixon and Carter on their health plans for political reasons, though.

Much later in life, Ted admitted, very regretfully, on having blocked Nixon because, according to Teddy, he did want health care adopted during the administration of a Republican. After Ted died, Carter said Ted had done the same to him, because Ted wanted to be President when health care was implemented.

On the bright side, right after Ted passed, I saw a list of all the great health care legislation that he had written and gotten passed into law. It was a long and very impressive list.

All the above is true. Such is being a politician while human.

[Fearless]

80. What Teddy had said about Nixon's plan was that it didn't go far enough

And that he regretted not supporting it as a piecemeal approach to universal health care.

[merrily]

82. What he also said is that he blocked it because he did not a Republican President to be in

office when it was adopted. He said that before he passed and I believed him because politicians are so very rarely that candid.

I saw video during which Kennedy said that. I also saw the video of Carter saying what he said about Ted's having blocked him.

I'll try to find them.

[merrily]

88. I found this article relatively quickly.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/jimmy-carter-slams-ted-kennedy-on-health-care/

I don't really feel like spending a lot of time digging up the videos.

In the video I saw, Kennedy claimed--though I am not 100% sure I believe him, esp. in light of Carter's story, is that, as to Nixon, he regretted it very soon and tried to get it done with Nixon, but, by that time, Nixon was involved in Watergate.

If I put the two stories together, Ted's and Carter's, though, it seems as though Ted blocked Nixon and Carter because Ted wanted to be President when health care was adopted.

I am a fan of the Kennedys, but they were indeed human.

[840high]

98. Yes

[JPnoodleman]

100. I would be split between the two..... in that instance i'd need a coin toss. /nt

[beam me up scottie]

37. I would love to see a woman president, I just want her to be a progressive.

We've had enough right leaning centrists.

If I'm going to vote for someone because they'll be the first then Bernie qualifies for that category too since he would be the first Jewish president.

[merrily]

50. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1126651

[beam me up scottie]

53. She'll promises to be whatever you want her to be!

Just long enough to get your vote.

Then she'll revert back to the default position.

[merrily]

69. Whatever she thinks/they think might get her the most votes at the moment.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1126731

[Empowerer]

10. I love when people respond an article just 3 minutes after posting, proving that they couldn't

possibly have read the article they are commenting on . . .

[Fearless]

14. I had read it yesterday actually on Facebook

A friend of mine posted it and we discussed it at length. Sorry you don't get your gotcha moment.

[merrily]

18. As if the points in the article--and we--are brand new, anyway?

[jeff47]

20. It's not exactly a complex article. (nt)

[PowerToThePeople]

2. Why I will never support Hillary

It has nothing to do with GOP smears.

It has everything to do with her support and backing of a corrupt and traitorous Republican regime in committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

[PowerToThePeople]

22. One reason I will support Bernie.

[mountain grammy]

76. and me too.. he speaks for me.

[BlueJazz]

26. What PowerToThePeople said

[beam me up scottie]

62. ^^^THIS^^^

They are insulting our intelligence by implying we can't decide for ourselves why we don't support her.

It couldn't POSSIBLY be because we've been paying attention too.

[lastone]

99. ^^^^^^ this. --- and

$$$$$$ She, as are every other candidate in this race, are beholden to special interest $$.

I'm as savvy as the next progressive as far as knowing when I'm being sold propaganda.

[handmade34]

3. K&R n/t

[frylock]

4. If you can't win them over with policy, win them over by trying to shame them.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Shake Some Sense Into Em!

Also, insulting them works, just ask DWS.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/magazine/debbie-wasserman-schultz-thinks-young-women-are-complacent.html

[beam me up scottie]

30. And don't forget her supporters screaming at millennials to GET OFF THEIR LAWN!!!

[Warren DeMontague]

34. The spin has been dizzying

Come on, don't these look like people who have just been given the decisive, Bern-extinguishing victory they were expecting?

[beam me up scottie]

42. LOL! They look like they have heartbern.

[frylock]

33. Of course, the underlying theme of this OP is that we're too stupid to realize..

that we're being played by the RW. Truly a winning strategy.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. I guess if a candidate says stuff like "My ties to wall st. are okay because nineeleven"

and you think it sounds legit, well....


maybe critical analysis is not the forte, there.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

115. You have to wonder about a group that insists on treating others like infants but then

wanting to shake some sense into those they treat that way.

[cali]

11. What Hillary fawning shit

[jeff47]

12. So her IWR vote is a GOP smear?

"It takes a village" and it's support of welfare reform is a GOP smear?

