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Who are Republicans more likely to cooperate with? Bernie or Hillary? Discuss... (Original Post) Fearless Feb 2016 OP
What means this word "cooperate"? EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #1
Legislate. Fearless Feb 2016 #2
As long as you are willing to gut Social Security, Food Stamps ... Trajan Feb 2016 #36
Neither, they will do as they did to Obama...` JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #3
The only thing Repubs hate more than powerful women is... JaneyVee Feb 2016 #4
So you're suggesting we vote for... Bernie then? Fearless Feb 2016 #7
If you're looking for gridlock, stagnation, and chaos, sure. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Fearless Feb 2016 #18
None of the above. elleng Feb 2016 #5
Green tie? Lovin' the Irish look. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #15
Real Republicans, or the Teaparty? Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #6
hmm handmade34 Feb 2016 #8
Who wants policies that are "halfway between Clinton and Ryan" to be imposed? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #9
Which candidate will be able to find common ground then? Fearless Feb 2016 #10
My guess is Bernie Jarqui Feb 2016 #11
Great article. Bernie's effective. Funny that Barney Frank thinks Bernie acts like he's smarter than JudyM Feb 2016 #34
He already does Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #12
Wow, what a question! IF the current crop of pubs keep their seats, then the answer is NEITHER! napi21 Feb 2016 #13
Hillary is more likely to cooperate with the Republicans. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #16
THIS. Ron Green Feb 2016 #44
Neither. bigwillq Feb 2016 #17
So elect someone else entirely? Fearless Feb 2016 #19
Hillary (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #20
So you're saying that Republicans are more likely to work with her than Bernie? Fearless Feb 2016 #23
Yes (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #25
That depends on the kind of legislation, does it not? sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #21
For me, this is not a selling point for a Presidential candidate n/t DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #22
They'll be too busy with IMPEACHMENT hearings and investigations to do any cooperating with HRH, in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #24
Bernie has respect. She is hated. 840high Feb 2016 #42
And "hated" is putting it nicely! n/t in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #43
On the issues.. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #26
This is a very bad question for Sanders to address uponit7771 Feb 2016 #27
Why? Fearless Feb 2016 #28
He has yet to outline how his revolution is going to get around a historically gerrymandered GOP... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #30
Not only is everything you've just said false, it doesn't even answer the question. Fearless Feb 2016 #31
Please outline how the left has influenced this GOP gerrymandered congress to do anything... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #32
I asked you which one Hillary or Bernie, the GOP would be more likely to work with. Fearless Feb 2016 #35
Ok, you're right... I'll address the OP.. NIETHER.. they don't have to.. the fact that you're uponit7771 Feb 2016 #37
Ok, so your answer is neither. So are you suggesting another person would be better? Fearless Feb 2016 #39
No, that's my main beef with Sanders... he proffers that the historically gerrymandered GOP congress uponit7771 Feb 2016 #40
this is interesting notadmblnd Feb 2016 #29
Neither. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #33
Neither. We have to work on down ballot elections. one_voice Feb 2016 #38
If you want to vote for someone the Republicans will cooperate with... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #41
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
36. As long as you are willing to gut Social Security, Food Stamps ...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:55 PM
Feb 2016

... And eradicate public education, then the GOP would be GLAD to 'co-operate' ...

ANY democrat who did so would be hounded out of office ...

So, what's your point? ... Work with republicans to annihilate the Middle class?

Screw that ... And screw anybody who advises it. ..

JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
3. Neither, they will do as they did to Obama...`
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

To them the White House is their property, whomever has a D next to their name and sits in that office will forever be seen by them as an fraud super mega ultra-Stalin/Commie/Satanic/Secret Muslim/Femnazi/Ultra-death-bot!

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #14)

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
6. Real Republicans, or the Teaparty?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

I think the GOP traditionalists will work with either, equally.

I think the Teaparty will refuse to work either, equally.

Let's face it, if they thought Obama was a radical leftist...

Bernie will make their heads spin, and the only reason they need to hate Hillary is she is a woman.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
8. hmm
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

based on recent behavior, the Republicans will not cooperate with either Bernie or Hillary... which is why our primary focus should be on electing Democrats everywhere in all offices... not just the Presidential race

and we all must vote in EVERY election, not just every 4 years

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. Who wants policies that are "halfway between Clinton and Ryan" to be imposed?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:11 PM
Feb 2016

I have no interest in a president who will cooperate with the current republican party

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
10. Which candidate will be able to find common ground then?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

And what are the pros and cons of that common ground?

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
34. Great article. Bernie's effective. Funny that Barney Frank thinks Bernie acts like he's smarter than
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:50 PM
Feb 2016

everyone else... Considering that's how Frank acts most of the time.

Pot...kettle...

napi21

(45,806 posts)
13. Wow, what a question! IF the current crop of pubs keep their seats, then the answer is NEITHER!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

Those dirtballs think it's horrible if you agree with a Dem. on anything. And YES, they would think of Bernie as a Dem.

IF those in Congress realize that their voters HATE the way they are doing business and that's why Trump is so successful because they HATE the establishment, they just might change their tactics. They COULD work better with Bernie because he was a Senator until he was elected to the presidency, OR they could work better with Hillary because she is more of a fighter.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
16. Hillary is more likely to cooperate with the Republicans.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:29 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie will turn to the people and ask them to demand the Republicans cooperate.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
24. They'll be too busy with IMPEACHMENT hearings and investigations to do any cooperating with HRH,
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

The woman they hate with a burning, visceral, passionate hatred. They LOATHE HER.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
26. On the issues..
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

they will cooperate more with her. She's closer to them ideologically and she's pragmatic. But it will be a nasty election with a lot of character attacks if she is the nominee and there will be wounds to heal.

