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Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:14 PM Feb 2016

Charles Blow: "Iowa’s Black Caucusgoers"

On the policy front, many simply found Sanders’s policies unrealistically ambitious, an over-promising of giveaways. As one woman put it, “He sounds like Oprah: ‘You get a car! And you get a car! And you get a car!’ How is he going to pay for all that?”

Clinton’s ambitions seemed to be judged more realistic.

Then, there was the problem of comfort.

The Clintons seem to intuitively understand the value of retail politics, particularly when doing outreach to marginalized groups. I can’t tell you how many stories I’ve heard from black people about the time that one of the Clintons — most often Bill Clinton — spoke at or showed up at an event important to the black community. This means something. It adds to an aura of familiarity that doesn’t extend to Sanders
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Maybe that is why no one I spoke to mentioned “how much damage the Clintons have done — the millions of families that were destroyed the last time they were in the White House thanks to their boastful embrace of the mass incarceration machine and their total capitulation to the right-wing narrative on race, crime, welfare and taxes,” as Michelle Alexander, author of “The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness,” put it Thursday on her Facebook page.

For Sanders’s part, he seemed to be judged too unfamiliar and too absent, particularly down the homestretch. This feels to me like a terrible tactical error. No matter how much his positions and policies may benefit black voters, they are no more interested than any other group of voters in a long-distance love affair. You have to show up. You have to put in the time.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/opinion/iowas-black-caucusgoers.html
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nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
2. Isn't there a formal name for this phenomenon?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016
The Clintons seem to intuitively understand the value of retail politics, particularly when doing outreach to marginalized groups. I can’t tell you how many stories I’ve heard from black people about the time that one of the Clintons — most often Bill Clinton — spoke at or showed up at an event important to the black community. This means something. It adds to an aura of familiarity that doesn’t extend to Sanders
...

Maybe that is why no one I spoke to mentioned “how much damage the Clintons have done — the millions of families that were destroyed the last time they were in the White House thanks to their boastful embrace of the mass incarceration machine and their total capitulation to the right-wing narrative on race, crime, welfare and taxes,” as Michelle Alexander, author of “The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness,” put it Thursday on her Facebook page.

For Sanders’s part, he seemed to be judged too unfamiliar and too absent, particularly down the homestretch. This feels to me like a terrible tactical error. No matter how much his positions and policies may benefit black voters, they are no more interested than any other group of voters in a long-distance love affair. You have to show up. You have to put in the time.


I honestly don't know.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
6. What's often left out of this story is the fact that
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:31 AM
Feb 2016

Democrats and the CBC overwhelmingly supported the bill. During that time, many elected democrats, including the CBC, thought they were helping to address a police shortage which increased crime and police response times in many communities. Obviously, the police are out of control now... but it's disingenuous to pin everything on Clinton. The bill seemed like a good idea at the time and, of course, it lead to many unintended consequences.

Kweisi Mfume, a former representative whose congressional district included Baltimore and who was the chair of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) in the 103rd Congress, is trying to disown his and the CBC's role in pushing through the 1994 crime bill. The 1994 bill was the largest crime bill in U.S. history—it added 100,000 new police officers around the country and committed nearly $10 billion to build new prisons. The bill also included an assault weapons ban, to entice Democrats to vote, and a "midnight basketball" provision that turned off some Republicans who might otherwise be all over a law and order bill like that. The bill passed 235-195, with most Democrats voting in favor and most Republicans voting against. President Clinton happily signed the bill into law.

Now, some supporters of that bill, instead of acknowledging that they're evolving on the issue of being blindly pro-police, are trying to rewrite the history of how that bill passed a Democrat-controlled Congress and was signed into law by a Democratic president.

1994 was a big milestone on the path that might have started in 1968. And the CBC leadership wasn't a passive supporter of the crime bill. The Baltimore Sun quotes Mfume as saying the CBC wasn't doing Clinton a favor by voting for it, but had "put our stamp on this bill," because in addition to a surge in police officers and prisons, which would disproportionately affect poor, young black people, there was an assault weapons ban and a limit on automatic life sentences for repeat offenders.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/30/former-cbc-chair-who-voted-for-1994-crim


Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
8. Be careful - next thing, they'll tell us that black people don't understand what's good for us
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:15 AM
Feb 2016

But Bernie does, so we should just listen to him . . .

dsc

(52,162 posts)
12. and you wonder why they won't listen to you
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:06 AM
Feb 2016

just disgusting but sadly all too typical of many Bernie supporters.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
10. Are people really saying blacks hate Sanders?
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:36 AM
Feb 2016

Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that it's more that the AA community likes Clinton, rather than there being much actual animosity toward Sanders. No?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. Good article. Pointing this out invariably draws out angry Bernie supporters with accusations of
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:21 AM
Feb 2016

"race baiting." I guess Charles Blow is under the bus now too.

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