Her statements supporting much more direct action (aka bombing) in the Middle East are a GOP smear?

"We came, we saw, he died, HAHAHAHA" is a GOP smear?

[merrily]

23. Don't you know? We're incapable of making up our own minds. All a Republican

has to do is say a lie; and we buy it and act on it. That's exactly why we're Democrats, duh!

[uponit7771]

16. I believe Sanders marginalizing of HRC's bonafides hurts him more than it helps

[Warren DeMontague]

21. It wasn't GOP smears that changed my opinion of her. It was her own votes and positions.

The IWR. "Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman". Flag Burning.

[merrily]

25. Ending welfare as we know it will, at long last, confer dignity on poor people.

Not to mention taking two years to respond to a subpoena and another two to respond to an FOIA request and certain discrepancies between what she says and what occurred.

I take a Republican's word for nothing.

[JohnnyLib2]

28. Been very aware of the Clintons since they first came to attention...

and the public perception of her has always been a mixed bag. Admired role-model to many, pushy female to others, strong proponent on many fronts, forceful opponent to others. I think a review of descriptions in years past would be supportive of this OP. The current "wicked witch" designation has come from the right and grown over the years. It was not always so.

K & R

[RiverLover]

29. You're rewarding 25 years of GOP actions while veiled as being a Democrat. /nt

[ucrdem]

31. Yep. If it wasn't Bernie there would be some equally meritorious anti-Clinton

with the most a-MAZ-ing grassroots support.

[HassleCat]

32. I can see what we must do

to repudiate the smear campaign, we must elect Clinton president. Nothing else will suffice.

[frylock]

36. That'll learn em!

[Hekate]

40. If that's all you got out of this, you have missed the point, which is...

Be aware of what is and is not true. Stop repeating the lies. Point them out when other people do it.

Nothing else will suffice.

[mike45567]

83. Strategery

Obviously, the way to punish the Republicans who have spent the past 25 years trashing a Democrat on the assumption that their target would be a candidate for President is to make their dream come true.

[Hekate]

35. New DU meme is to call her "Mrs. Clinton." Reminds me of Professor Anita Hill being called "Miss"

... by all those male Senators. Miss Hill this and Miss Hill that, while Clarence Thomas was always "Judge Thomas." I used to yell at the tv: "That's Doctor Hill to you! She's a Professor!"

And right here and right now, former Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, has been diminished and disappeared. She's Mrs. Clinton.

As to the 25 years of GOP smears: there's something wonderful about a lie, or as propagandists from the USSR to Nazi Germany called it, The Big Lie. You just tell it often enough, and people will believe it. Or, enough people will believe it.

I expect it of those who listen to Limbaugh and O'Reilly and who watch FOX. It utterly nauseates me to read it here at DU.

[Empowerer]

47. +1

[Starry Messenger]

92. +1

[betsuni]

38. K&R!

[TwilightGardener]

43. Nah.

[Armstead]

45. I agree with the Right Wing GOP that the sun rises in the morning....

I am so ashamed of myself

[Truprogressive85]

46. Disagree

When you call black kids on the street corners members of gangs and super predators

and flash forward to She has an awakening oh the need for criminal justice reform when she was on the sideline calling for more cops, more jail

I don't trust her

[VulgarPoet]

117. +1000.

[Jarqui]

48. What a stupid end to the headline: "...You’re Rewarding 25 Years of GOP Smears "

If Hillary gets caught in lies about Bosnian snipers or attaining peace in Ireland or her emails recently and many, many other lies over her years including some deceptions about Sanders in the last couple of weeks, am I supposed to say "oh, that's the GOP's fault"?

The GOP didn't make her vote for the war in Iraq or flip-flop 22 times, etc.

What an absurd premise.

Holding Hillary to account for deceitful actions which are 100% of her own doing is not rewarding 25 years of GOP smears. She attempted to deceive many times over and got caught dead to rights.

60% of Americans finding her untrustworthy is not because of what the GOP did to her. It's largely of her own doing. Actions have consequences.

In democracy, we have a civic duty to speak up when something is amiss.

I would say in her case, buyer beware. Because the GOP have a pretty big arsenal of real stuff she did that is hard to refute because it's true. And they'll be giving it plenty of air time as we head down the stretch in the general election. I think there's a darn good chance she won't get elected because of it. I fear it and I want a Democrat in the White House to protect all the good work that's been done under Obama.

