Hilary proved one thing in Iowa..she can win coin tosses.

[shraby]

I guess this belongs in this forum.

[guillaumeb]

1. Did Chelsea supply the coin?

Her husband certainly makes enough coin.

[MoonRiver]

2. Did you see Skinner's post debunking this whole coin toss idiocy?

[uponit7771]

4. Facts have an establishment bias

[In_The_Wind]

6. Here's the link for those who missed it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511123143

[jberryhill]

22. Yeah, but the OP is just plain funny anyway

[uponit7771]

3. There are sectors of Americans who usually don't get any credit for accomplishments and they all

... happen to be supporting Hillary in most polls.

Not Sanders, which is ironic no?

[Voice for Peace]

8. People have different views of what "accomplishments" means.

The greatest accomplishment of a human life in my opinion is to live to our final breath with compassion and a clean conscience. Never to compromise those fundamentals. All the rest is a bag of tricks and talents, crapshoots.

I can't see the inner life of anyone else but have come to trust my own compass. That true north is where honesty truth and inspiration shine.

[uponit7771]

9. Yeap, to NOT recognize the accomplishments of these groups of Americans just change the meaning

... of accomplishment.

Sanders is already compromising on issues... even before he gets into office

[Voice for Peace]

10. Reading comprehension lacking

You and I have different views. Does that make me wrong?
Do you see any value in what I posted?

[uponit7771]

11. Yes I do see value, a lot of passion... and a want for a better America through progressive

... policies and a willingness to sacrafice something valuable and tangible (time, effort, sweat) to get there.

I do NOT see ....

The willingness too recognize that in others... including Hillary Clinton... from Sanders... at all.

regards

[Voice for Peace]

12. You don't see it in sanders specifically?

Not sure what you are saying.
Or what exactly you mean by 'it'
?

[uponit7771]

14. No, I don't see Sanders recognize the passion and want for a more progressive America

... in Hillary.. not at all.

Not one iota and it oozes out of the pores of his supporters which every word type or said.

FACT: The poor, blacks, Hispanics, gays, women and cute puppies all lean towards Clinton in most polls...

The very people Sanders says he's having this revolution for lean AWAY from his message TO them and lean towards a person like them...

the marginalized

[Voice for Peace]

21. I don't think your info is accurate, but time will tell.

There are, I think, valid reasons to question her electability, the effect of Clinton policies on the AA community, the content of her relationship to wall street; the ease with which she and her spokespeople distort Bernie's message -- as if dishonesty is ok in politics, or anywhere else for that matter. That was the dealbreaker for me in '08, and again now: the dishonesty. And this time around, the overall disrespect of DNC toward Sanders' campaign.

[Voice for Peace]

18. This leans philosophical but matters to me: "accomplishments"

A man grew up in extreme poverty.
Climbed out by hard work, good karma and fortune. He started and ran several small businesses, though one after another folded -- not for lack of hard work; but many external forces out of his control.

Raised 3 great kids, put them all through college. Refinanced and refinanced his home, businesses;; supported his parents till their deaths, then took care of wife through years of unaffordable treatments for her terminal cancr. Lost a son in Iraq.

He always helped neighbors and strangers. Never lied stole or cheated. Took in stray people and animals and shared whatever he could. Died peacefully in his sleep at 89. A peaceful heart, a life lived. Hardly anyone knew his name. Did he accomplish less than, say, Nancy Pelosi?

A lot of people like him are fans of, and donors to, Bernie. Their accomplishments don't count as much to you? A sincere question.

[uponit7771]

19. Of course they do, this person lived a meaningful and quite life...

The same is NOT being said about Hillary... and people notice... and grow closer to her as she becomes more like one of them.

[Voice for Peace]

23. Not sure I understand your meaning

I have learned some things I wish I didn't even know about Hilary. Probably much more on file wherever that came from -- which is one of my main concerns about her electability. One source provided recordings related to defense of a client, although a long time ago seemed in character, and casts doubt on her reputation as champion for women/girls.

My perception is that what shines through Hilary is willingness to win at any cost. It's impossible for me personally to see past her methods in order to find a passionate progressive.

[Metric System]

5. THIS is how I know Hillary won Iowa (besides the vote delegate count).

[GoneFishin]

7. yep. She kicks ass at coin tosses.

[global1]

13. Coin Toss And Flip Flops And Wiskers On Kittens.....

Progressive or Moderate - She's sounding like Mittens
Silver tongued husband - rich donor money to kick
Hillary's just saying - whatever will stick.

Sung to the tune of Raindrops on Roses.

This is only the first verse.

[GoneFishin]

15. "Coin Toss And Flip Flops And Wiskers On Kittens" - was enough for me to hear the tune of

My Favorite Things in my mind.

[global1]

17. Maybe We Rename The Song "Her Favorite Things"....nt

[PADemD]

24. Coin Toss And Flip Flops

Coin Toss And Flip Flops And Wiskers On Kittens
Gold standard trade deals and more votes than Mittens
All of the money that super PAC's bring
These are a few of my favorite things.

When I'm losing
And not winning
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad.

[global1]

25. I Like Your Version Better Than Mine....

of maybe we can combine them and be like Rogers & Hammerstein.

[PADemD]

26. Lots of Practice

Whenever someone at work retired or moved on to another job, they always got a parting poem.

[mhatrw]

16. And she can work the system for her and hers.

But we already knew that.

[silvershadow]

20. "220, 221, whatever it takes". (Quote from Mr. Mom). nt