2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Romney loses Ohio...
Then he must win Florida.
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... and Virginia.
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... and North Carolina.
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... and Iowa.
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... and Wisconsin.
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... and Colorado.
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... and Nevada.
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... to get to 268 electoral votes, and lose by only two.
Suck it, Republicans.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)FL is not gone for him, but if he is loosing in OH and behind in FL than he has to do some work. However he is not even fighting in FL that much.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Most polls have Obama ahead here. Barring some great shift in the universe, Obama wins IA.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,640 posts)It looks like dominoes.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)It's no secret here in the West that those two states are probably off the table. Chuck Todd even quoted a pollster who called Nevada demographically impossible. Romney HAS to win some combination of OH, IA and WI to have a prayer.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)pasto76
(1,589 posts)while this is a home state for a lot of whack jobs, the economy has sucked ass for too long, and a lot more people are wise as to who is responsible. 4 years ago, there were McCain signs everywhere. Now I notice when I see a romney sign, because they are few and far between.
JTG of the PRB
(5,103 posts)I've noticed that too! The rMoney signs (and bumper stickers) really stand out because there's almost none of them around!
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)They have to steal Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Don't tell the media though. Apparently this race is still a dead heat!
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)There is a reason no Repub has won the Presidency without Ohio. Especially true in the 90's and 2000's.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)No way.
No how.
Not a chance.
So you're right. They can suck it.
nilram
(2,888 posts)Just the sound of me worrying...
femrap
(13,418 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:41 PM - Edit history (1)
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Note the way they report Ohio.
At that point I said, "It's over."
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)We were having an election party at my mom's (we expect to have one again this November) and I was in the kitchen flipping through the TV. I came across FOX, and noticed Ohio was blue, but then realized it was just to show how tough Romney's path to victory would be without Ohio. Rove was discussing it, actually, on a big map and then they flipped Ohio back to toss-up and I was disappointed. But at that point, with Rove right there, FOX announced Obama had won it. I let out a huge scream ... "HE WON OHIO!" and the rest is history.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)When I lived in Michigan we used to laugh at how the farmers there were refusing to honor Daylight Saving Time.
Gal Friday
(87 posts)I wanted to see those bastards choke on their own shit.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Do you know how everyone said, "Hope and Change"?
We need to remember what we had before Obama:
(note the view count)
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Man when the West Coast came in it was OVAH!!
California, Oregon, Washington, & Hawaii with the cherry on top.
Gonna miss Keith Olbermann being there for 2012.
John Lucas
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)Oh so he says.
Like Bush said he'd win CA.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)I keep seeing reports online that Ohio voter registration this year is down among Democrats.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/09/29/many_gop_operatives_conceding_ohio.html
September 29, 2012
Many GOP Operatives Conceding Ohio
Walter Shapiro: "Many of the well-known Ohio Republicans I interviewed offered their blunt assessments only after they were guaranteed complete anonymity. That is often the Faustian bargain of political journalism in 2012: robotic talking points on the record or something resembling honesty with no names attached. The reason, though, that I am emphasizing the don't-quote-me part of the equation is that I was stunned by the vehemence of the thumbs-down-on-Mitt verdict. All but conceding the state to Obama, these Republicans were offering what may be the biggest rejection of Ohio since Philip Roth wrote Goodbye Columbus."
dawnie51
(959 posts)I'm in Ohio. Mitt has already lost here. They just aren't letting on yet. You are hard pressed to find a Romney sign here; the big ones that the party puts up on the major thoroughfares are even fewer. VERY few homes, even the ones with republican state signs, don't have a RomneyRyan sign out with them. I live in a mostly rural county 50 south of Columbus and it is really a stark contrast to elections in the past. NO ONE likes these two.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)Greater Columbus area here, with ties southward....and there would have to be a major shift for Romney to take Ohio--early voting starts Tuesday.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)dogindia
(1,345 posts)Stargleamer
(1,989 posts)I'm showing that if Romney wins in Colorado, Nevada, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, and Iowa he has 279 EV to Obama's 259. I went here to calculate: [link:http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/ecalculator#_| You would need to throw Arizona into Obama's column to get Obama up to 270 to Romney's 268. Is this what you meant or am I missing something?