My heart is in the right place for the overall good of what we've worked for.

I also happen to think Bernie's honesty is appealing particularly in contrast to Hillary.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

78. well said n/t

[AtomicKitten]

49. Why should we promote a lie? She IS corrupt and untrustworthy.

[Hekate]

56. You swallowed it whole. I've watched the whole thing unfold for 25 years and learned to look...

...for the source. If the source was a Republican or right winger (now one and the same) I figured whatever it was had to be manufactured by them, in other words, a lie. And I've been proven correct over and over.

Sorry.

[AtomicKitten]

59. Feel free to carry her water on this. Expecting anyone else to is laughable.

[uponit7771]

58. No she's not

[elmac]

96. Bernie attracts the young generation voters because they trust him

they do not trust the the party, they do not trust the GOP, they do not trust the power structure controlling their lives, they do trust Bernie because he has their best interests at heart. That younger voting block helped get Obama into office and it just may be the key for Bernie.

[KingCharlemagne]

51. And then there's the 1,000,000 Iraqi ghosts who wonder the Fertile Crescent and

the streets of Fallujah crying out for a justice that never comes.

Drip, drip, drip.

"Out, damned spot!"

[SoapBox]

60. The Clintons have dug their own hole...

And then whine.

No more Clintons.

[jalan48]

63. Corrupt? Maybe conflict of interest would be a better statement.

Millions in speaking fees from Wall Street-because she's such a great orator?

[mcar]

64. This exactly

A crying shame to see it here.

[Thinkingabout]

65. The GOP is an equal opportunity offender, I don't think Sanders will be close to getting the

nomination but I have already seen a preview of the Sanders attacks, they are not nice. They have thrown so much at Hillary it is like water off of a ducks back, nothing new anymore.

[Empowerer]

111. The Sanders folks think he's immune from it because he's so pure

They don't realize that the main reason the GOP has laid off of him so far is that they don't see him as any threat to them - it's Hillary they fear and need to take down. But if they ever decide to turn their fire on Sanders, he will be toast - he's never been through this before and does not have the tools or temperament to withstand the onslaught.

And this has nothing to do with substance - Sanders may be pure as the driven snow, but that means nothing to these people. They will go after him anyway. President Obama is clean as a whistle and they have attacked him relentlessly and shamelessly. It's interesting that so many Sanders supporters naively believe that their guy would be immune from this.

[Thinkingabout]

112. Exactly, I saw an article recently a preview to their plan

And just as the Swift Boat attacks which was not true about a honored vet it will not be nice. It will

be

a new getting era.

[Empowerer]

113. That's the key - it doesn't have to be true. You don't have to be a bad person or have anything

negative in your history. You don't have to be anything but not them.

[noiretextatique]

119. Your analysis is absurd, to be honest

As is this article. The problem Clinton faces from Democrats is not 25 years of rw propaganda, it is 25 years of centrist/DLC/third way propaganda. That includes both the Clintons and Obama, who is not pure as the driven snow, btw. He gets attacked from the left because he is a centrist, like the Clintons, and many Democrats are tired of that failed ideology. If you think Sanders is not being attacked by the right...and even centrist democrats, you are not paying attention. Like it or not, some Democrats think the party has been headed in the wrong direction, i.e., becoming less and less distinguishable from the GOP. That's the fault of the party, rw smears notwithstanding. I am 57 years old...I have been paying attention since Reagan was elected. It is insulting to state that only rw proganda is to blame for the rift in the party...insulting, simplistic, and false,

[Hiraeth]

66. Nobody tells me: No I can't.

[Ford_Prefect]

68. The lady's rabid acolyte doth protest too much, methinks...

[kath]

70. *Regardless*of anything the GOP has said about her, the fact remains that she IS corrupt and

untrustworthy.
sad but true.

plus she's a flip-flopper extraordinaire.

[Kalidurga]

72. Someone is delusional if they think we listen to the GOP

[highprincipleswork]

74. I just go by how she talks and acts. That's my conclusion from watching those two things over time.

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And yes, I've surely had plenty of time to watch and to appraise her character and her performance.

That's not how I see Bernie Sanders. I fully trust where he is coming from. What's more, he seems to really, really mean it and stand behind it, with words and action.

There simply is no comparison, and given enough time to know them both I can't see how anyone can make another determination.

You've got to acquiesce to a world of non-Progressive talk and action on all kinds of subjects, including immediately TPP and healthcare to support Hillary Clinton, and I'm simply not ready to do that unless face with a severely worse choice on my hands. I can't see why any real Progressive wouldn't see it that way.

