2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo what is the final outcome of Iowa?
Are all of the irregularities settled? The missing precinct? The 90? The coin tosses?
Those of us on the west coast may not be up to speed yet.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)You post that is if that is the final end all to the OPs question.
That's what's being reported but we are seeing all sorts of discrepancies and shenanigans popping up all over the place
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)They are last nights news and have been addressed.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Thank you Botany
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141334345
Missing precinct scrambles to report Sanders won
Source: Des Moines Register
Votes from one precinct in Iowa were still missing Tuesday morning, and Democrats from that neighborhood were scrambling to find party officials so that they could report their tally: Bernie Sanders won by 2 delegates.
But the voters of Des Moines precinct No. 42 couldnt find anyone at Iowa Democratic Party to take their phone calls. The partys caucus hotline was no longer working. The party headquarters was locked.
Its important considering how close the race is. We need to be sure everyone has our accurate count, said Jill Joseph, a rank-and-file Democratic voter who backed Sanders in at No. 42 Monday night.
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It quickly raised questions about whether Sanders had won the popular vote in Iowa. Sanders backers called for Iowa Democratic Party officials to release the raw vote totals.
Read more: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/some-democratic-precinct-results-unaccounted/79682184/
jeff47
(26,549 posts)No, the irregularities are not settled. There are charges of election fraud backed by video. However, they are not enough to significantly change the delegate count. You'll still get basically a tie.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)??
Seriously, the Sanders camp better recruit a bunch of volunteer lawyers to monitor every state. Clinton and her followers will try to steal this at every turn.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Those delegates will choose who goes to the convention, but 0.3% isn't enough to swing that pool.
angel123
(79 posts)This sounds so much like republicans accusing democrats of election fraud, without proof. Has Hillary ever been accused of election fraud? Republican talking points should have no place on a so called democratic site.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)3 people walked out. They determined that it wouldn't change the delegate outcome and they voted to accept the results.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)However, none of them are large enough to significantly move the results. It will still be basically a tie.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)certain.
The fact is there was no 2nd Clinton vote. At all. The Clinton precinct chair lied about that. THAT is why people are alleging fraud. because the precinct chair perjured herself.
Of course, it may not have affected things, but we'll never know.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)He may even win the nomination. Bill is bummed and Bernie is quite happy.
angel123
(79 posts)Yes, he could possibly win the nomination to go on to lose the general. Believe me, republicans will bury him with the socialist tag. If is true that some of his young supporters think that socialist mean support of social security, I am worried.
JudyM
(29,274 posts)There's powerful negative emotional vitriol about her that fires up the right wing masses.
They might not feel strongly about voting for their candidate, but they sure as hell aren't going to let Hillary become president. They're not so worked up about socialists, the surveys are showing, especially as Bernie will continue to explain that to include social security, Medicare, etc.
Plus Hillary is going to get buried, to use your word, by her scandals, whether they are well founded or not she will be getting continuing negative press.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Clinton and Sanders will divide up delegates about evenly for the county conventions. There, a smaller group of delegates will be elected for the congressional district conventions. There, an even smaller group will be selected for the state convention, which will elected about 44 delegates for the national convention.
In the end, those national convention delegates will be about the same numbers for both candidates. At the national convention, Iowa's delegates make up about 1% of the entire nation's nominating delegates.
The tiny details in Iowa don't matter all that much, in the end. It was essentially a tie, and that will be reflected in Iowa's delegation to the national convention.