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boomer55

(592 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:40 PM Feb 2016

Would Hillary have lost if she didnt win all 6 of those coin tosses?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3427637/Money-DOES-win-elections-Hillary-won-two-Iowa-precincts-coin-toss.html

Clinton supporters chose tails in Des Moines's precinct 70, and won. It was tails again for Clinton in Davenport's precinct 13 - marking another victory. In Ames precinct 2-4, Clinton won with heads.
The odds of winning six coin tosses is 64-to-1, or 1.5 per cent.
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Would Hillary have lost if she didnt win all 6 of those coin tosses? (Original Post) boomer55 Feb 2016 OP
The coin must have been issued by Goldman Sachs. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #1
ok, you win post of the day!... to fuckin' funny! (and sad at the same time). InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #7
Thank you! I have my moments. LOL Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #9
Doubtful, since the delegates awarded weren't state delegate equivalents, they were county delegates DanTex Feb 2016 #2
Yep. Still a fun story though. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #6
It appears "it" isn't settled fredamae Feb 2016 #3
The story claims the results were counted Dem2 Feb 2016 #12
I'm understanding the IA Dem Offices are Closed fredamae Feb 2016 #13
It's certainly not 'historic' Dem2 Feb 2016 #14
Sanders must have fallen for the old "Heads I win, Tails you lose trick." wildeyed Feb 2016 #4
It ended up being SIX coin tosses? Vinca Feb 2016 #5
Saw reports that if the coin flips had gone evenly (3-3), Bernie woulda won. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #8
that would be incorrect Capt. Obvious Feb 2016 #11
No. She would have won anyway. Capt. Obvious Feb 2016 #10
Could be 1/10th, could be 1/20th alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #15
No. It's fun to dream, though. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #16
No, it would not change the outcome. Here is why Bongo Prophet Feb 2016 #17

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. Doubtful, since the delegates awarded weren't state delegate equivalents, they were county delegates
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

which are worth a fraction of a state delegate.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
13. I'm understanding the IA Dem Offices are Closed
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

no one answering the phones for them to turn results in. Likely-I'm guessing due to the storm coming.
There are a ton of different stories out there, right now.

I consider it a Tie....not a "historic win" as some are calling it-at least at this juncture.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
5. It ended up being SIX coin tosses?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:50 PM
Feb 2016

Jeez . . . they should have saved themselves all that money and drawn straws a year ago. What a really dumb way to pick the next POTUS.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
8. Saw reports that if the coin flips had gone evenly (3-3), Bernie woulda won.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:01 PM
Feb 2016

Makes you wonder... hmmm.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
10. No. She would have won anyway.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think the margin would have changed either but I don't know the minutia of how 1 county delegate factors into projected state wide equivalent.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. Could be 1/10th, could be 1/20th
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:16 PM
Feb 2016

It's definitely not 1-1, which is what the people claiming coin toss victory are incorrectly assuming.

Bongo Prophet

(2,651 posts)
17. No, it would not change the outcome. Here is why
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:22 PM
Feb 2016

The coin toss was for individual delegates at precinct level, of which there are thousands.

The delegates that were decided by coin flips were delegates to the party's county conventions, of which there are thousands selected across the state from 1,681 separate precincts. They were not the statewide delegate equivalents that are reported in the final results.


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

The people here on DU trying to turn this into a meme of "Bernie would have won but for the coin toss" are either misunderstanding or trying to cause mischief - that's the nicest way I can put that.

Hope that clarifies the issue.
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