I don't believe in following what seems to me to be a lesser choice because it is more "realistic". What is realistic is what we are capable of creating together. That is all that is realistic. And I believe with Bernie that "when we stand together, there is nothing we cannot accomplish".

I wish that we, as Progressives and as the Democratic Party were doing a better job of standing together. I guess we're doing the best we can. However, I find it very inspiring how more and more people from all walks of life and all genders and all colors and all backgrounds are resonating to the sound of the things Bernie is striving for. Taking them as things to shoot for, in the concerted way that with enough people involved simply guarantees their success. I am really tired of eating shit from the political and economic system of "the greatest nation" because people in my own supposedly inspiring party tell me it's the only way to go.

For instance, "retraining" the American worker for "jobs of the future". That would be great if it were really done and there were really those jobs and people really even wanted it to happen instead of giving H-1B visas and sending jobs overseas or acknowledging all the consequences of robotizing the world in a global economy.

I'm tired of the same old shuck and jive. And Bernie is, in my opinion, the only one who is clearly telling what is wrong and clearly calling for the kinds of procedures that are necessary to fix it.

Naive? Heck no. I'd say it's all based on evidence of the most direct kind, and in that the most reality-based stuff you could follow. Downright scientific.

[Arazi]

81. Kicked and Recced for a thoughtful post

full of some excellent truths

[SMC22307]

75. "grab on ... with both hands ... and ride it ..."

Seriously, who writes this stuff?

Hillary's been on my radar for decades. I didn't rely on Richard Mellon Scaife in the '90s, and won't rely on 2016's dailybanter.com to shape my opinions.

Bernie's labeled "angry" all the time... how is that different from Hillary's "abrasive"?

[AOR]

79. The rampant corruption of the Clintons speaks for itself regardless of GOP smears...

The Clintons: “We Came, We Stole, Haitians Died”

--by Glen Ford

(Snip)

"The Haitian people’s furious resistance to yet another fraudulent presidential election has scuttled U.S. plans to replace “Sweet Mickey” Martelly with another flunky named the “Banana Man.” The aborted fraud is a reminder that Secretary of State Clinton was an imperial bully who rigged the previous presidential election in Haiti and stole the country blind, along with her accomplice and husband, Bill. Those chickens may yet come home to roost."

(Snip)

"The island nation of Haiti is on the verge of finally ejecting the criminal President Michel “Sweet Mickey” Martelly, the dance hall performer and gangster who was foisted on the Haitian people by the United States through the bullying of then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, back in 2011. Martelly’s term is up, and he is constitutionally required to leave office by February 7. Martelly and his American, French and Canadian backers had hoped to use rigged elections and strong-arm tactics to install another puppet politician, Jovenel “The Banana Man” Moise, in the presidential palace. The “Banana Man” – who wants to turn Haiti into a real banana-exporting republic, to the further impoverishment of its small farmers – came in first in an October election that was so blatantly stolen, even the thoroughly corrupt Haitian elite could not endorse the outcome."

(Snip)

"But, even the prospect of a one-man contest could not stop the Americans from insisting on going ahead with the run-off. The U.S., which pays for the Haitian elections and, therefore, believes it has the right to decide who wins and who loses, growled that Haiti should go along with the fraudulent process. The Americans were upset that they might have no reliable replacement for their loyal puppet, “Sweet Mickey.” Plus, the discrediting of the elections would also reflect very badly on presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, who claims to have brought stability to Haiti when she was at the State Department but, in fact, is culpable for all of the Haitians who were murdered by the Martelly regime. The truth is that Hillary and Bill were the Bonnie and Clyde of Haiti, robbing the country for their own and other corporate criminals’ benefit. The teams of FBI agents that are now matching Hillary’s emails with contributions to the Clinton Foundation are tapping a Mother Lode of corruption that may yet bring her down before Election Day in the United States."

http://blackagendareport.com/clinton_haiti_elections

[quickesst]

84. Haha....

Common ground

[RiverLover]

91. And its purple!!

A warm purple place, common ground.

[vadermike]

87. wow

If this much infighting betw us Dems continues and we have a falling stock market and economy , maybe the GOP should just measure the drapes now ? just kidding, but cmon guys.. this is freaking me out! we need to stop bashing each other!

[mountain grammy]

89. This post is insulting.

[ScreamingMeemie]

93. The issue I cannot lay to rest in my head, is her sitting in a room full of senators

and voting to send people to their deaths in an unjust, criminal war. When one Republican senator can vote no, I expect my Democratic senators to be able to do the same.

