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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:21 PM Feb 2016

Why does Bernie Sanders have such poorly trained volunteers?

I ask because there is still the allegation circulating here (based on an anonymousblogger on Reddit) that cheating occurred in the tallying of voters in the C-Span broadcast Caucus in Des Moines, with the further allegation of collusion by the elected Precinct Chair. I watched the entire Caucus as well, and there was a clearly identified Sanders Precinct Captain working with the Precinct Chair through the meeting. So, was she not paying attention to what went on? Was she not trained to complain if a violation occurred or at least instructed to call Campaign HQ? Or is it just possible that no violation occurred in the opinion of the people actually there?

Add to which, am I to understand that the Clinton Precinct Captain decided to cheat in full view of TV cameras?

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Why does Bernie Sanders have such poorly trained volunteers? (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2016 OP
A revolution is messy. Ron Green Feb 2016 #1
Real question is RobertEarl Feb 2016 #2
no training required... birds of a feather syndrome. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #5
Just comes natural? RobertEarl Feb 2016 #8
borderline personality disorder sufferers as well. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #11
Clinton voters are mentally ill cheaters? Dem2 Feb 2016 #13
What interesting is the voters decided not to recount, by voting. Agschmid Feb 2016 #3
I know! How dare she allow dirty shenanigans to go on! It's all her fault! cyberswede Feb 2016 #4
Here's the fraud perpetrated by Hillary people from CSPAN... ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #6
WOW HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #14
Hillary supporters just hid a post of mine that was a Hillary quote. Be careful... ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #15
Smart jury. Context matters. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #17
The post violated no rules. It was a chickenshit hide. That's alright though. It's... ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #19
Intentionally misleading crap gets hidden here all the time. JTFrog Feb 2016 #20
I will be watching. And alerting like a firehouse alarm. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #21
Careful, someone might come along and give you a warning, lol. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #22
You won one, you lost one. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #23
I'm flattered that you are stalking me. JTFrog Feb 2016 #25
Um...excuse me... You're the one that is stalking, after all you're here, responding to my post, not ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #28
"I will be watching. And alerting like a firehouse alarm. nt" JTFrog Feb 2016 #29
I will be watching. Not just you either. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #31
You do that. JTFrog Feb 2016 #32
I will do that. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #34
Ok. JTFrog Feb 2016 #37
It seems that any anti-establishment candidate would have less well-trained volunteers Sanity Claws Feb 2016 #7
You're basing your allegations on an anonymous reddit blogger? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #9
Why was Hillary unable to defeat such an amateurish operation? nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #10
I would ask the same questions for the Clinton campaign Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #12
There is no substitute for experience. Downwinder Feb 2016 #16
Lol cali Feb 2016 #18
Keep on whistling past the graveyard. Sanders' volunteers were so poorly trained they KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #24
+1 Go Vols Feb 2016 #26
Too funny.... Punkingal Feb 2016 #27
I Spent $100 million And All I Got Was This Lousy .2% lead dorkzilla Feb 2016 #33
LOL. Punkingal Feb 2016 #36
How did Bernie's "poorly trained" volunteers pull off a tie election The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #30
Likely many of them are young and inexperienced and do not realize the ramifications of RKP5637 Feb 2016 #35
Former Iowa Sen.Tom Harkin said Hillary has the best Iowa caucus ground operation he has ever Autumn Feb 2016 #38

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
3. What interesting is the voters decided not to recount, by voting.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:23 PM
Feb 2016

So obviously they didn't feel there was any fraud.

Not sure what that video is "showing" doesn't seem like anything IMO.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
4. I know! How dare she allow dirty shenanigans to go on! It's all her fault!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:24 PM
Feb 2016

She must have been asking for it

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
14. WOW
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:06 PM
Feb 2016

The Hillary precinct captain lied repeatedly there. The Sanders people did the right thing by challenging the vote and demanding a recount, but of course the crowd didn't want to stand there for another 30 minutes. Unbelievable.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
19. The post violated no rules. It was a chickenshit hide. That's alright though. It's...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:16 PM
Feb 2016

...put me on the warpath. People should be careful what they say and how they say it.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
28. Um...excuse me... You're the one that is stalking, after all you're here, responding to my post, not
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

the other way around.

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
7. It seems that any anti-establishment candidate would have less well-trained volunteers
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:29 PM
Feb 2016

Training using refers to doing things the way they have been done. Someone who does not like the way things are will not train people to do things the way they are being done.

 

Flying Phoenix

(114 posts)
12. I would ask the same questions for the Clinton campaign
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:50 PM
Feb 2016

Unable to hold a huge lead and not WIN. A TIE, is all she got for her $100 million Iowa campaign?

Absolutely brilliant. Now she has to go find more money for the rest of the states.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
24. Keep on whistling past the graveyard. Sanders' volunteers were so poorly trained they
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

almost knocked Goliath out of the race in the first nominating contest. More of that poor training, please!

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
33. I Spent $100 million And All I Got Was This Lousy .2% lead
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:24 PM
Feb 2016

And I lost to REALLY HORRIBLE, POORLY-TRAINED, STUPID, IDEALIST and NOT REAL DEMOCRATS.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
30. How did Bernie's "poorly trained" volunteers pull off a tie election
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:22 PM
Feb 2016

when all the pundits predicted Hillary would win in a walk?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
35. Likely many of them are young and inexperienced and do not realize the ramifications of
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

what they do or say. To me, it's horrible when democrats say things and fight among ourselves. I like both Bernie and Hillary, and would never say bad things about either one. It's so frustrating for me when I see a lot of name calling and all by anyone. It's so damn immature. The focus needs to be on getting a dem in the WH in 2016. Just my thoughts, brooklynite, I've wondered too.


Autumn

(45,120 posts)
38. Former Iowa Sen.Tom Harkin said Hillary has the best Iowa caucus ground operation he has ever
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

seen. How could they not soundly defeat such amateurs?

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