If Bernie is the nominee they'll attack him as a "socialist," but not personally.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
30. He has yet to outline how his revolution is going to get around a historically gerrymandered GOP...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:44 PM
Feb 2016

... congress.

At the center of Sanders revolution is the pixie dust politics of the people influencing this GOP gerrymandered congress...

They gop haven't in the last 4 years with weaker numbers, they wont in the next 6 years with even stronger numbers

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
31. Not only is everything you've just said false, it doesn't even answer the question.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:46 PM
Feb 2016

Why is the Republican party more likely going to be able to work with Hillary than Bernie, as per your previous statement suggesting that?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
32. Please outline how the left has influenced this GOP gerrymandered congress to do anything...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016

... I'll wait.

.. and no, Hillary isn't outlining a plan to work with the GOP congress she has already said she'd work around them and Sanders will soon follow her lead

Reality doesn't suck

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
35. I asked you which one Hillary or Bernie, the GOP would be more likely to work with.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

I did not ask which candidate was more likely to work with the GOP.

There is a big difference there.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
37. Ok, you're right... I'll address the OP.. NIETHER.. they don't have to.. the fact that you're
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:57 PM
Feb 2016

... asking this question as a SBS supporter establish's what i've said about his campaign.. its good marketing.

You should already know that this congress will do nothing they don't want to do for the American people.. they haven't because they're gerrymandered.

They can LITERALLY burn down a pediatrics oncology ward on prime time TV painted with Joker Face and STILL be voted back into their seats because the way the districts were digitally gerrymandered...

There's only one other time in US history that congress has been this much gerrymandered and Sanders knows this...

But he's chided others for compromising ...

I'm not compromising my stance against pixie dust politics

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
40. No, that's my main beef with Sanders... he proffers that the historically gerrymandered GOP congress
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:12 PM
Feb 2016

... can be dealt with at all while their track record shows they'll spend 24 billion dollars in shutting down the government

Vs outlining how he can go around them and marginalize them to nothingness...

If Sanders were willing to admit that he and others in the past, including Obama, have had to scrape and scratch and claw and compromise with what they've had because they have had a lot .... then it being easier to support his agenda.

But no..

His agenda depends on people not knowing any of these and just being bad at "the establishment"...

Hell, if he said he'd put their ass's in jail I'd be all in...

That'd be revolution and something Americans can support

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
29. this is interesting
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:41 PM
Feb 2016
none of his Sen­ate col­leagues, on either side of the aisle, think he could ever be elec­ted pres­id­ent of the United States; most of them even be­lieve he shouldn’t be.

But rather than earn­ing the frus­tra­tion and ire of his peers in the vein of oth­er Sen­ate hard-liners such as Sen. Ted Cruz, Sanders has man­aged to be re­spec­ted — even liked — by much of the cham­ber, ac­cord­ing to mem­bers on both sides of the aisle. The Ver­mont in­de­pend­ent ac­tu­ally has much more in com­mon with Sen. Tom Coburn, the now-re­tired “Dr. No,” whose hard-line op­pos­i­tion killed many bills in the Sen­ate but also earned him the re­spect of his col­leagues on both sides of the aisle.

Sanders also has been able to work well with his col­leagues. He’s passed bi­par­tis­an le­gis­la­tion and forged strong re­la­tion­ships with mem­bers of both parties in nearly 25 years on Cap­it­ol Hill. But most of all, mem­bers say, even when Sanders is ideo­lo­gic­ally an out­lier, he lets oth­ers know where he stands. He’s not the type to sud­denly stab a col­league in the back. And that’s earned him re­spect both on and off the Hill.

“A lot of people here talk about what they be­lieve in, but they don’t act on it,” Sen. Mark Warner said. “He al­ways acts on what he be­lieves. “¦ We can agree or dis­agree, but you know where he stands.”

Law­makers on both sides of the aisle, in­clud­ing Sanders him­self, point to last year’s deal to im­prove the dis­astrous, scan­dal-rid­den Vet­er­ans Af­fairs De­part­ment as a high­light. After weeks of ne­go­ti­at­ing with a cadre of Re­pub­lic­an col­leagues, Sanders helped pass the deal on a 91-3 vote in the Sen­ate. “In a pretty dys­func­tion­al Con­gress I helped pass, in a bi­par­tis­an way, the sig­ni­fic­ant vet­er­ans bill, which in­creases health care to vet­er­ans and lowers wait­ing times, and I’m proud of that,” Sanders said. “That was a sig­ni­fic­ant step for­ward.”


http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/71225/bernie-sanders-is-loud-stubborn-socialist-republicans-like-him-anyway

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
38. Neither. We have to work on down ballot elections.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

If they think Obama is some left wing commie extremist, they're gonna think the same about either of them. They're complete assholes (the republicans).

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
41. If you want to vote for someone the Republicans will cooperate with...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016

...you'll have to vote for a Republican.

As for Hillary vs. Bernie, I think Bernie has a slightly larger chance of flipping R seats to D seats, in this and subsequent congressional elections.

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