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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:44 PM Feb 2016

How GOP super-pacs have spent millions attacking Hillary on Bernie's behalf.

They want to run against him in the fall, so they've been spending millions to try to help his candidacy along.

I'm not saying this is Bernie's fault or that he can control it.

But it isn't only Bernie who has been doing so well against Hillary; it's Bernie with a big (unrequested) assist from "uber-conservative" super-pacs.

He's not been lowering himself to mudslinging and attacks, but these groups specialize in it.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/01/bernie-sanders-super-pac-money-democratic-rivals.html

It is noteworthy that Senator Sander’s “inconsistent” rise to Super PAC pre-eminence is, in part, due to an unusual pairing of the Sanders campaign and Republican and ultra-conservative super PAC spending to attack Hillary Clinton. Of course the conservatives’ intent is simply to “elevate an avowed socialist.” One that Republicans, conservatives, and the Koch brothers believe will be easy to disparage in a general election. Don’t believe conservative PACs are helping Senator Sanders?

In just one recent ad from the influential Republican super PAC American Crossroads, the uber-conservative group spent a substantial amount of its and the Kochs’ $4.3 million against Clinton parroting a constant Sanders’ attack against Clinton for earning Wall Street speaking fees. There have been no small number of pundits who have suggested, not errantly according to the American Crossroads ad campaign, that a fair share of the attacks on Clinton from “alleged” liberals are being funded and promoted by uber-conservative groups.

If one looks at it from that perspective, Senator Sanders’ campaign is being funded and assisted by more than just one special interest super PAC, and at least one of them is run by Karl Rove.

There is nothing wrong with a campaign taking special interest money; at least not according to Citizens United ruling that Sanders abhors. However, there is an issue when a candidate fairly bases a key part of their campaign and appeal on “shunning” special interest and super PAC money; all while claiming it is funded by grass roots contributors and now Americans know by special interests and super PACs; even uber-conservative super PACs.

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How GOP super-pacs have spent millions attacking Hillary on Bernie's behalf. (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2016 OP
This is silly. Fearless Feb 2016 #1
They just hate Hillary FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #4
Increasingly we see how Bernie keeps his own hands clean. So clean. Hekate Feb 2016 #2
Bernie now controls Republicans?? Fearless Feb 2016 #7
He doesn't have to Hekate Feb 2016 #20
Just stop after the first two words. Fearless Feb 2016 #27
The GOP considers Sandesr the weaker candidate. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #3
I'm not blaming him. I'm saying we don't need to get duped by the GOP. pnwmom Feb 2016 #10
I understand why Republicans are spendng millions to benefit Sanders. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #14
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #23
let it sink frylock Feb 2016 #5
Do we have to have a thread on this every day? Punkingal Feb 2016 #6
It's crowding out the coin toss conspiracy threads. Can't have that! DanTex Feb 2016 #8
Agreed. The GOP isn't the enemy. Hillary is. onehandle Feb 2016 #9
That would be a great idea, at least till the GOP attack ads stop. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #11
Actually they haven't even started in on Hillary yet FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #12
They'll have plenty on "the communist," too, if it comes to that. They can't wait. pnwmom Feb 2016 #15
No Sleazy Graft FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #16
You don't know that. They can make up anything. pnwmom Feb 2016 #18
They don't have to make up any thing - The Clintons have used political office to enrich themselves FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #19
They didn't have anything when they attacked Hillary about Vince Foster pnwmom Feb 2016 #22
But they had plenty to go on with that Kenyan interloper ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #26
Like I said its not illegal FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #30
As Big Gawg once famously said, "be careful what you ask for" GOP 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #13
They don't want Sanders as the nominee shawn703 Feb 2016 #17
They're spending millions helping him. nt pnwmom Feb 2016 #25
For the reason I mentioned. N/t shawn703 Feb 2016 #31
This is a good point about IA uponit7771 Feb 2016 #21
Fantasy Island called. It wants you back on the island. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #24
k&r DesertRat Feb 2016 #28
This is a running cause on msm and talk shows, when you hear a RW talking about getting Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #29
DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #32
That Sanders has benefited more from SuperPACs than Clinton in the primaries is well documented. DanTex Feb 2016 #33

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
2. Increasingly we see how Bernie keeps his own hands clean. So clean.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:46 PM
Feb 2016

As I said in another thread, "He has people for that."