That gives me pause. The GOP had nothing to do with it. I have ALWAYS had a big problem with the congresscritters who voted for that illegal war, and it's not something we can just sweep under the rug... nor should we.

[MisterP]

94. try not palling around with Wall Street, Riyadh, and APROH

then you'll hear less stuff you can blame on the Pubs

[hopemountain]

97. heck of a way to disEMPOWERer

the left wing of the democratic party. she lies and wiffle waffles and for her it is all about getting into the white house so that wall street and the war machine can keep america corralled in inequality. we have had enough! we want it all and we want it all NOW. your propaganda cannot stop us. can we now add hypocrite to the "gop smears"?

she is no saint and she is not the lesser evil - i.e. hillary's smears of bernie sanders and the democratic party members who support him?

[AgingAmerican]

101. Another pathetic 'reason' to vote Clinton

Anything but the issues.

[Jackilope]

102. No. Let's try not ENABLING a Corporate Hawk.

Voting for Hillary is to enable that Third Way Corporate Con Game. I refuse to be shamed, insulted, and thrown fear because I don't embrace a candidate who has poor judgement in regards to Keystone XL, the Iraq War, called TPP the "Gold standard" before realizing she was on an unpopular position during campaign time and eventually evolved away from it. It is that Wall St. is peachy with her, the campaign dollars collected by those corporate entities that will surely have influence with her, her campaign stunts in 2008 and yes, her campaign antics of 2016 in full cooperation with DNC.

This isn't GOP smears, this is all on her -- and those enabling her by not calling her out.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

103. Another way of looking at it is why run someone that will mobilize Republicans?

[Philos]

107. This

Expect record turnout if she's the nominee.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

108. Some of them are so stupid they think they're going to vote against Obama.

[Indepatriot]

104. So, she didn't take $680,000 from Goldman Sachs, then tell them to "Cut it out"?.....

She didn't vote for the Iraq War?
She didn't support DOMA until just a few years ago?
She didn't lie about Bosnian sniper fire?
She didn't run a condescending, race - baiting campaign in 07'
She didn't just last week call Universal Single-Payer health care a pipe dream?
She didn't send mailers in 07' saying "Obama's coming for your guns" then accuse Sanders of being pro NRA?

I guess that was all RW smears...........OK THEN......

[DisgustipatedinCA]

105. Try to make me vote for her ever. I dare you.

[djean111]

106. You are rewarding years of Third Way machinations.

Won't work. Didn't work a year ago, won't work now. And I am not going to reward the enthusiastic shilling for war, the TPP, fracking, and more H-1B visas, to name a few things. Actually, THOSE things are RW agenda.

[Dems to Win]

109. $250,000 speeches to CitiBank

Hillary chose to make $250,000 speeches to CitiBank et al, metaphorically throwing the bird to the Occupy Wall Streeters as she entered the banks.

Yes, I believe she is corrupt and not to be trusted to be on my side, as a result. No, it is not a result of 25 years of 'GOP smears.'

Hillary knew she would be asking for the votes of Democrats, including OWS, in 2016. Hillary chose to make that task more difficult for herself (and the Democratic Party, if she is the nominee) by accepting $250,000 from CitiBank for a speech in 2013.

If you're a feminist, you believe that women are responsible for their own choices. Pretending is it sexism that dissuades people from voting for Hillary, when Hillary's own choices have clearly made her candidacy problematic for many Democratic activists to join wholeheartedly, is ridiculous and annoying.

[eridani]

110. So now the wingers are gainst TPP, frqcking and more war?

News to me. That said, there certainly have been a lot of sexist personal attacks on Clinton from the right that have exactly jackshit to do with policies.

[VulgarPoet]

114. I've got nine good reasons to oppose her, and it has fuck-all to do with the GOP.

1. TPP
2. PATRIOT Act
3. Iraq War
4. Syria
5. Libya
6. Fracking
7. For Profit Prisons
8. Banker bailouts
9. Attempting to force the tech sector to break encryption

Matter of fact, aren't all of these right-wing points?

[SecularMotion]

116. "They can’t beat her. And they know it."

[LWolf]

118. Er...no.

l found HRC untrustworthy the very first time I saw and heard her...on 60 minutes, back in the 90s, defending her primary candidate husband from the scandal surrounding mean 'ol Gennifer Flowers. It had nothing to do with Republicans, and everything to do with her.