It's already begun with Hillary bracing for a NH loss

[pinebox]

Bernie was just om MSNBC and they asked him about NH and the press core brought up Hillary's comments about how a NH loss wouldn't be that big of a deal. Bernie's reply? "Hillary won in NH against Obama". Ouch! He then went in to challenging her to a debate in NYC, a state she represented and a state she doesn't seem to want to debate in.

WOOF!

[ViseGrip]

1. But but but......

[thereismore]

2. Bernie should go after her record/history more often. If the shoe fits... nt

[asuhornets]

9. Or maybe she should go after his..

oh I forgot he's been in Congress for 25 years, he does not have a record to go after. Anti-establishment? Yea right.

[thereismore]

11. Damn right she should. It's a political campaign after all.

I will not be trolled.

[FBaggins]

32. That would be a great idea, except...

She's running in the Democratic primary.

[JaneyVee]

3. Right, and Obama won in Iowa. And Obama isn't from Vermont.

[Fearless]

8. And Clinton isn't from New York.

[R B Garr]

13. The point about that is NH has a history of

voting for neighbors. Sanders is a NH neighbor from Vermont.

[Fearless]

22. Umm... New York boarders VT as well.

[Loudestlib]

35. Maps, how do they work?

[SwampG8r]

46. +1000 for subtle icp reference

[R B Garr]

38. Umm, is New York voting next week?

This thread was about New Hampshire.

[Fearless]

39. Does New York not vote in less than a month?

What is this arbitrary time limit you've constructed to warp facts to suit your point of view?

[R B Garr]

45. HAHa this has been in the news for most of January

since her husband, Bill started campaigning for her in New Hampshire. No wonder you are confused! You can Google his comments about NEW HAMPSHIRE.

[onehandle]

4. Tiny state bordering the tiny state he currently has a residence in.

I like his chances in that one state.

Also the state he moved to Brooklyn from.

[peacebird]

31. You would've thought Hillary could have won Iowa by a landslide, after all she was born in the state

Next door... Based on your logic.

Instead she had a squeaker......

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. Paul Tsongas won New Hampshire

He was from the region, too.

[TwilightGardener]

7. Hillary's from Illinois. Iowa should have been a blowout. If we're going by

region and neighboring states and all.

[Dem2]

12. She moved to Arkansas in 1975.

Bernie moved to Vermont in 1968.

You're not even trying.

[TwilightGardener]

16. People keep dismissing any win he gets in NH as him being next door, but he's not even from VT.

Hillary is a midwesterner, no? Grew up right next door.

[Dem2]

24. Bernie is from Vermont

unless one considers 48 years in a state (as a lifelong politician to boot) "just passing through."

[TwilightGardener]

27. He's actually not. I can live where I live for another 50 years or more and that doesn't make me

from here. I grew up in PA, that's where I'm from, graduated from high school there. Hillary's from Illinois. Period. Why didn't they love a native midwestern neighbor enough to give her a decisive win?

[Dem2]

29. You're so stubborn and missing the point

why?

Makes no sense to be so obstinate.

[TwilightGardener]

34. There's no stubbornness about it. Hillary is an Illinois native.

How did that not make her a heavier favorite in IA? It helped Obama to have been a Senator from neighboring Illinois during the IA caucuses, but he wasn't from there originally. I'm just saying, there's no reason Hillary Clinton shouldn't win NH if her message and organization are strong enough. If no one expected a close-to-home-court advantage for her in IA, then no one should expect it from Bernie in NH.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. Hillary won Iowa

[TwilightGardener]

15. Blowout? Decisive?

Or edged him by barely a few and no one can now verify those results? Because if Bernie wins New Hampshire by .3, that would be kinda embarrassing, right? You'd certainly crow about that, right?

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. Win's a win. I don't truck in these childish "Your Supporters My Supporters" crowing operations

Win's a win, for Bernie or Hillary. If Bernie wins New Hampshire by 0.3 or 30 I'll post my congratulations on a job well done.

[TwilightGardener]

20. Expectations and momentum are what count. And then delegates.

Hillary should have done better in Iowa than to eke out a historically narrow (and potentially disputable) victory, considering her overwhelming advantages, and the Clinton camp knows that. Bernie did better than expected--he wasn't the favorite to win. He is the favorite to win NH, and if it comes down to less than 1%, it will slow his momentum going forth. Some of us would be honest enough to admit that.

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. Meh

Momentum is a nice word.

Have fun.

[DefenseLawyer]

6. Of course last time it was South Carolina that didn't matter

Remember this gem?

[CajunBlazer]

10. And Bernie is bracing for big time losses in 14 iof the next 15 states

[roguevalley]

47. no he isnt

[DanTex]

17. Of course Bernie's gonna win NH. It's a small overwhelmingly white state next to VT.

The next real contest is Nevada.

[DefenseLawyer]

25. I seem to recall Hillary thought it was important in 2008

When she won it.

[DanTex]

26. Yes, when she wasn't running against a guy from Vermont whose support is highest

among white liberals.

[DefenseLawyer]

28. Riiiight, that time it was SC that didn't matter because she was running against the black guy

I'm starting to figure things out, I'm just a little slow.

[DanTex]

30. Don't worry, you'll figure it out. Or not. In a month or two, Hillary will be the nominee,

and it won't matter anymore, so maybe just spend your mental effort somewhere else.

[DefenseLawyer]

36. Thanks, boss!

I feel better already!

[Beacool]

19. Of course Sanders is expected to win NH, it neighbors VT and has the same demographics.

The surprise would be if Hillary won NH. Hillary winning in NH would be the real shocker.

What's the "ouch" about? Obama was not from a neighboring state.

[DrDan]

23. her loss will be a win . . . isn't that the way it works here?

[silvershadow]

33. .

[elmac]

37. In the end it doesn't matter who wins what states

if Bernie supporters or HRC supporters stay home during the general election. This circular firing squad will guarantee a President Cruz in November.

[demwing]

40. The election will not be affected by an argument on DU

We are not that important

[OhZone]

41. We already know Bernie's gonna win NH. Geez. n/t

[geek tragedy]

42. Clinton will get everyone who voted for her in 2008 plus around 20%

of the Obama/Edwards/everyone else vote.

Which means a loss of 13-17%.

[all american girl]

43. I may not be the smartest person in town....but wasn't he suppose to win?

That's what I thought.

[LiberalElite]

44. Somewhere here on DU I saw

an OP claiming that if she loses with less than 30 points, it's a win.