Thanks again, pnwmom.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. The GOP considers Sandesr the weaker candidate.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

But he can not be blamed because Republicans are afraid of Clinton and will tell any lie to hurt her chances.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
10. I'm not blaming him. I'm saying we don't need to get duped by the GOP.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:54 PM
Feb 2016

We need to understand why they're willing to spend millions helping Bernie.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
14. I understand why Republicans are spendng millions to benefit Sanders.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:59 PM
Feb 2016

I would like to see Sanders tell them he doesn't like benefiting by their millions, and see his supporters attack Republicans for spending money to the benefit of their candidate.

Sadly none of that will happen.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
15. They'll have plenty on "the communist," too, if it comes to that. They can't wait.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:01 PM
Feb 2016

And don't forget. They never restrict themselves to the truth.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. You don't know that. They can make up anything.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:09 PM
Feb 2016

And they will.

Did they restrict themselves to the truth when Vince Foster killed himself?

Or how about Obama and birther claims?

Next thing we know, they'll be saying that Bernie got a brain implant during that "honeymoon" he spent in the Soviet Union, and he's part of a master plan to take over the U.S.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
19. They don't have to make up any thing - The Clintons have used political office to enrich themselves
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:20 PM
Feb 2016

It may not be illegal - (and that is a Big Problem in Washington only Bernie is prepared to address) but that doesn't make any less disingenuous and disgusting to have her lying through her teeth promising Working Class Citizens Universal Healthcare only as a ploy to take it away from Bernie

No way in Hell is she going to follow through with that campaign promise - I know it and you know it

Its just the Clinton Sleaze factor

But don't get me wrong. Her and Bill will use her position and power to enrich their self just as they have used her position in State Dept funneling $Millions through the Clinton Foundation for political favors

Just Sleazy as Hell

And if the Dupe the Working Class of this country to do that - then so be it - its just Collateral Damage in the path of the Clinton Graft Machine

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
22. They didn't have anything when they attacked Hillary about Vince Foster
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:27 PM
Feb 2016

and about Rose Hill law firm, etc. etc. etc.

They'll have a field day with Bernie, and he, unlike Hilary, has never faced an attack from them before.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
30. Like I said its not illegal
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:57 PM
Feb 2016

But it goes against every thing voters are supporting this year with Anti-establishment candidates because they are so angry at the Washington as usual

But good luck with your candidate

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
13. As Big Gawg once famously said, "be careful what you ask for" GOP
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:56 PM
Feb 2016

So you really want to run against Bernie, instead of Hillary?

woo-hoo! Bring it on.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
17. They don't want Sanders as the nominee
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

He polls better than Clinton against every Republican. What they want is a protracted fight for the nomination, making sure Clinton's war chest has taken a big hit before the campaign for the general election. When they see Sanders' nomination chances becoming more likely, they'll enter hair on fire mode and refocus their attacks on him.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
29. This is a running cause on msm and talk shows, when you hear a RW talking about getting
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:45 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders the nomination it isn't because they like Sanders and his agenda, they have a desire to have anyone but Hillary as the nominee they have to run against. Don't think for one second the GOP is honestly polling when the numbers goes up for Sanders against their candidates.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
33. That Sanders has benefited more from SuperPACs than Clinton in the primaries is well documented.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:50 AM
Feb 2016

Not just all the GOP attacks, but also the direct involvement of the NNU SuperPAC.

The flip side of this, of course, is that Bernie fans on the internet are more than happy to repeat those same GOP attacks, even post many of them on DU, under the "ends justifies the means" rationale.

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