The majority of a single vote as sacred as if unanimous.

[DCBob]

"The first principle of republicanism is that the lex majoris partis is the fundamental law of every society of individuals of equal rights; to consider the will of the society enounced by the majority of a single vote as sacred as if unanimous is the first of all lessons in importance, yet the last which is thoroughly learnt. This law once disregarded, no other remains but that of force, which ends necessarily in military despotism."

--Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, 1817. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson 15:127

[orpupilofnature57]

1. Thomas Jefferson also said " Beware of the Monied interests " how she look there ?

[cali]

2. Lol.

She blew a 45 point lead in under 3 months. She's as close to an incumbent as could possibly be. She had every Iowa endorsement.

I could go on, but the point would remain the same: Hillary is a lousy campaigner. And she doesn't have a core inspirational message.

[DanTex]

3. Beating Bernie in a state full of liberal white people is a big win. Spin away.

[orpupilofnature57]

4. Not like the thumping The President gave Hillary, But that's because of Shrub, right ?

Spin your wheels, she looked petrified at her Victory .

[DanTex]

7. Obama ran a great campaign, and I was a big supporter. Contributed very early.

Bernie is no Obama.

[Fearless]

9. Hillary is no Obama.

[DanTex]

10. No, she isn't. There is no Obama this time around, unfortunately. So we go with the

best candidate we have, which is Hillary.

[Fearless]

11. Best for whom?

[DanTex]

12. Best for defeating the GOP.

[Fearless]

13. That is false.

[DanTex]

14. Difference of opinion, I guess. I don't see Bernie holding up to the GOP attack machine.

[JudyM]

16. There is vastly more that they can attack about Hillary.

Not to mention she's already a lightning rod for their base to get out the vote.

Bernie is among the most well liked members of congress, both sides of the aisle. What does their attack machine have on him besides his socialism, which people aren't that afraid of any more.

[DanTex]

17. They already have, and they've already failed. See: Benghazi hearings.

Bernie's socialism, as much as his fans want to deny it, is an enormous vulnerability. IN the Bernie bubble, where everyone is a socialist, obviously it doesn't seem that way. But polls confirm that socialist is a third rail.

[JudyM]

18. Do you have polls that break this out according to party and independents? I haven't.

It's logical to expect that the people for whom socialism is a third rail are those who are going to be voting for Cruz (or whoever takes the R nom).

[DanTex]

19. Yup. Only 59% of Dems and 49% if Indys would be willing to vote for a socialist.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx

[JudyM]

20. Ok, this was back in June.

Nonetheless, it is sobering for what it superficially looks like. However, socialism has only recently become part of any active national dialogue, so - and you're free to shrug this off, but at least consider it - it could well be that socialism 7 months ago was viewed with less familiarity and thus more fear, than the concept now that Bernie has both humanized it and provided the examples of Medicare, social security, etc. People now have a better idea of what it means. I'd bet you $5 that if the poll were redone today the numbers would be significantly different.

[DanTex]

21. True, but I doubt that opinions about socialism change that quickly.

Opinions about individual politicians go up and down, but general beliefs not so quickly. It would be useful to have a more recent poll, but I don't want to bet something as important as the presidency on the hope that people drastically changed their opinion about socialism in the last 12 months.

The other thing is, with Bernie, we've only heard good things about socialism. Which is great. But once the GOP gets in the game, people will hear plenty of bad also.

[JudyM]

22. I do wonder what they have up their sleeve in so actively trashing Hillary. Can't tell if it's

personal or if it's maneuvering to have a shot a Bernie instead. So I share that concern, but I think the balance is weighed far more against her. Plus besides electability, which I think he wins, I like his values a whole hell of a lot more.

[orpupilofnature57]

23. That would be the Bern , because among Democrats Hillary is an icon of Evil, ' Citizens United '

was created in part to Vilify Her .

[Fearless]

8. Race baiting again?

[orpupilofnature57]

5. + 1000000000000 !!!!!!!!!!!

[BlueJazz]

6. I agree. She sucks at campaigning. I mean sucks as in a 747-800 jetliner sucks in air. The woman...

...comes off as an actor without much experience. Strange enough, I actually like her but am very doubtful she can pull this off.
I feel like I'm on a blind date and she is trying WAY too hard to make me like her.

Sad..

[Matariki]

15. If this were an election and not a divvying up of delegates

you'd have something.